oh good...

[itsinyerblood]

So true but the reasons are probably because she has done more than just organize a petition against Evans. She is a radical feminist so she tends to have an issue with most people in life especially denying transsexuals their rights in society. So from what I have read she comes in for a fair amount of abuse from many people. She apparently is a survivor of domestic abuse that will her only reason for keeping herself anonymous.

Interesting points Bladesman, I'm not familiar with Ms Hatchet's past, and I'm sorry she's been a victim of domestic abuse (a broad term this, does it mean physical violence, mental violence, or something else?), but by taking on the mantle of flag waver for those who have suffered the same, her argument is becoming increasingly shrill. The point you highlight concerning transsexual their rights is both interesting and telling. Maybe applying double standards is the way she functions, and is blind to this fact just as long as she can be heard.

She must be receiving a serious buzz that's come her way as a result of raising the issue concerning Evans. No doubt she's surrounded by a few like-minded, belligerent types who act as her support fan club. None of which makes her anonymity defensible. In maintaining her mask, how could she ever be depended upon to act as someone who supports this view of the world? Wearing a hood? Hiding behind Skype? So all we have is her word/opinion, and never know who is saying any of this? The next time I hear a voice from the shadows (not something that's commonplace I should add) I'll grab hold of the culprit and tell them there's someone in Harrogate who shares this need for disguise.

 

[Darren]

I don't know why 'Jean Hatchet' isn't called out on her use of anonymity? For all I know she could be the 'victim' herself?
Her argument for disguising her real identity may be to prevent contact being made by those who oppose her view, but to have created such a theatrical mask to hide behind, especially when Evans cannot hide, seems cowardly. This woman, assuming she is a woman, has all the benefits and none of the responsibility attached to orchestrating such a personal attack. She can hide behind her nom de guerre with self-righteous indignation, continuing her attack on Evans as if she were the victim herself. What she cannot do is to act from a position of moral high ground. Whoever Ms 'Hatchett' is, whatever reality she exists in, her unwillingness to come forth and reveal her true self undermines the stance which gives her the freedom to behave and act in whatever manner she chooses, something she hopes to deny Evans.

Is your real name Itsinyerblood then?

 

[Highbury_Blade]

Is your real name Itsinyerblood then?

He's not going on radio/other media with that name though is he?

 

[Darren]

He's not going on radio/other media with that name though is he?

Does that matter? It's up to the media outlets if they invite her on under a pseduonym.

It just seems to me slightly hypocritical to criticise a person for having a public opinion on the Evans issue from behind a pseudonym whilst you yourself having a public opinion on the Evans issue from behind a pseudonym.

Only difference is that she has been spectaculary more successful in publicising her opinion than the pro Evans camp have in publicising theirs.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

Does that matter? It's up to the media outlets if they invite her on under a pseduonym.

It just seems to me slightly hypocritical to criticise a person for having a public opinion on the Evans issue from behind a pseudonym whilst you yourself having a public opinion on the Evans issue from behind a pseudonym.

Only difference is that she has been spectaculary more successful in publicising her opinion than the pro Evans camp have in publicising theirs.

Fair point.

On that latter point, the growth in people signing that petition has really accelerated this week. I wouldn't be surprised if it clears 200,000 by the time he's released.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Is your real name Itsinyerblood then?

It's Alf Billingham, Darren, all you had to do was ask. The difference being that I don't have a problem with anyone knowing.

 

[Darren]

It's Alf Billingham, Darren, all you had to do was ask. The difference being that I don't have a problem with anyone knowing.

That's a very Ripping Yarns type name

I suppose the difference is you are putting your head above the parapet somewhat less than she is - she does get some quite abusive messages (though she does provoke them).

Anyway, the validity or otherwise of her views does not depend on her identity.

 

[Worksop II]

I think Ched should be able to continue his career, preferably when fit, with us

But on the singing, Orient today were singing

"You're just a club full of Rapists"

It was nice and clear in the strategically positioned Family Enclosure

 

[itsinyerblood]

That's a very Ripping Yarns type name

I suppose the difference is you are putting your head above the parapet somewhat less than she is - she does get some quite abusive messages (though she does provoke them).

Anyway, the validity or otherwise of her views does not depend on her identity.

I agree that her pseudonym has no bearing on her opinion, but Evans can't hide, she's able to. Of course receiving abusive or threatening messages isn't acceptable even if her soapbox posturing makes her seem an easy target. So perhaps the hypocrisy you mentioned should be applied to her.

Having read your thoughts on Evans and any potential return to SUFC I tend to agree with you view. If both parties wish to renew the relationship then the very least he should do is, as you've advised, write a mea culpa that's clearly sincere, not a concoction of someone else's mind. CE doesn't have to admit to rape, just an admission that he was spectacularly foolish, and in a matter of minutes his life took a turn that will stay with him forever.

As for myself, yes, I suppose it does have a Biggles ring about it, or maybe that should be Harry Fowler (for the younger element, don't bother asking). All you have to do is google my name and somewhere, hidden in the internet ether, is a tale of my heroics on the 97 from Totley.

 

[Northyorksblade]

I think Ched should be able to continue his career, preferably when fit, with us

But on the singing, Orient today were singing

"You're just a club full of Rapists"

It was nice and clear in the strategically positioned Family Enclosure

Ahhh, that's what it was. Couldn't make it out.

 

[Bladesman]

That's a very Ripping Yarns type name

I suppose the difference is you are putting your head above the parapet somewhat less than she is - she does get some quite abusive messages (though she does provoke them).

Anyway, the validity or otherwise of her views does not depend on her identity.

True although most people who genuinely believe what they say usually don't need to hide behind a pseudonym. It's sniping from the sidelines anonymously but yet somehow getting the media onside that irks me. Building an anonymous media profile on a something that may never actually happen.

It's made worse that she does seem to be ignoring the question what if he signs for someone else. It's a petition specifically targeted at us rather than the FA or FIFA who could prevent his return to football altogether.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

It's made worse that she does seem to be ignoring the question what if he signs for someone else. It's a petition specifically targeted at us rather than the FA or FIFA who could prevent his return to football altogether.

Could they?

 

[Bladesman]

Could they?

I am sure they have the power to deny him the ability to sign for any professional club?

Although if they did then people would be asking them to stop this guy playing: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24064975

 

[itsinyerblood]

I am sure they have the power to deny him the ability to sign for any professional club?

Although if they did then people would be asking them to stop this guy playing: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24064975

I suspect the FA would come up against restraint of trade if they attempted to stop him playing football