Outgoing? Hamer

[TomTheBlade1889]

Wilder's just suggested Gus wants to leave and there's no contract negotiations between us and him. Owners are considering a bid from Coventry and Gus has been speaking with Lampard.

 

[Keen Blade]

I Hear you my issue is how much of the £5m would be reinvested in new players. Hamer goes how do we replace with better or on par?

We don't - so stop worrying about that aspect.
But we might get a decent CB.

 

[Kona]

I think the plan from the prince and now the new owners is getting to the PL to attract new investors or a sale.
Which in both instances mean more cash injections and potentially more infrastructure improvements too. Gotta get there first and stay.

I'm not saying I want us to be like a Wrexham with their TV stuff. But you look at what they've done actually on the pitch and improvements to their facilities and it's incredibly fast.

But to not be punished by the spending rules they are managing to get some good investors in there on top of the main two.

It's not the only way to do it but can we take any ideas off them? Not a TV show that's not what I mean but more so investments?

But then again the exposure on Disney is probably one reason they get these investors....

I think that’s the aspiration for several clubs but my question is - what happens when it doesn’t work out and what are we doing to change our luck?

I don’t see us making many, if any, progressive improvements to the structure or drive of the club.

Our recruitment is slow and appears to be limited to the same names and attributes. Fitness levels have been below par for several seasons, and we constantly struggle with injuries. We’ve needed a refresh of the recruitment team and the fitness staff for some time, in my opinion.

Off the field, it feels like a similar story. Lots of words but little delivery. I may be being unfair here but it’s almost like we don’t know how to be successful. Over the last 10 years we’ve had opportunities but didn’t take them or know what to do with when we get there.

In terms of the current situation, there’s still time to bring players in. However, Wilder said we wouldn’t be in this position and yet here we are again. I’m not necessarily blaming him, as there are many people in the chain to ensure we’re prepared, but he is the face of the club and not doing what you say you’re going to do erodes credibility.

I naively thought that having American owners would address some of this, but it’s just been more of the same.

At some point we need to break the mould or rip off the plaster… whatever cliche fits (couldn’t decide )

 

[Keen Blade]

Whilst we need a winger to create and get beyond people, Hamer is the only player currently on our books who can see things and create chances and space with a long pass.

Coventry are throwing us a £ lifeline if they give us money for him.
No other club would , not at this stage of his contract.
He's yet another substantial investment which will pay us feckin ZERO at the end of his contract ,
Unless Coventry save our bacon.
Brewster
Mousset
McBurnie
Invest £50m , you may not get all your money back ,
In fact , you may as well set fire to it

 

[HeySethUTB]

This squad is no better than last years anyway, if Hamer doesn’t want to stay then sell him. It won’t make a difference to the outcome of games, everyone can see creativity is going to be a problem. If so, the book stops with wilders ability to overcome it.

I’m so f**ked off with the way this club does transfer business, throwing any money around on dross most of the time and slow to make any deals stick.

The contrast between this year and what we did the last time we were in the premier league, selling our best attacking players and replacing them with untested loanees/no one at all, is frightening and borderline psychotic.

 

[ekke287]

What’s this presser from Wilder, just seen on Reddit.

 

[Keen Blade]

Coventry are throwing us a £ lifeline if they give us money for him.
No other club would , not at this stage of his contract.
He's yet another substantial investment which will pay us feckin ZERO at the end of his contract ,
Unless Coventry save our bacon.
Brewster
Mousset
McBurnie
Invest £50m , you may not get all your money back ,
In fact , you may as well set fire to it

And we just keep on doing it ,
Another £10m on Cannon ...
We don't have a deathwish ,
But we do appear to have an Admin wish.
And that's just the strikers.
Anyway , sorry to disappoint , I'll crawl away now and try to think of nice positive things

 

[Bladesman]

Wilder's just suggested Gus wants to leave and there's no contract negotiations between us and him. Owners are considering a bid from Coventry and Gus has been speaking with Lampard.

It still needs to the be the right price.

 

[Shawy24]

What’s this presser from Wilder, just seen on Reddit.

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But Chris. It seems the better players, you know, the ones with a bit of flair and skill, don’t want to play for you.

 

[Lens instep catch]

You should have been here in 97 ...
Deane & fjortoft .....
Not much is going to eclipse that

Or 67 Jones and Birchenall

 

[NerdyBlade]

But Chris. It seems the better players, you know, the ones with a bit of flair and skill, don’t want to play for you.

Because, as successful as he was, he's become a tactical dinosaur and we don't utilise those sorts of players to their full potential

 

[Uganda Blade]

I Hear you my issue is how much of the £5m would be reinvested in new players. Hamer goes how do we replace with better or on par?

