Clough updates

[Lane Ender]

Nigel Clough was brought up by one of the finest Football Club Manager ever in British football, had first hand experience of football management at close quarters as a youngster growing up, he developed into a top class player making over 400 appearances for Forest, Liverpool and Man City scoring over 140 goals, played 15 times for England Under 21 and 14 Full England Caps, he has two League Cup winners medals and played over 200 games for Burton Albion as Player Manager
I think he knows a tad more about football than you or 99.999% of people on this forum yet you have the audacity to question his actions

PS He also has a Blades win rate of over 51%

Submarine, if you are going to post, keep it to something you know about because it certainly ain't football !

Submarines been depth charged

 

[HillmortonBlade]

Submarines been depth charged

FACT... I used to work in the Black Country, next to a pork scratching factory. I know the smell of a roasted pig.

 

[Pinchy]

Gosh , we certainly have some moronic fans. Her in the real world people. He ain't all that at all.

We certainly do....

 

[ShockingBadBuy]

Yeah - but 200k rules half the football league out.

He's narrowed his market by leaving at this stage.

... when he's actually achieved feck all yet.

Different player, different age and stage of his career, and a good player as well, but something here smells off Matt Kilgallon saying that one reason he wanted to leave us was to further his England prospects. We missed him when he left, but my how we laughed.

 

[Cyprus Blade]

 

[Aston max]

Come on guys/girls I admit I was wondering if NC should stand aside but I am willing to give him the benefit !! but if he has learnt from the god that was his dad where's the strong spine he always had 3 strong ruthless players through the middle and surrounded them with ball players and did it work
maybe the bids going in are for these type of players which seems to be the standard for getting out of the division
god I will get stick for this

 

[HillmortonBlade]

god I will get stick for this [/QUOTE]

You may, but not from me. Although.... NC does not warrant comparison with his father. Unless he has sought it. My old man was well respected in his career and had I chosen to follow in his footsteps I would not have sought or expected comparisons.

For me, he's doing well, I am looking forward to the match tomorrow.

 

[Tezza1889]

If our forward line becomes ogrady and done, nobody will care because its as good as it'll get in this league..

Remember how there was no way wed sign brayford, remind me how that turned out...

Nigel usually gets his man, so chill with clough guys, id hate another year here, but playoffs are where were going at the best, measure him when our seasons over, but I've got a funny feeling you'll all love him at the end of this season...

 

[SRBlade]

1 person has a differing opinion, be it right or wrong, and they get labelled as a pig?

Surely we as forum members are better than that, if they're a pig or not I think I'd rather read an outlandish opinion than trawl through posts similar to playground jibes.

 

[Dkc]

When Clough took over at Burton in 1998 they were in the Southern Premier League Premier Division, the league below the Conference. He managed to gain promotion to the Conference in 2002.

Burton then remained in the Conference for seven years, showing gradual improvement. They finished in sixth place in 2007 and fifth place in 2008.

In January 2009, when he took over at Derby, Burton were 13 points clear at the top of the conference and you couldn’t get a bet on them to be promoted (they went on to win it). So that’s effectively two promotions (and no relegations) in a little over ten years

At Derby, his team finished 18th, 14th, 19th, 12th and 10th. They were in 14th position when he was sacked in September 2013. We all know what happened last season at SUFC

Looking at the stats, his record isn’t too impressive. But he seems a good fit for the Blades, and I’m confident he will get us out of League One this season or next. He’s still young but has been managing teams for almost 17 years. Presuming we get to the Championship, I hope we give him enough time as we gave Warnock if not more, and don’t sack him if we have one poor season.

Saying that, his brief is to get us up there. Given the resources at his disposal, if he fails to achieve promotion by the end of next season, I can’t see him lasting much longer. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that.

Barring a Weir-like plummet down the table, I think he should be given another full season even if we are still in League One.

 

[Going up]

When Clough took over at Burton in 1998 they were in the Southern Premier League Premier Division, the league below the Conference. He managed to gain promotion to the Conference in 2002.

Burton then remained in the Conference for seven years, showing gradual improvement. They finished in sixth place in 2007 and fifth place in 2008.

In January 2009, when he took over at Derby, Burton were 13 points clear at the top of the conference and you couldn’t get a bet on them to be promoted (they went on to win it). So that’s effectively two promotions (and no relegations) in a little over ten years

At Derby, his team finished 18th, 14th, 19th, 12th and 10th. They were in 14th position when he was sacked in September 2013. We all know what happened last season at SUFC

Looking at the stats, his record isn’t too impressive. But he seems a good fit for the Blades, and I’m confident he will get us out of League One this season or next. He’s still young but has been managing teams for almost 17 years. Presuming we get to the Championship, I hope we give him enough time as we gave Warnock if not more, and don’t sack him if we have one poor season.

