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[john ebrells leg]

I was just wondering would anyone b too upset if clough got the sack . Ive never thought he done great at derby four seasons midtable and since he left derby are one of d best teams in d championship he seems to have d worst transfer policy ever derby rejects and injury prone rejects at that i know he not one for d future but y leave jamal camball ryce go and bring in davies and switch done out wide an emergency goal keeper instead of turner would of been better suited is ther any good ex derby keeper available tho i think cloughs days are numbered tbh ..... hopefully

 

[grafikhaus]

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[Sirius]

I was just wondering would anyone b too upset if clough got the sack . Ive never thought he done great at derby four seasons midtable and since he left derby are one of d best teams in d championship he seems to have d worst transfer policy ever derby rejects and injury prone rejects at that i know he not one for d future but y leave jamal camball ryce go and bring in davies and switch done out wide an emergency goal keeper instead of turner would of been better suited is ther any good ex derby keeper available tho i think cloughs days are numbered tbh ..... hopefully

Would you mind writing proper English please? Now trot off pig.

 

[Kempy]

I was just wondering would anyone b too upset if clough got the sack . Ive never thought he done great at derby four seasons midtable and since he left derby are one of d best teams in d championship he seems to have d worst transfer policy ever derby rejects and injury prone rejects at that i know he not one for d future but y leave jamal camball ryce go and bring in davies and switch done out wide an emergency goal keeper instead of turner would of been better suited is ther any good ex derby keeper available tho i think cloughs days are numbered tbh ..... hopefully

 

[sitwell]

Would you mind writing proper English please? Now trot off pig.

To be fair , its hard typing with one hand while your banging one out ,thinking how controversial and witty you are.

 

[Pierre's PC]

I was just wondering would anyone b too upset if clough got the sack . Ive never thought he done great at derby four seasons midtable and since he left derby are one of d best teams in d championship he seems to have d worst transfer policy ever derby rejects and injury prone rejects at that i know he not one for d future but y leave jamal camball ryce go and bring in davies and switch done out wide an emergency goal keeper instead of turner would of been better suited is ther any good ex derby keeper available tho i think cloughs days are numbered tbh ..... hopefully

You provide a very compelling argument but it's always going to be KFC over Southern Fried Chicken for me.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

You provide a very compelling argument but it's always going to be KFC over Southern Fried Chicken for me.

Surely BK

 

[Pierre's PC]

Surely BK

BK over MaccyD's without a doubt but I believe the OP was discussing chicken based meals.

Unless I'm wrong and he's just a fucking idiot.

 

[SwissBlade]

I was just wondering would anyone b too upset if clough got the sack . Ive never thought he done great at derby four seasons midtable and since he left derby are one of d best teams in d championship he seems to have d worst transfer policy ever derby rejects and injury prone rejects at that i know he not one for d future but y leave jamal camball ryce go and bring in davies and switch done out wide an emergency goal keeper instead of turner would of been better suited is ther any good ex derby keeper available tho i think cloughs days are numbered tbh ..... hopefully

If the club sacked him I'd lose faith in jim et al completely. It might sound controversial but we need to stick with clough even if we don't go up. This season and next. He's a flow builder but cups prove he's got the talent, he may have to amend his principles slightly to get out of this league though.

The league games ive seen since xmas are an improvement on what I saw in sept.

He's building a young side that plays football on the counter and I for one believe in patience this season and next.

The talent is there, we just need to apply it better and get several players fit and firing

 

[Living In a Fantasy World]

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[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

If the club sacked him I'd lose faith in jim et al completely. It might sound controversial but we need to stick with clough even if we don't go up. This season and next. He's a flow builder but cups prove he's got the talent, he may have to amend his principles slightly to get out of this league though.

The league games ive seen since xmas are an improvement on what I saw in sept.

He's building a young side that plays football on the counter and I for one believe in patience this season and next.

