Player Suggestion Souttar played and scored last night

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We should now be banging the door down for HS.

We just should.

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Agree entirely. After losing our last ounce of creativity, we should be replacing it with * checks notes * a big lump of a defender who has a questionable injury record and would suck up every penny of the budget.

Apologies for the sarcasm, but I want us to go nowhere near HS today. If we get Kitching that will be ample and we should be getting a couple for the top end of the pitch.
 
To be clear on my last post.

Mcg (who the gaffer doesn’t rate) out.
HS (who he genuinely does) in.

I’m not dismissing our needs in attack and have stated as much times many.

The don’t have to be mutually exclusive and reinforcements should never be overruled.

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Why? We’ve signed enough defensive players. Where’s the attacking replacements?
depends if mcguinness is sold today and if he is i think theres a chance both souttar and kitching will come in but i do agree with you we also need a left winger and striker to come in if cannon is also sold
 
To be clear on my last post.

Mcg (who the gaffer doesn’t rate) out.
HS (who he genuinely does) in.

I’m not dismissing our needs in attack and have stated as much times many.

The don’t have to be mutually exclusive and reinforcements should never be overruled.

UTB

All very well, but if Kitching is coming in and Wilder wants to play 4 at the back (as I think he does), then Tanganga and Kitching will be first choice and we simply don't need HS. If it's 3 at the back, I think MM is fine for the middle as he has cover from either side. We should be then looking at someone like Webster as backup along with Baptiste.

I simply cannot see the point in wasting so much money on HS.
 
All very well, but if Kitching is coming in and Wilder wants to play 4 at the back (as I think he does), then Tanganga and Kitching will be first choice and we simply don't need HS. If it's 3 at the back, I think MM is fine for the middle as he has cover from either side. We should be then looking at someone like Webster as backup along with Baptiste.

I simply cannot see the point in wasting so much money on HS.
Has been the gaffers #1 target all summer.

Yes it’s dragged on.

HS representatives were apparently at the Lane in May to get it all agreed

Leicester moved the goalposts several times it would seem and complicated the deal.

HS wants Utd.

Wilder wants HS.

£10m is too much - agreed. The club are seemingly playing a game of chicken on the fee somewhat relying on Leicester lowering their demands.

£5m is a steal.

Time will tell !!

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Has been the gaffers #1 target all summer.

Yes it’s dragged on.

HS representatives were apparently at the Lane in May to get it all agreed

Leicester moved the goalposts several times it would seem and complicated the deal.

HS wants Utd.

Wilder wants HS.

£10m is too much - agreed. The club are seemingly playing a game of chicken on the fee somewhat relying on Leicester lowering their demands.

£5m is a steal.

Time will tell !!

UTB
still think the souttar deal is a possibility especially if we sell o'hare and cannon today
 



Honestly? If we use the COH or Cannon money for Souttar, we deserve to go down.

Why the fuck are we even considerinf replacing promising offensive assets with more defenders?
maybe because weve only 3 centre backs on the books a raw young kid one that isnt championship standard and tanganga we need at least one to come in which looks like kitching but if mcguinness is sold we will need 2 yes we need attacking options thats a gimme but whats the point scoring 4 if we concede 5 ?
 
maybe because weve only 3 centre backs on the books a raw young kid one that isnt championship standard and tanganga we need at least one to come in which looks like kitching but if mcguinness is sold we will need 2 yes we need attacking options thats a gimme but whats the point scoring 4 if we concede 5 ?
Maybe don't sell McGuinness, who's been our best CB? Maybe don't play one of our CBs at RB when Doherty is right there? Maybe try and get some use out of Nils instead of just letting him rot?

And what's the point in scoring 4? I'm surprised we even managed 2 on Saturday, how are we gonna do that with no attacking players?
 
Maybe don't sell McGuinness, who's been our best CB? Maybe don't play one of our CBs at RB when Doherty is right there? Maybe try and get some use out of Nils instead of just letting him rot?

And what's the point in scoring 4? I'm surprised we even managed 2 on Saturday, how are we gonna do that with no attacking players?
wilder has already stated that mcguinness isnt in his plans i expect him to go if an offer comes in today if not he stays and we just bring kitching in its one or the other option imo just dont think the souttar deal is dead in the water but seing as he hasnt gone anywhere leicester would have to accept our terms plus with wilder in charge theres much more likely to be 1 - 0 wins there his tactics
 
wilder has already stated that mcguinness isnt in his plans
He's then also said he's earned his trust and is staying
i expect him to go if an offer comes in today if not he stays and we just bring kitching in its one or the other option imo
No, it isn't. We need cover for both CBs, and he refuses to use Nils so we need McGuinness
just dont think the souttar deal is dead in the water
It should be. Any money needs to go on creative players. We don't need more defenders.
but seing as he hasnt gone anywhere leicester would have to accept our terms plus with wilder in charge theres much more likely to be 1 - 0 wins there his tactics
We haven't won a game 1-0 this season. We now don't even have the creative players to score 1. Explain to me how adding another CB sorts this
 
He's then also said he's earned his trust and is staying

No, it isn't. We need cover for both CBs, and he refuses to use Nils so we need McGuinness

It should be. Any money needs to go on creative players. We don't need more defenders.

We haven't won a game 1-0 this season. We now don't even have the creative players to score 1. Explain to me how adding another CB sorts this
never said another centre back would sort this if were keeping mcguinness just adding kitching will do but dont be suprised if mcguinness goes wilder is a bit of a bluffer personally i would like to see cleary archer and an attacking midfielder come in so do agree with you on that one
 
never said another centre back would sort this if were keeping mcguinness just adding kitching will do
we're keeping McGuinness
but dont be suprised if mcguinness goes wilder is a bit of a bluffer personally
He's literally said we're keeping him.
i would like to see cleary archer and an attacking midfielder come in so do agree with you on that one
Archer is going to France (and why the fuck would you want him back?) And we can't afford Cleary. Teams with actual bids already rejected
 
we're keeping McGuinness

He's literally said we're keeping him.

Archer is going to France (and why the fuck would you want him back?) And we can't afford Cleary. Teams with actual bids already rejected
if we are keeping him he will be a bench player if kitching signs only way mcguinness gets in starting line up is if we revert to a back 3 and actually dont think thats the worst idea all about opinions isnt it i rate archer you obviously dont leave it at that
 
Have there been any rumours about Tanganga?
Not yet, I did the usual putting 2+2=5 sum that most of the 14y/o Twitter fan base maths after seeing Taylor Bellis getting sold to Villa and the potential knock-on effect, etc. Not sure why I thought WH, maybe Saints I was actually thinking. Note, I'm not a 14y/o fan base, instead sadly a veteran of times like these.
 
Not yet, I did the usual putting 2+2=5 sum that most of the 14y/o Twitter fan base maths after seeing Taylor Bellis getting sold to Villa and the potential knock-on effect, etc. Not sure why I thought WH, maybe Saints I was actually thinking. Note, I'm not a 14y/o fan base, instead sadly a veteran of times like these.
Southampton won't want him, they got that Schlotterbeck as a replacement and they already think hes the 2nd coming
 



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