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....sorry for no report last night. Just moved house and with work/other stuff on, just have not had time. Sorry not good enough I know.

Overall, we were never at the races last night and were second best from start to finish.

I felt we were outmuscled and more than out worked. They pressed, closed down and got men forward at every opportunity. Davies is a dirty so and so but caused major issues for United all night who could not handle him. Equally
Gallagher was better than anything we had from an attacking sense. Preston were really up for it and wanted it more.

They should have been 2 or 3 up at the half until our late rally with goal and then Baxter chance but that was our only real spell of the game.

I thought we had got away with it big time and Clough would have them sharper, more determined and that we would start to win some 50/50's and turn them the other way. In reality we got even worse, tossed away stupid free kick after
free kick and they scored inevitably before another ridiculous set piece goal. The third was shambolic defending.
I left a few minutes before the end. I had been at work since 7am, it was freezing and I wanted my bed!!!

Team ratings - You know no one was worth more than a 6 or 6.5 on the night and some were lucky to get to a 4 or 5 (McEveley and Campbell Ryce). Murphy did a few bits and scored. Baxter showed odd glimpse but those two were outmuscled at ties. Scougall too put effort in but so often good runs saw him then just give it away at the end defeating all previous effort. The defence was really poor. Basham was poor and had his worst game since he has gone to centre back. The two full backs made errors and positionally were all over the place. Harris was culpable on second goal with a silly give away . Howard made a few saves but the header they scored from was right inside the box. Harris and then McEveley on the final goal were laughable. McEveley has been decent for us this season but gives away stupid goals due to big errors that lead to free kicks or pens. There is a reason why he has had 11 clubs before he is 30. The midfield lost most balls and in terms of attacking save for a flash or two from Murphy, we had nothing. Campbell Ryce was terrible and should have come off. He was never in the game. McNulty was isolated but every touch he had saw the ball come off him. It was just a bad night with not one player coming off with any credit really.

Of course you can say it is good in a way we are out of the cup and now have no distractions and can settle down to hopefully a relatively consistent line up (albeit got a lot of games - Saturday to midweek most weeks).
However, I will be honest and say I was desperately disappointed to go out. Man Utd at the Lane. TV coverage. Big money. Another chance of an upset. We tossed it away. Good luck to PNE. They came, bossed us and got an easily deserved win. 3-1 flattered us in reality.

More concerning is when we have faced sides like PNE (mixed in league v cup), MK, Bristol we have got somewhat bullied physically. Our little side sadly does not enough quality to compensate for lack of physical stature. As my Dad said always preferred a good big un, over a good little un but I can cope with having little players if they are really skilfull, good dribblers, goal threats etc. Reality is most of ours are not. It concerns me that we may have to beat some of these sides in the playoffs. Swindon on Saturday did not have the physical threat but in reality looked like they had a
side full of young players and talent that sadly result aside on Saturday has shown to be much better and more of a goal threat,

There does seem a feeling now that our best hope is to sneak 5th or 6th and then if Clough carries on current tactics try and sneak a 1-0 / 0 -0 to get to the final and then the same scenario. Whether it is personnel, approach or tactics, still don't think that is good enough for the biggest side in the division with probably the biggest squad now.

A long way to go though and maybe my pessimism is mis placed. Maybe our team of mini men will skilfully charge to a comfortable play off position and surge to promotion. We will see. Clough now has a big test. He has had resources and has a deep squad. There is no excuses now.
 



....sorry for no report last night. Just moved house and with work/other stuff on, just have not had time. Sorry not good enough I know.

Overall, we were never at the races last night and were second best from start to finish.

I felt we were outmuscled and more than out worked. They pressed, closed down and got men forward at every opportunity. Davies is a dirty so and so but caused major issues for United all night who could not handle him. Equally
Gallagher was better than anything we had from an attacking sense. Preston were really up for it and wanted it more.

They should have been 2 or 3 up at the half until our late rally with goal and then Baxter chance but that was our only real spell of the game.

