Louis Reed

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There is a chance that they will not be able to handle "pressure" (ie self-serving abuse) bc they are u18.

As a development team they need freedom to try things without fear of failure.

As I understand it parents have limited access to academy games right from the early age groups for a similar reason. Stage mums, and dads, and all that.

That's fine for academy level, but as soon as your deemed good enough for the first team football, you have to be able to cope with the pressures that come with playing in front of 18k people.
 



For those who aren't aware, Louis Reed once again represented England U18s yesterday in Moscow, earning his third cap. The FA published an article on our promising youngster:

http://www.thefa.com/news/england/d...ctory-and-his-family-almost-missing-it-090615

The article in full below...

Louis Reed was determined to drive England Under-18s to victory in Moscow, especially after the efforts made by his family to watch him live at Arena Khimki.

The Sheffield United midfielder won his third cap during the 2-0 victory on Monday, with goals from Adam Armstrong and Patrick Roberts securing success in the first of the Young Lions’ double-header in Russia.

The 17-year-old started the contest, and he was delighted to be able to perform in front of his family, although he revealed the trip to Moscow almost did not happen.

“They only just made it – they nearly missed their flight out here,” Reed told TheFA.com.

“I spoke to my mum after the game and she said she was running through Heathrow airport in bare feet trying to make the flight.

"They’d had a struggle with the transfers, the trains and shuttle services there took ages to arrive, so they had a bit of a nightmare.

“I’m delighted they did get out here though and could see me play for England again – especially as my brother was with them.

"He lives in America so it’s the first time he has watched me play in over a year. He is back for the summer and came out with my parents.

“I got a knock early on, but there was no way I was coming off after the journey he had made.”

Reflecting on the match, Reed continued: “It was brilliant. We always knew it was going to be tough physically, but once we got past the stage of competing with them we managed to get the ball down and dominate.

“At some points it was 50/50 and they had their chances, but once we got that first goal it was a big weight off our shoulders.

"After that we were able to relax a little and we kept getting the ball down and in behind them, and we just worked hard to add to our lead – which Pat did with a great strike.”

The call up for the trip to Moscow signalled the end of a fine first full campaign for the 17-year-old.

He became Sheffield United’s youngster-ever player in the Football League in April 2014, and he has gone on to establish himself in the Blades line up, making over 30 appearances this season.

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Reed won his third England cap against Russia

His performances for the Bramall Lane side earned him international recognition three months ago, and the young Yorkshireman admits the past year has been something of a whirlwind.

“Everything has come round really quick but I’ve really enjoyed it. I never expected to play as much as I have, but I have learnt a lot,” he said.

“I was nervous when I first came away with England but the lads made me feel really welcome as did the staff. That allowed me to really focus on my football.

“We have some top players from big clubs in this squad, so I was a little nervous about meeting them, but they were brilliant.

“This is my first away trip with my country but it’s just like going away with mates now, I get on with everyone really well”

And comparing the differences of the League One to the international stage, he added: “It’s a lot different.

Not so much the working hard and getting around part, you need that in any team, but the quality of football is a lot more technical, which is no disrespect to League One because it is a very tough and competitive division.

“The games are just a bit more free-flowing at international level and you get a bit more time on the ball. You have to look after the ball really well, and the players in this side have been brought up with that instilled in them.

“So it was a bit different when I first came in but I think that I have adapted quite well into it.”

Reed will be hoping to win his fourth England cap when the Young Lions take on Russia again in Moscow at 4pm on Wednesday.
 
Congratulations and well done Louis Reed.

Isn't it great when a young local lad comes through the academy, plays for the Blades then represents his country.

Up the Blades, Up the BLADEY BLADES! Well done Louis!
 
Just need back to back promotions now to keep him here long term....

Over to you Mr Adkins
 
'Young Lions' makes them sound like a group of rastafarians FFS.
 
hopefully adkins knows how to get the best out of him in a league like this

Yes, in the Under-21's learning his trade, making an occasional appearance as substitute, whilst the grown-ups get on with winning promotion.

Let's get a sense of perspective, shall we?
 
Yes, in the Under-21's learning his trade, making an occasional appearance as substitute, whilst the grown-ups get on with winning promotion.

Let's get a sense of perspective, shall we?

For one terrible moment there Pinchy I thought you were about to congratulate the lad for representing his country. A local lad who has come through the academy to U21s to first team. But sadly no...on a thread about young Reed, a Blade representing his country, it seems seems you just can't raise yourself above the usual barbed comment. Whatever makes you tick I suppose.

We will have to see what a vastly experienced manager like Adkins makes of Louis Reed. Lets hope he doesn't have the same cynical view of young local talent.

Up the Blades. Up the BLADEY BLADES! ;)
 
For one terrible moment there Pinchy I thought you were about to congratulate the lad for representing his country. A local lad who has come through the academy to U21s to first team. But sadly no...on a thread about young Reed, a Blade representing his country, it seems seems you just can't raise yourself above the usual barbed comment. Whatever makes you tick I suppose.

We will have to see what a vastly experienced manager like Adkins makes of Louis Reed. Lets hope he doesn't have the same cynical view of young local talent.

Up the Blades. Up the BLADEY BLADES! ;)
To be fair he wasn't having a go at him just pointing out he might be better off being in the under 21's more next season not that i agree with him, personally i think Adkins will find a way which gets the best out of him in the first team just so long has his development does not stall.
 
To be fair he wasn't having a go at him just pointing out he might be better off being in the under 21's more next season not that i agree with him, personally i think Adkins will find a way which gets the best out of him in the first team just so long has his development does not stall.
Oh I don't know, based on some of his other comments about him, Pinchy appears to have a pathological dislike of the lad only trumped by the shark's "hatred" of the Brody family in Jaws: The Revenge.