The talent is there, we just need to apply it better and get several players fit and firing

Agree Swiss . I know we have all been disillusioned with the last couple of results and the performances this season. However we are still well in the mix and the bloke does seem to live and breathe all things blades .Yes we could sack him , but thats a easy option for the board . You do need patience to build and he is building a good side , with the players imo letting him down. He will do something about the players who flatter to deceive . We stick with Clough , as you don't know what you have , until its gone.

I think we also need to give McCabe and the board some credit for once , with the policy of holding there council and not having a knee jerk reaction attitude .



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[alcoblade]

If the club sacked him I'd lose faith in jim et al completely. It might sound controversial but we need to stick with clough even if we don't go up. This season and next. He's a flow builder but cups prove he's got the talent, he may have to amend his principles slightly to get out of this league though.

The league games ive seen since xmas are an improvement on what I saw in sept.

He's building a young side that plays football on the counter and I for one believe in patience this season and next.

The talent is there, we just need to apply it better and get several players fit and firing

I agree in the most part, but my faith in us playing a style I'll enjoy has sharply diminished. I've found this season boring in the extreme. it's right down there with Wilson and Blackwell's last season, in terms of league football.

I will grin and bare it until next Christmas. If we aren't looking like real automatic contenders by then then it's time up for me.

In the unlikely event of a contender with a track record being available, I'd consider pulling the trigger a bit sooner, should we not go up this year. And right now I can't see it.

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[SwissBlade]

I agree in the most part, but my faith in us playing a style I'll enjoy has sharply diminished. I've found this season boring in the extreme. it's right down there with Wilson and Blackwell's last season, in terms of league football.

I will grin and bare it until next Christmas. If we aren't looking like real automatic contenders by then then it's time up for me.

In the unlikely event of a contender with a track record being available, I'd consider pulling the trigger a bit sooner, should we not go up this year. And right now I can't see it.

UTB

The thing is, it's like we need to go backwards to kick on. As i said, the cups have been huge, showing potential in defending and also attacking play.

I'm not going to sit and make excuses saying things like we've played McNulty up front (a development player) instead of getting a Chris O'Grady type player as that's another issue entirely. Players haven't performed consistently enough and we've needed to get a settled side all season. It's rare we've had one.

I think that's key, get a settled side and we're halfway there.

I still think our only hope is auto's and we need to keep pushing to get those results until it's mathematically impossible. Then we build again.

Good thing is that the summer shouldn't need a huge overhaul again as that work was done in aug and jan.

Get O'Grady, get a quality centre half. Perhaps Wilson at hearts or Pearce at Leeds

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

The thing is, it's like we need to go backwards to kick on. As i said, the cups have been huge, showing potential in defending and also attacking play.

I'm not going to sit and make excuses saying things like we've played McNulty up front (a development player) instead of getting a Chris O'Grady type player as that's another issue entirely. Players haven't performed consistently enough and we've needed to get a settled side all season. It's rare we've had one.

I think that's key, get a settled side and we're halfway there.

I still think our only hope is auto's and we need to keep pushing to get those results until it's mathematically impossible. Then we build again.

Good thing is that the summer shouldn't need a huge overhaul again as that work was done in aug and jan.

Get O'Grady, get a quality centre half. Perhaps Wilson at hearts or Pearce at Leeds

The guy who would suit us would be Mark Warburton , who is available from Brentford at the end of this season . Would we be any better off , imo no , because Brenford have been building to get where they are today for 5 seasons . He would just pick up from the foundations Clough is building . Clough has hung on for certain players , which in todays ethos of immediate success , he has bucked the trend . Promotion is there for us to lose . Clough and Co are not losers.

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[alcoblade]

The thing is, it's like we need to go backwards to kick on. As i said, the cups have been huge, showing potential in defending and also attacking play.

I'm not going to sit and make excuses saying things like we've played McNulty up front (a development player) instead of getting a Chris O'Grady type player as that's another issue entirely. Players haven't performed consistently enough and we've needed to get a settled side all season. It's rare we've had one.