Saying that, his brief is to get us up there. Given the resources at his disposal, if he fails to achieve promotion by the end of next season, I can’t see him lasting much longer. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that.

Barring a Weir-like plummet down the table, I think he should be given another full season even if we are still in League One.

Looking at the stats, they are not too shabby. Nigel builds his teams on sound financial footings as well as good footballing skill. This takes time to offload and recruit, but each team has seen the benefits of his principles and they are lasting principles.

Moreover, Derby had a dire team when he took over, just as with us, they could have been in a "freefall" from the shambles that went down in history as the worst PL team.

Imo, it is far easier to put the "Cherry on the Cake" and come in to manage a team that is already sound. To resurrect a team on the brink is far harder and many illustrious names have failed where NC has not.

 

[Fiery Blade]

Martin Peters was a legend but knew fuck all about football management, as we all know to our cost

Whilst Peters was an excellent player he did not have the benefit of having Brian Clough as a father and mentor
Also Nigel has had the experiences of years at the helm at Burton Albion and Derby County before coming to the Lane!

 

[YES Blade]

Whilst Peters was an excellent player he did not have the benefit of having Brian Clough as a father and mentor
Also Nigel has had the experiences of years at the helm at Burton Albion and Derby County before coming to the Lane!

Brian Clough died in 2004, so he's been dead for the majority of Nigel's managerial career! I doubt Nigel benefited much more than any of the players who played under his dad.

 

[submarine]

1 person has a differing opinion, be it right or wrong, and they get labelled as a pig?

Surely we as forum members are better than that, if they're a pig or not I think I'd rather read an outlandish opinion than trawl through posts similar to playground jibes.

Cheers for your comment , freedom of speech, I will be at Notts tonight while some that do nothing but insult me will be tucked in bed by their mummies

 

[HillmortonBlade]

Cheers for your comment , freedom of speech, I will be at Notts tonight while some that do nothing but insult me will be tucked in bed by their mummies

I suspected you were a p*g given the tone of your comments. And if you are not, then I apologise, for there is are not many things more insulting than being associated with that lot.

 

[itsinyerblood]

I suspected you were a p*g given the tone of your comments. And if you are not, then I apologise, for there is are not many things more insulting than being associated with that lot.

Thing is HillmortonBlade, submarine's loyalty to the Blades has been questioned before. Anyone who talks in such absolute terms should always be suspect if not ridiculed. If he's a Blade then he's someone who's prone to simplistic and naive assumptions, and if he's wendy he's tainted for life. Perhaps the comments he makes are down to typing with trotters? Maybe a case of repetitive trotter syndrome?

What does make me smile is the scathing nonsense he employs. Doesn't submarine consider that other managers have problems? Or is it that Clough is the only manager that makes mistakes? Demonising anyone, especially when you're not in possession of the facts, usually reveals more about the poster than their victim. I do wish that poster's like submarine would step out of their bubble of unreality and accept that they're perceptions have no grounding in the world that most of us live in.

 

[Lane Ender]

Cheers for your comment , freedom of speech, I will be at Notts tonight while some that do nothing but insult me will be tucked in bed by their mummies

Up periscope.

Fire one

 

[Davie Blade]

It was like getting the Frozen singing doll , we wanted to get one but there werent any on the shelves

We had to wait till the January sales to get one
Clough tried Amazon for proven goal scorers but they were out of stock

Other Dolls are available and other retailers too.

 

[Davie Blade]

Not a nice thread; this isn't BM.

The level of 'intolerance' given out to Sub just because someone disagrees with his viewpoint hasn't traditionally been what S24SU is about.
It is a viewpoint, that's all.

Surely we can debate things without abuse.
How long long ago was Je suis Charlie?

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Not a nice thread; this isn't BM.

The level of 'intolerance' given out to Sub just because someone disagrees with his viewpoint hasn't traditionally been what S24SU is about.
It is a viewpoint, that's all.

Surely we can debate things without abuse.
How long long ago was Je suis Charlie?

Shut it Davie Pig...!

 

[Bladepicker]

Not a nice thread; this isn't BM.

The level of 'intolerance' given out to Sub just because someone disagrees with his viewpoint hasn't traditionally been what S24SU is about.
It is a viewpoint, that's all.

Surely we can debate things without abuse.
How long long ago was Je suis Charlie?

Comparing this thread to a terrorist attack is a bit rich but letting that ride - differing opinion is fine but this guy is just a total wind up merchant and I reckon deserves all the stick his inflammatory bull shit will cause.

This was him on Ben Davies while he was out INJURED!