 
Pinchy's style may not be to everyone's taste but I can't see what he's done wrong.

It's great that Reed is playing for England at under 18 level. Despite this, on the evidence of what we saw in the second half of last season, he was not deserving of a first team place in league one. He had some good games earlier in the season but there were some very poor performances in the second half, particularly towards the end. There was also very little end product to his play.

I don't see what's so difficult to understand about this.
 



Pinchy's style may not be to everyone's taste but I can't see what he's done wrong.

It's great that Reed is playing for England at under 18 level. Despite this, on the evidence of what we saw in the second half of last season, he was not deserving of a first team place in league one. He had some good games earlier in the season but there were some very poor performances in the second half, particularly towards the end. There was also very little end product to his play.

I don't see what's so difficult to understand about this.

The description applies to pretty much everyone Rev. Playing in a bad team will ruin the lad before he's even started. The U18's is a teriffic personal milestone for him, but bears no resemblence to 46 games in League One(plus play-offs).
 
The description applies to pretty much everyone Rev. Playing in a bad team will ruin the lad before he's even started. The U18's is a teriffic personal milestone for him, but bears no resemblence to 46 games in League One(plus play-offs).

It certainly doesn't.

We have had lads of a similar age or slightly older who were worth a place - Maguire and Tonge both spring to mind - but these are exceptions.
 
Yes, in the Under-21's learning his trade, making an occasional appearance as substitute, whilst the grown-ups get on with winning promotion.

Let's get a sense of perspective, shall we?

And after we've sold him and he goes on to get 75 full England caps we had better not bring him back as we finally make the promised land in 2025, it would be far too Bladey Bladey and a terrible move?
 
Thanks for the comments and of course I don't know how Louis Reed's season will pan out or what Adkins will make of his talents.

However this thread by Enigmatic was to bring attention to his England selection and appearance which in my eyes is a really good thing to be praised.

Of course I accept he had his good and bad games last season. That's what young players do, make mistakes. But comments by pinchy such as "whilst the grown ups get on with winning promotion." Well its just plain mean and condescending on a congratulatory thread with not a 'well done' in sight to balance.

Surely that is what being a Blade is all about, supporting your local team and getting an extra boost when a local lad does well.

So I will leave it at well done Louis and I hope you have a great season.
 
Yes, in the Under-21's learning his trade, making an occasional appearance as substitute, whilst the grown-ups get on with winning promotion.

Let's get a sense of perspective, shall we?

He was involved in 32 games for us last season, which in my view is a pretty good number for someone who the previous season only appeared once. In those 32 games it's been a mixed bag, with the poorer performances happening towards the end of the season. You can view his season in two ways:

- his poorer performances highlight he isn't yet ready for regular first team action, and may never be
- his better performances highlight there's a talent there to be nurtured, and that we'll only see that potential realised if he plays in the first team

We should never just throw in any youngster in the hope they turn into some wonder talent. That's where you have ridiculous notions in the past that Ironside was going to be our new goal machine. But where we see there's something to develop in a player, that's a different situation. You don't develop players in the youth team/reserves till they meet some sort of magic ability level that makes them a first team regular - the bar obviously has to be below that before they are exposed to the first team. They are not the finished articles. Jags, Tonge and Monty weren't either when they first appeared, but were kept in the squad in spite of dodgy performances along the way - they, and the team, benefited as a result.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Adkins looks broadly at the squad this summer, sees how they are in training, and then starts Reed for our first game - as Clough did last summer. He'll be a better judge of whether it's warranted than you or I. At this stage, I'm hoping he does force his way in and continues his development in a successful team. I don't think it's particularly wrong to hope that players the club has developed over a number of years go on to achieve success.
 
It wouldn't surprise me at all if Adkins looks broadly at the squad this summer, sees how they are in training, and then starts Reed for our first game - as Clough did last summer.

If he does that, and the other midfielders don't have a physical presence, we're gonna get killed in midfield again.

If last season showed anything (well, apart from the fact you need centre backs) its that your midfielders need to be able to tackle and look after themselves, or you get run through and lose the ball repeatedly.
 
Yes, Reed's performances weren't the same towards the end of the season, but whose was?

I really like him and hope he continues to play regularly. He has evident natural talent and needs someone beside him in the middle to bring him along (Basham for example) and to stop him being bullied until he gets the right experience.

There's no doubt that he can be a great player for us.
 
If Reed and Basham are going to be in central midfield together we have to play 5 in midfield, neither of them are really suited to a 4-4-2.
 
I suggest that Paul Coutts is, subject to fitness. presently a substantially better player than Louis Reed. In due course, Reed may prove otherwise.

Our objective next season is promotion, nothing else. If Louis Reed is good enough (now, not at some uncertain future stage) to help further that objective, all well and good. If not, his development, whilst important (as is that of all our youngsters) is very much secondary.

My view is that we will need something significantly better than Louis Reed at this stage in his development (unlike the rest of you I haven't conveniently forgotten his most recent performances).

I recall recent and unanimous demand for more pace, power and athleticism next season. Those are not qualities that Louis has. Is it one rule for Bladey favourites and another for the rest? I know a word for that...

I suspect some of you have pet Tails that you allow to wag your Dogs.
 



Some of the comments here have been vicious.

I know mate, you couldn't Make Up some of this abuse. f Louis is upset with these comments his Mum could give him a Wagon Wheel, cheer him up a bit. Or even a toy Transformer. He definitely doesn't want to just be Hangin' Around in the under 21s all season.
 

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