I think that's key, get a settled side and we're halfway there.

I still think our only hope is auto's and we need to keep pushing to get those results until it's mathematically impossible. Then we build again.

Good thing is that the summer shouldn't need a huge overhaul again as that work was done in aug and jan.

Get O'Grady, get a quality centre half. Perhaps Wilson at hearts or Pearce at Leeds

I'm not convinced we'll push on though Swizzler. I just think his style is boring. It's fine for the David and Golliath scenarios, but it's not week in week out football.

I never shared the masses faith in Clough, though I was happy to go with it. I like the man, I want it to work, but it's gone from enjoyment to endurance for me personally. And that's with us sat with probably the biggest budget by far - yet we've made so many so so signings. Done aside, there's not one I'm excited about seeing or even getting better.

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[Bladesway]

BK over MaccyD's without a doubt but I believe the OP was discussing chicken based meals.

Unless I'm wrong and he's just a fucking idiot.

Naa, double sausage and egg mcmuffin wins all.

 

[alcoblade]

The guy who would suit us would be Mark Warburton , who is available from Brentford at the end of this season . Would we be any better off , imo no , because Brenford have been building to get where they are today for 5 seasons . He would just pick up from the foundations Clough is building . Clough has hung on for certain players , which in todays ethos of immediate success , he has bucked the trend . Promotion is there for us to lose . Clough and Co are not losers.

UTB

Promotion is there for us to lose in the same way as it is for all the other playoff contenders. And the reality is that we are clearly no better than those around us, so it's a lottery now.

UTB

 

[Bladesway]

Players haven't performed consistently enough

That. Its all you need to know.

 

[Bergen Blade]

The thing is, it's like we need to go backwards to kick on. As i said, the cups have been huge, showing potential in defending and also attacking play.

I'm not going to sit and make excuses saying things like we've played McNulty up front (a development player) instead of getting a Chris O'Grady type player as that's another issue entirely. Players haven't performed consistently enough and we've needed to get a settled side all season. It's rare we've had one.

I think that's key, get a settled side and we're halfway there.

I still think our only hope is auto's and we need to keep pushing to get those results until it's mathematically impossible. Then we build again.

Good thing is that the summer shouldn't need a huge overhaul again as that work was done in aug and jan.

Get O'Grady, get a quality centre half. Perhaps Wilson at hearts or Pearce at Leeds

I'd also keep Clough even if we don't go up.

Clough has chosen the patient approach when it comes to getting his targets, opting to wait for number one or two, rather than going for number five if he's available. He may not afford doing the same this summer though. Even with signings that's been well known to the management it's been difficult for them to hit the ground running when they've joined mid season in a struggling team.

Summer planning should already take place now. Targets should be identified, including released youngsters from big Premiership clubs and players abroad. As soon as we know which division we'll be in we must try to get thing sorted as soon as possible. Let's take pre season seriously.

Bristol City had Elliott, Little, Freeman, Korey Smith, Wilbraham, Ayling in for pre season training by the first week in August and we saw how well they started.

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

The thing is, it's like we need to go backwards to kick on. As i said, the cups have been huge, showing potential in defending and also attacking play.

I'm not going to sit and make excuses saying things like we've played McNulty up front (a development player) instead of getting a Chris O'Grady type player as that's another issue entirely. Players haven't performed consistently enough and we've needed to get a settled side all season. It's rare we've had one.

I think that's key, get a settled side and we're halfway there.

I still think our only hope is auto's and we need to keep pushing to get those results until it's mathematically impossible. Then we build again.

Good thing is that the summer shouldn't need a huge overhaul again as that work was done in aug and jan.

Get O'Grady, get a quality centre half. Perhaps Wilson at hearts or Pearce at Leeds

The clubs been going backwards for years; isn't it time we saw some forward momentum?

 

[alcoblade]

I'd also keep Clough even if we don't go up.