We will never hav a 20 goal a season player as he needs someone to put it on his head with quality deliveries, JCR hasn't got it, the only player capable of feeding a top striker is now far down Cloughs favourites list he is prob on his way out of BL

As of close of play Davies is out of favour so probs will go out on loan in Jan, we only signed him for one season so wont get anything for him, prob go on loan to Notts and help them to top six, while we wil be mid table

Ben Davies on his way out of BL driven out as club higher up than us show interest , player did not approach the club but NC throwing a paddy by dropping him , grow up NC or play him you morron

Which was all unsubstantiated nonesense. Plus the ridiculous notion that Davies is our only decent winger.

On our Scottish contingent and Clough.

NC is the tosser he only signs players from scotland, who don't know him , prem lg loans won't come to him now , I know a good CBfrom LFC that LFC want him to go to a Lg 1 club but he wonwon't come to us because of NC , let NC go to Bolton heis a morron !!

Clough why don't you go over the Border and manage a Team, think thats what you want do! ! Just f **k off there , think you want the Rangers job

Ignoring the fact Brayford has dropped a wage and a league to play for him and many players speak highly of him. Looking at his 'source' on why Davies wasn't playing above, the Liverpool player is taken with a pinch of Saxo's finest. Also buying Scottish players has been a disaster hasn't it? I mean, Bob Harris, Jamie Murphy, Stefan Scougall, Marc McNulty, Ryan Flynn have all done nothing....

Now this classic...

Its now middle of February, at long last NC brain has just engaged, if he wasn't so pig headed he should have had a CF in from day one

Submarine is either a rival fan on the wind up, an internet troll who has never kissed a girl, a complete bell end or possibly all three.

He certainly doesn't warrent any defence with his lies, idiocy and agenda.

 

[Lane Ender]

Comparing this thread to a terrorist attack is a bit rich but letting that ride - differing opinion is fine but this guy is just a total wind up merchant and I reckon deserves all the stick his inflammatory bull shit will cause.

This was him on Ben Davies while he was out INJURED!







Which was all unsubstantiated nonesense. Plus the ridiculous notion that Davies is our only decent winger.

On our Scottish contingent and Clough.





Ignoring the fact Brayford has dropped a wage and a league to play for him and many players speak highly of him. Looking at his 'source' on why Davies wasn't playing above, the Liverpool player is taken with a pinch of Saxo's finest. Also buying Scottish players has been a disaster hasn't it? I mean, Bob Harris, Jamie Murphy, Stefan Scougall, Marc McNulty, Ryan Flynn have all done nothing....

Now this classic...



Submarine is either a rival fan on the wind up, an internet troll who has never kissed a girl, a complete bell end or possibly all three.

He certainly doesn't warrent any defence with his lies, idiocy and agenda.

Subs under attack
Dive, Dive, Dive!

 

[blade too long]

Meanwhile in das boot

 

[Lane Ender]

Meanwhile in das boot

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Quality

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Cheers for your comment , freedom of speech, I will be at Notts tonight while some that do nothing but insult me will be tucked in bed by their mummies

ahha - going to Notts C? - you could always post a jpg image of your Notts C ticket which would then kill all rumours of your alleged porcine pedigree.

UTB

 

[HillmortonBlade]

And then I can make a fulsome and sincere apology for my porcine references, which I have not had to do before. Breath held.

 

[Fiery Blade]

Brian Clough died in 2004, so he's been dead for the majority of Nigel's managerial career! I doubt Nigel benefited much more than any of the players who played under his dad.

Nigel Clough was often sat on the bench next to his father from the age of seven, he also went into 'work' with his dad on a regular basis, he lived with his father up until him getting married - I am sure he benefited much more than any of the players that played under Brian Clough !
I am also sure that he also got the benefit of his father during those first formative six years of management at Burton before Old Big Head passed away !

 

[Fiery Blade]

Cheers for your comment , freedom of speech, I will be at Notts tonight while some that do nothing but insult me will be tucked in bed by their mummies

Perhaps the insults are a result of your inane rantings !
Difficult to believe that someone that dishes out the garbage that you come out with are hurt by the inference that you are not what it seems and your allegiance is more in line with HMS Rust Bucket !!

 

[submarine]

Keep them rolling in, in my way ( like it or not, in most cases on here, not ! ) I was just fustrated we didn't have a good CF, don't think I was the only one !! . NC's answer was Higdon , the rest is history ( on the subject of insults , just check bk on the disgraceful insults on this forum towards the player, is this the norm from members on this site !! ) good night to most of you , it's past your bedtime !!!

 

[Bladepicker]

Keep them rolling in, in my way ( like it or not, in most cases on here, not ! ) I was just fustrated we didn't have a good CF, don't think I was the only one !! . NC's answer was Higdon , the rest is history ( on the subject of insults , just check bk on the disgraceful insults on this forum towards the player, is this the norm from members on this site !! ) good night to most of you , it's past your bedtime !!!

What about your lies about Ben Davies? Why post those?