CONFIRMED Nigel Adkins is announced as new Sheffield United Manager

[Revolution]

Gilberto started as a centre half and was limited in terms of creativity, playmaking and skill. Wenger said of him: "What I like was the fact that he kept things simple. He can play all across the midfield but the holding role just in front of the defence is what he does best." So you could say that it was a rigid role, one that made use of his excellent defensive qualities, protected the defence, helped them win the ball in good areas (vital for their superb counter attacking) and allowed the more creative players to use more of their energy going forward. There were hundreds of midfielders more skilful and creative than Gilberto available to Arsenal at the time, but his attributes was what they needed to complement the others. He helped them getting the balance just right.

When you say " the Arsenal Invincibles were everything a football team should be and a model we should aspire to" - a team in which a holding midfielder was a vital component - I suspect you either forgot about Gilberto Silva or you're not so critical of the holding midfielder after all. Surely your main point wasn't about Nick Montgomery again was it?

Apples and oranges again.

Monty was not helping to get the balance right. He couldn't pass, and his tackling ability deserted him in his later United career. The number of times he brought people down from behind or failed to pick them up (2009 playoff final?) was ridiculous. He was a passenger the majority of the time.

Scougall is not giving balance. Not scoring or assisting, getting the run around, letting the ball bounce off you and getting muscled out of it makes you a passenger.

gilberto scored 17 goals in 170 league games for Arsenal. That's 3 or 4 a year. Better than the two above can manage. Plus even if he were as one dimensional as you say, so what? They had Thierry Henry, for crying out loud.

 

[Bergen Blade]

Apples and oranges again.

Monty was not helping to get the balance right. He couldn't pass, and his tackling ability deserted him in his later United career. The number of times he brought people down from behind or failed to pick them up (2009 playoff final?) was ridiculous. He was a passenger the majority of the time.

Scougall is not giving balance. Not scoring or assisting, getting the run around, letting the ball bounce off you and getting muscled out of it makes you a passenger.

gilberto scored 17 goals in 170 league games for Arsenal. That's 3 or 4 a year. Better than the two above can manage. Plus even if he were as one dimensional as you say, so what? They had Thierry Henry, for crying out loud.

Why do you bring Stefan Scougall and Nick Montgomery into a debate of Arsenal's 2003/04 side and the value of a holding midfielder? They are not relevant.

I also think Gilberto's 17 goals were pretty good for the role he had. He was decent in the air, brave and very fit, got on the end of some crosses.

 

[Revolution]

Why do you bring Stefan Scougall and Nick Montgomery into a debate of Arsenal's 2003/04 side and the value of a holding midfielder? They are not relevant.

I also think Gilberto's 17 goals were pretty good for the role he had. He was decent in the air, brave and very fit, got on the end of some crosses.

The point I am making, which also appears to be the one Pinchy is making, is that Gilberto Silva and his 93 Brazil caps, playing in a great team, is a World away from the situation at Sheffield United.

 

[Bergen Blade]

The point I am making, which also appears to be the one Pinchy is making, is that Gilberto Silva and his 93 Brazil caps, playing in a great team, is a World away from the situation at Sheffield United.

Pinchy said: "The Bergkamp/Henry/Vieira Invincibles were everything a football team should be and a model we should aspire to." Maybe you two should try to get to an agreement on what your common opinion is?

 

[stringjunior]

Just sayin....

 

[Barney]

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Just sayin....

Looks more like it.

 

[judge]

Any idea when robinsons contract runs out anyone ?

 

[s35blade]

Nigel Akins is our man. Simple.

 

[Jehovah]

I can see Adkins pissing fans off after defeat for being too flimsy and not speaking with enough fire in his belly.

 

[Dkc]

Does anyone have a link to a video of Adkins speaking like he has enough 'fire in his belly' for the Blades job?

 

[Blade56]

FYI nothing to do with me taken off BM today, may have been posted elsewhere but not read all threads, just got in from early start

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Adkins announced tomorrow
Been speaking to someone who has a close relative that works at BDTBL. Phipps has been getting serious grief about Parkinson and more grief about delaying the announcement. All this fan pressure has brought the announcement forward. Adkins is the new manager and we will be told tomorrow. I have no reason to believe this is bull**** so fingers crossed.
Read more at http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=463&fid=221&sty=2&act=1&mid=2109998610#SQD95CG14BZcQzuV.99

 

[stringjunior]

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That should work for now

 

[baggie192]

He's still got 18 months on his Reading contract, That is hell of a lot of Compo between Him and Clough plus Clough's backroom staff

 

[Barney]

He's still got 18 months on his Reading contract, That is hell of a lot of Compo between Him and Clough plus Clough's backroom staff

How do you know that? Surely reading have to pay off his contract, not us. They sacked him.