Clough has chosen the patient approach when it comes to getting his targets, opting to wait for number one or two, rather than going for number five if he's available. He may not afford doing the same this summer though. Even with signings that's been well known to the management it's been difficult for them to hit the ground running when they've joined mid season in a struggling team.

Summer planning should already take place now. Targets should be identified, including released youngsters from big Premiership clubs and players abroad. As soon as we know which division we'll be in we must try to get thing sorted as soon as possible. Let's take pre season seriously.

Bristol City had Elliott, Little, Freeman, Korey Smith, Wilbraham, Ayling in for pre season training by the first week in August and we saw how well they started.

How much more budget would you put his way this summer though? I think he's been given enough. He should be forced to trade with what he's got.

In reality, there's a good chance that come the summer they will already be planning for the next man, just in case.

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[davidpinder]

The league games ive seen since xmas are an improvement on what I saw in sept.

The talent is there

Really? Jesus September must have been awful as I've seen most my games in the new year and especially lately we have been, well fucking dire if I'm honest.

As for the talent, I think we are a long way short of having the talent, NC has made some shocking signings. He didn't need to sign the amount of players he has plus should have gone for Coady. Quality not quantity NC went down the latter route. Sorry.

 

[SwissBlade]

The clubs been going backwards for years; isn't it time we saw some forward momentum?

Yes, totally agree. Alco mentioned it earlier. Blackwell at the end, Wilson at the end and I'll add Warnock every 2nd/ 3rd season, they dipped and in Warnock's case he was afforded the luxury of many years so we saw the pattern. Blackwell and Wilson didn't get that luxury but I'd imagine the pattern would be similar:

Get so far, step back to rebuild, push on again.

Clough can almost say that the squad he has is 80-90% his now. No excuses some say, but it needs time and tweeks. not infinite time, but sensible time, not hire em fire em. I think with the current leaders we've got the sensible heads at the top to not panic.

This division is fucked up, we make it difficult for ourselves, but if our chosen way of playing is patient football (not robson or weir crab football) then we may take longer... In fact we're taking a lot longer!

 

[SwissBlade]

How much more budget would you put his way this summer though? I think he's been given enough. He should be forced to trade with what he's got.

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Agreed. I'd perhaps go for two centre halves to replace Collins, Harry and butler plus get O'grady, but barring big injuries the squad will need trimming and we play with what he's got.

 

[alcoblade]

, but if our chosen way of playing is patient football (not robson or weir crab football) then we may take longer... In fact we're taking a lot longer!

I fear a lot of our football is very similar to Robson and Weir's crab football. Time after time we play like this for 60 minutes. Our first half football is relegation stuff, which given our size and resource is abysmal.

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[grafikhaus]

I'm not convinced we'll push on though Swizzler. I just think his style is boring. It's fine for the David and Golliath scenarios, but it's not week in week out football.
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Now that makes a lot of sense. Here's a bit more.

I've read on more than one occasion that Derby 'starved' NC of funds. Maybe he'd pissed it all away and they didn't trust him with any more?

 

[Blade56]

BK over MaccyD's without a doubt but I believe the OP was discussing chicken based meals.

Unless I'm wrong and he's just a fucking idiot.

If they sold chips and Carsberg in Gregs and started home delivery I would never leave the sofa

 

[Groucho Blade]

Why is this thread in the Rumours section?

 

[Pierre's PC]

Why is this thread in the Rumours section?

Because there isn't a "Worst Thread of 2015" section yet

 

[sitwell]

I fear a lot of our football is very similar to Robson and Weir's crab football. Time after time we play like this for 60 minutes. Our first half football is relegation stuff, which given our size and resource is abysmal.

UTB

All 3 are used to playing and managing in the top 2 divisions ,surely that's not just coincidence ,whereas Warnock and Basset were used to the lower leagues ,our style is much better suited to the higher leagues but not to Div 3. However the minute we go to hoof ,kick and punch the crowd will be on the managers back like scabies. Difficult balance ,just have to hope we can play ourselves through the play offs.