I thought we had got away with it big time and Clough would have them sharper, more determined and that we would start to win some 50/50's and turn them the other way. In reality we got even worse, tossed away stupid free kick after
free kick and they scored inevitably before another ridiculous set piece goal. The third was shambolic defending.
I left a few minutes before the end. I had been at work since 7am, it was freezing and I wanted my bed!!!

Team ratings - You know no one was worth more than a 6 or 6.5 on the night and some were lucky to get to a 4 or 5 (McEveley and Campbell Ryce). Murphy did a few bits and scored. Baxter showed odd glimpse but those two were outmuscled at ties. Scougall too put effort in but so often good runs saw him then just give it away at the end defeating all previous effort. The defence was really poor. Basham was poor and had his worst game since he has gone to centre back. The two full backs made errors and positionally were all over the place. Harris was culpable on second goal with a silly give away . Howard made a few saves but the header they scored from was right inside the box. Harris and then McEveley on the final goal were laughable. McEveley has been decent for us this season but gives away stupid goals due to big errors that lead to free kicks or pens. There is a reason why he has had 11 clubs before he is 30. The midfield lost most balls and in terms of attacking save for a flash or two from Murphy, we had nothing. Campbell Ryce was terrible and should have come off. He was never in the game. McNulty was isolated but every touch he had saw the ball come off him. It was just a bad night with not one player coming off with any credit really.

Of course you can say it is good in a way we are out of the cup and now have no distractions and can settle down to hopefully a relatively consistent line up (albeit got a lot of games - Saturday to midweek most weeks).
However, I will be honest and say I was desperately disappointed to go out. Man Utd at the Lane. TV coverage. Big money. Another chance of an upset. We tossed it away. Good luck to PNE. They came, bossed us and got an easily deserved win. 3-1 flattered us in reality.

More concerning is when we have faced sides like PNE (mixed in league v cup), MK, Bristol we have got somewhat bullied physically. Our little side sadly does not enough quality to compensate for lack of physical stature. As my Dad said always preferred a good big un, over a good little un but I can cope with having little players if they are really skilfull, good dribblers, goal threats etc. Reality is most of ours are not. It concerns me that we may have to beat some of these sides in the playoffs. Swindon on Saturday did not have the physical threat but in reality looked like they had a
side full of young players and talent that sadly result aside on Saturday has shown to be much better and more of a goal threat,

There does seem a feeling now that our best hope is to sneak 5th or 6th and then if Clough carries on current tactics try and sneak a 1-0 / 0 -0 to get to the final and then the same scenario. Whether it is personnel, approach or tactics, still don't think that is good enough for the biggest side in the division with probably the biggest squad now.

A long way to go though and maybe my pessimism is mis placed. Maybe our team of mini men will skilfully charge to a comfortable play off position and surge to promotion. We will see. Clough now has a big test. He has had resources and has a deep squad. There is no excuses now.

We are not playing a safe game plan but a dangerous game plan. Ok we lost a cup match , so what , but it was the manner of the performance that yet again is worrying and concerning . The playoffs , although there is great optimism from the majority of blades fans that we will be in them , are not a nailed on certainty . We have no points buffer , like some of the teams above us.

We will find out soon enough at the end of the season , if Mr Clough is the right man , to lead us to the promise land. I think he is , at least i hope he is.

UTB
 
Well after being 1-0 up at half time i'm gutted we got stuffed in the second half. It might help us in the long run in terms of less games but still a really flat feeling after our recent cup heroics.
 
....sorry for no report last night. Just moved house and with work/other stuff on, just have not had time. Sorry not good enough I know.

Overall, we were never at the races last night and were second best from start to finish.

I felt we were outmuscled and more than out worked. They pressed, closed down and got men forward at every opportunity. Davies is a dirty so and so but caused major issues for United all night who could not handle him. Equally
Gallagher was better than anything we had from an attacking sense. Preston were really up for it and wanted it more.

They should have been 2 or 3 up at the half until our late rally with goal and then Baxter chance but that was our only real spell of the game.

I thought we had got away with it big time and Clough would have them sharper, more determined and that we would start to win some 50/50's and turn them the other way. In reality we got even worse, tossed away stupid free kick after
free kick and they scored inevitably before another ridiculous set piece goal. The third was shambolic defending.
I left a few minutes before the end. I had been at work since 7am, it was freezing and I wanted my bed!!!