 

[Esablade]

He's still got 18 months on his Reading contract, That is hell of a lot of Compo between Him and Clough plus Clough's backroom staff

Reading sacked Adkins.
Why would he still be under contract to them?

 

[baggie192]

A Reading fan told me he was on Gardening Leave when he asked me about whether Steve Clarke was any good

 

[Esablade]

A Reading fan told me he was on Gardening Leave when he asked me about whether Steve Clarke was any good

So he's still getting paid by Reading?

 

[baggie192]

How do you know that? Surely reading have to pay off his contract, not us. They sacked him.

Reading sacked Adkins.
Why would he still be under contract to them?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_leave

it explains it better than I can mate

 

[Barney]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_leave

it explains it better than I can mate

I've just being looking it up myself, still don't understand it though.

 

[Esablade]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_leave

it explains it better than I can mate

Thanks, I know what gardening leave is and I know that happened when he left Southampton, as he was in dispute with the Saints about monies owed..just thought Reading sacked him, straight out...

The thing with 'gardening leave' is it has to be mutual, up to a point..I guess there could have been a clause in his contract which he agreed to...

 

[Barney]

Thanks, I know what gardening leave is and I know that happened when he left Southampton, as he was in dispute with the Saints about monies owed..just thought Reading sacked him, straight out...

The thing with 'gardening leave' is it has to be mutual, up to a point...

If this was public knowledge about the gardening leave, and an extremely high payment needed to get Adkins, i doubt sky bet would have him at 2/5 odds on favourite. Could be wrong though.

 

[baggie192]

Thanks, I know what gardening leave is and I know that happened when he left Southampton, as he was in dispute with the Saints about monies owed..just thought Reading sacked him, straight out...

The thing with 'gardening leave' is it has to be mutual, up to a point...

Ok it works like this, Club A sack manager B and offer a finanical settlement of at cetain amount in the pound/euro. Manager B can either take the money and be free, or, say no get paid in full but not work the contract ends

 

[baggie192]

If this was public knowledge about the gardening leave, and an extremely high payment needed to get Adkins, i doubt sky bet would have him at 2/5 odds on favourite. Could be wrong though.

all Blades are putting on money and McCabe could could offer to buy him out of his Reading contract if he wants him bad enough

 

[Barney]

all Blades are putting on money and McCabe could could offer to buy him out of his Reading contract if he wants him bad enough

How do you mean? Give Reading the money to pay him off?

 

[Esablade]

Ok it works like this, Club A sack manager B and offer a finanical settlement of at cetain amount in the pound/euro. Manager B can either take the money and be free, or, say no get paid in full but not work the contract ends

Sorry, that's wrong.
If you're sacked your contract ends and you are owed all monies due from that contract.

There's no bargaining..ask Nigel Clough...lol..

 

[Barney]

Ok it works like this, Club A sack manager B and offer a finanical settlement of at cetain amount in the pound/euro. Manager B can either take the money and be free, or, say no get paid in full but not work the contract ends

I thought if you are sacked, you are entitled to all the money you would have got paid if you were in the job.

 

[Blade58]

wtf?

John Hughes from nowhere to 16/1 fourth fav

Edit: Now down to 12/1

 

[Bimgo Harris]

Hughes was 66/1 a few hours ago. The money for him is coming from Scotland. The people that put the money on reckon he will be announced Manager on Tuesday.
I am not convinced Hughes will be at the Lane. What i can say it is people who are well informed.

 

[Blade58]

Hughes was 66/1 a few hours ago. The money for him is coming from Scotland. The people that put the money on reckon he will be announced Manager on Tuesday.
I am not convinced Hughes will be at the Lane. What i can say it is people who are well informed.

this can't be reyt surely?

 

[Bimgo Harris]

I got a phone call asking if i knew who the new Blades Manager was. I said i had no idea. I was told it would be Hughes and they had bet him at 66/1 .
I hope it is not Hughes, but it is from well informed people