Maybe we replace with different, as opposed to better or the same?
Different a la Lewis Dobbin (and yes, I know he's gone elsewhere), perhaps?

 

[Down the Channels]

Hamer money = Souttar money. The quicker they both get done the better.
Then we have 3 more loan spaces to fill? At the end of the window there might be some smaller deals in and out too.
I think that is the best I am hoping for now.

 

[NerdyBlade]

Hamer money = Souttar money. The quicker they both get done the better.
Then we have 3 more loan spaces to fill? At the end of the window there might be some smaller deals in and out too.
I think that is the best I am hoping for now.

How do we replace Hamer though? We already need cover on the LW, we would then need cover and a starter

BBD? A random prem youth?

Smacks of the Ndiaye and Berge sales close to the start of the prem season this

 

[Roygbiv]

What’s this presser from Wilder, just seen on Reddit.

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I've just watched it and it might be the most depressing press conference I've seen since Budd Dwyer pulled a gun out and shot himself

 

[Bookers Mullet]

How do we replace Hamer though? We already need cover on the LW, we would then need cover and a starter

BBD? A random prem youth?

Smacks of the Ndiaye and Berge sales close to the start of the prem season this

It'll be BBD, and Wilder will be singing his name from the rooftops as if we'd just signed Yamal

 

[NerdyBlade]

It'll be BBD, and Wilder will be singing his name from the rooftops as if we'd just signed Yamal

Well at least we had a few glory years

 

[S64 Blade]

We seem to continually make a rod for our back.

Arguably our 3 best players of the last 5 years have left for relative peanuts as we’ve allowed their contracts to run down to less than a year, selling them all on the dawn of a new season with no replacements in place.

This pre-season really has been pretty similar to the dreadful one we had before our last PL embarrassment.

 

[CPB]

Just a matter of time.

What fee can we get? Will this give us the cash to get Souttar?

 

[Thrice]

BBD as Hamer replacement would be very underwhelming to say the least. His first stint seems like nothing more than a purple patch in retrospect and his second stint was completely forgettable.

 

[AWetFlannel]

But Chris. It seems the better players, you know, the ones with a bit of flair and skill, don’t want to play for you.

I'm sure Gus would want to leave whoever the manager was, he's too good for us and is in a position to pick up one more big contract before he retires. Why would he sign a new contract at a club that looks like midtable fodder?

 

[CPB]

We seem to continually make a rod for our back.

Arguably our 3 best players of the last 5 years have left for relative peanuts as we’ve allowed their contracts to run down to less than a year, selling them all on the dawn of a new season with no replacements in place.

This pre-season really has been pretty similar to the dreadful one we had before our last PL embarrassment.

Indeed in terms of selling 3 of our best players for less than their worth.

I'd argue it was more frustrating losing Berge and N'Diaye as we had just been promoted but Berge had been constantly told be his national boss to leave and saw the lack of activity coming in. And N'Diaye very, very nearly signed a new deal only for Marseille to give him the ultimatum of "Now or never".

With Hamer in this instance he's at least played 2 seasons back down with us. And so it makes alot of sense from his point of view.

 

[Valley Blade]

We seem to continually make a rod for our back.

Arguably our 3 best players of the last 5 years have left for relative peanuts as we’ve allowed their contracts to run down to less than a year, selling them all on the dawn of a new season with no replacements in place.

This pre-season really has been pretty similar to the dreadful one we had before our last PL embarrassment.

How do you get players to sign contracts when they don't want to? It happens to far bigger clubs than United.

 

[Bladesman]

I've just watched it and it might be the most depressing press conference I've seen since Budd Dwyer pulled a gun out and shot himself

Was it that bad?

 

[KMC-1889]

That press conference reeks of a man whose finding out the truth about himself.

 

[NerdyBlade]

That press conference reeks of a man whose finding out the truth about himself.

Can I just ask - when he gets sacked, what's next for him? Because since his first successful spell here, he hasn't achieved anything here or anywhere else?

 

[Kona]

I've just watched it and it might be the most depressing press conference I've seen since Budd Dwyer pulled a gun out and shot himself

Is it only on SUTV or can I watch it elsewhere?

 

[Jon P]

It still needs to the be the right price.

Paid £15m for him, everyone expecting us to get £10m. He's at least halved in value, £5m at best

 

[Bladesman]

That press conference reeks of a man whose finding out the truth about himself.

Not sure he has got there yet.

 

[JohnDenver]

BBD as Hamer replacement would be very underwhelming to say the least. His first stint seems like nothing more than a purple patch in retrospect and his second stint was completely forgettable.

That mustn’t be allowed. Now we’re a standard Champ club, any large fee should be for a player who can accrue value.

This is why Norwich took Brooks.