Team ratings - You know no one was worth more than a 6 or 6.5 on the night and some were lucky to get to a 4 or 5 (McEveley and Campbell Ryce). Murphy did a few bits and scored. Baxter showed odd glimpse but those two were outmuscled at ties. Scougall too put effort in but so often good runs saw him then just give it away at the end defeating all previous effort. The defence was really poor. Basham was poor and had his worst game since he has gone to centre back. The two full backs made errors and positionally were all over the place. Harris was culpable on second goal with a silly give away . Howard made a few saves but the header they scored from was right inside the box. Harris and then McEveley on the final goal were laughable. McEveley has been decent for us this season but gives away stupid goals due to big errors that lead to free kicks or pens. There is a reason why he has had 11 clubs before he is 30. The midfield lost most balls and in terms of attacking save for a flash or two from Murphy, we had nothing. Campbell Ryce was terrible and should have come off. He was never in the game. McNulty was isolated but every touch he had saw the ball come off him. It was just a bad night with not one player coming off with any credit really.

Of course you can say it is good in a way we are out of the cup and now have no distractions and can settle down to hopefully a relatively consistent line up (albeit got a lot of games - Saturday to midweek most weeks).
However, I will be honest and say I was desperately disappointed to go out. Man Utd at the Lane. TV coverage. Big money. Another chance of an upset. We tossed it away. Good luck to PNE. They came, bossed us and got an easily deserved win. 3-1 flattered us in reality.

More concerning is when we have faced sides like PNE (mixed in league v cup), MK, Bristol we have got somewhat bullied physically. Our little side sadly does not enough quality to compensate for lack of physical stature. As my Dad said always preferred a good big un, over a good little un but I can cope with having little players if they are really skilfull, good dribblers, goal threats etc. Reality is most of ours are not. It concerns me that we may have to beat some of these sides in the playoffs. Swindon on Saturday did not have the physical threat but in reality looked like they had a
side full of young players and talent that sadly result aside on Saturday has shown to be much better and more of a goal threat,

There does seem a feeling now that our best hope is to sneak 5th or 6th and then if Clough carries on current tactics try and sneak a 1-0 / 0 -0 to get to the final and then the same scenario. Whether it is personnel, approach or tactics, still don't think that is good enough for the biggest side in the division with probably the biggest squad now.

A long way to go though and maybe my pessimism is mis placed. Maybe our team of mini men will skilfully charge to a comfortable play off position and surge to promotion. We will see. Clough now has a big test. He has had resources and has a deep squad. There is no excuses now.



This is a compliment Deadbat - your first ever grammatical error " there is no excuses now".

Your pessimism arrived before mine. Mine arrived before a few others. How we would hate to be proved right. IMO player recruitment is "amateurish". Management is one dimensional. We are ending up with two mid-table teams for the price of one. No game-changers. It's all down to Done or the game is up, done and dusted. No pressure Mr.Done!! Good luck!
 
I'm sure most would be happy if we played like Barcelona every week, but the reality is that in L1 there are teams like Preston who play a much more physical game. If we're going to get out of this league we have to either match them physically or impose our game on them. Sadly last night we did neither.
 
....sorry for no report last night. Just moved house and with work/other stuff on, just have not had time. Sorry not good enough I know.

Overall, we were never at the races last night and were second best from start to finish.

I felt we were outmuscled and more than out worked. They pressed, closed down and got men forward at every opportunity. Davies is a dirty so and so but caused major issues for United all night who could not handle him. Equally
Gallagher was better than anything we had from an attacking sense. Preston were really up for it and wanted it more.

They should have been 2 or 3 up at the half until our late rally with goal and then Baxter chance but that was our only real spell of the game.

I thought we had got away with it big time and Clough would have them sharper, more determined and that we would start to win some 50/50's and turn them the other way. In reality we got even worse, tossed away stupid free kick after
free kick and they scored inevitably before another ridiculous set piece goal. The third was shambolic defending.
I left a few minutes before the end. I had been at work since 7am, it was freezing and I wanted my bed!!!

Team ratings - You know no one was worth more than a 6 or 6.5 on the night and some were lucky to get to a 4 or 5 (McEveley and Campbell Ryce). Murphy did a few bits and scored. Baxter showed odd glimpse but those two were outmuscled at ties. Scougall too put effort in but so often good runs saw him then just give it away at the end defeating all previous effort. The defence was really poor. Basham was poor and had his worst game since he has gone to centre back. The two full backs made errors and positionally were all over the place. Harris was culpable on second goal with a silly give away . Howard made a few saves but the header they scored from was right inside the box. Harris and then McEveley on the final goal were laughable. McEveley has been decent for us this season but gives away stupid goals due to big errors that lead to free kicks or pens. There is a reason why he has had 11 clubs before he is 30. The midfield lost most balls and in terms of attacking save for a flash or two from Murphy, we had nothing. Campbell Ryce was terrible and should have come off. He was never in the game. McNulty was isolated but every touch he had saw the ball come off him. It was just a bad night with not one player coming off with any credit really.

Of course you can say it is good in a way we are out of the cup and now have no distractions and can settle down to hopefully a relatively consistent line up (albeit got a lot of games - Saturday to midweek most weeks).
However, I will be honest and say I was desperately disappointed to go out. Man Utd at the Lane. TV coverage. Big money. Another chance of an upset. We tossed it away. Good luck to PNE. They came, bossed us and got an easily deserved win. 3-1 flattered us in reality.

More concerning is when we have faced sides like PNE (mixed in league v cup), MK, Bristol we have got somewhat bullied physically. Our little side sadly does not enough quality to compensate for lack of physical stature. As my Dad said always preferred a good big un, over a good little un but I can cope with having little players if they are really skilfull, good dribblers, goal threats etc. Reality is most of ours are not. It concerns me that we may have to beat some of these sides in the playoffs. Swindon on Saturday did not have the physical threat but in reality looked like they had a
side full of young players and talent that sadly result aside on Saturday has shown to be much better and more of a goal threat,

There does seem a feeling now that our best hope is to sneak 5th or 6th and then if Clough carries on current tactics try and sneak a 1-0 / 0 -0 to get to the final and then the same scenario. Whether it is personnel, approach or tactics, still don't think that is good enough for the biggest side in the division with probably the biggest squad now.

A long way to go though and maybe my pessimism is mis placed. Maybe our team of mini men will skilfully charge to a comfortable play off position and surge to promotion. We will see. Clough now has a big test. He has had resources and has a deep squad. There is no excuses now.

I don't know nowt about managing a football club , just a blade . My wish-

Wish Davies were playing for us . He would be the minder for the young uns and midgets.

UTB
 
I'm sure most would be happy if we played like Barcelona every week, but the reality is that in L1 there are teams like Preston who play a much more physical game. If we're going to get out of this league we have to either match them physically or impose our game on them. Sadly last night we did neither.
spot on berksblade doasnt take much for negatives to crepe in its all to play for and nobody will know more than cloughy after
being backed by the board it must be at least play offs or he will be under real pressure i have confidence in him.
 
The arrogance and complacency of our premier league opposition was what saw us beat so many of them. Arrogant managers sending out depleted teams, complacent millionaires thinking it would be a stroll in the park and significantly underestimating us.

So wasn't it the case that United bigged up by everyone, BBC (West London variety) mostly, started to believe the hype, a representative 11 having drawn easily enough at Deepdale; are we sure we weren't as complacent as QPR, Saints or even Spurs had been at White Hart Lane......... Adebayor !.. I ask you?

It must be hard putting on a show in front of 13 000, you can't take it as seriously as you did for 31 000 the previous week now can you?

Its a genuine question, after all I couldn't be arsed coming on a freezing night all the way from Doncaster, after all I'm arrogant like that.....
 
We do have strikers Done,Higdon, Mcnulty,Diego, Murphy,

No matter what Clough thinks strikers work better in pairs all the above can score but not all alone up front.
 

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