Outgoing? Hamer

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Another reason I think he agrees to the Cov deal, is that I don't think another Prem side comes in for him. I think this is the highest level offer he'll receive, which when coupled with the sentiment means it'll be the most compelling offer. That or a new deal with the Bleds.

 

[Silent Blade]

Good point. For this not on X, here's the comment from the Blade posting...View attachment 241221

We will find out in the next 31 days!

 

[Berkshire Blade]

If I was a Coventry fan I wouldn't be excited about signing Hamer for the much more physically demanding premier league tbh.


The radio Sheffield interview with one of the coaches yesterday was interesting. Talking about out plans this year.. pressing and running in behind front our forward players. None of which sounds like Hamer.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

If I was a Coventry fan I wouldn't be excited about signing Hamer for the much more physically demanding premier league tbh.


The radio Sheffield interview with one of the coaches yesterday was interesting. Talking about out plans this year.. pressing and running in behind front our forward players. None of which sounds like Hamer.

They're getting a technically improved player, since his time with us, but they sure as hell aren't getting a fitter or more disciplined player!

That plan sounds good to me...but who's gonna execute that? We have sod all athleticism

 

[Bell4]

They're getting a technically improved player, since his time with us, but they sure as hell aren't getting a fitter or more disciplined player!

That plan sounds good to me...but who's gonna execute that? We have sod all athleticism

Disagree

We have , for a start , Rothwell - ah , you see - your argument starting to dissolve - then we have Phillips (please god ) and of course backing all of this up - Jairo - not to mention the overlapping Maguiness and our Captain Tango

So , you see - nothing to worr….

…. Mmmm , see your point

 

[Champagneblade]

Another reason I think he agrees to the Cov deal, is that I don't think another Prem side comes in for him. I think this is the highest level offer he'll receive, which when coupled with the sentiment means it'll be the most compelling offer. That or a new deal with the Bleds.

I do think we hold some aces here.

I’m not aware that Coventry have particularly big backing.

So it’s mainly the tv money they will spend.

Finishing in first spot doesn’t always guarantee you’ll adapt to the division higher up better than those finishing below you. Sunderland a case in point.

Much like with youth football, you're sometimes better not being the best team collectively but having some individual stars.

In the case of youth football it’s those that then kick on to ‘make it’; it’s seldom the ‘team’ all come through. Man U’s class of 92 is a bit of an example.

In this case when you go up you can selectively upgrade those who are not the stars. It’s far harder or at least more expensive to upgrade the lot.

So Coventry in my view will not recruit beyond a certain pool. That pool has its limits. For that reason, Hamer will be coveted by them as one of the few with top level experience already who would come to them. Plenty more won’t go there and plenty more that would lack any more experience than their current players.

If he does show interest then I’d say scope to squeeze them is there if we hold firm. They will offer 5m. I’d tell them come back with the 15m we paid you and we’ll talk. Get a deal at the 10-12.5m level. He’ll be good for a 3-4 year deal for them, next year in the Championship. Yes he doesn’t have the premium of being 26 when he joined us, but he has some proven ability at the top level which he didn’t have before. So if he’s good enough to help their PL survival campaign he’s good enough to be rated at eight figures. Otherwise, are they simply saying they don’t rate him that highly? They just see him as a bargain bin deal? Can’t have it both ways.

 

[Beans]

If I was a Coventry fan I wouldn't be excited about signing Hamer for the much more physically demanding premier league tbh.


The radio Sheffield interview with one of the coaches yesterday was interesting. Talking about out plans this year.. pressing and running in behind front our forward players. None of which sounds like Hamer.

Unfortunately it doesn't sound like any of our other players either apart from O'Hare (pressing) and Brooks (ah, crap).

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Unfortunately it doesn't sound like any of our other players either apart from O'Hare (pressing) and Brooks (ah, crap).

Don't know enough about the loan lad myself but no it doesn't really. The hecky side had a great press. Unfortunately we sold/lost them all before going into the premier league

 

[Davalon]

If I was a Coventry fan I wouldn't be excited about signing Hamer for the much more physically demanding premier league tbh.


The radio Sheffield interview with one of the coaches yesterday was interesting. Talking about out plans this year.. pressing and running in behind front our forward players. None of which sounds like Hamer.

It's all words at this point.

You're right that our front line apart from COH and maybe Donovan/Matondo aren't exactly built for that but over the years I've often heard managers talk about their intended style and seen little evidence of it on a Saturday.

If we want to get the best out of Cannon then he needs support and a partner. Without that we may as well let him go imho.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Unfortunately it doesn't sound like any of our other players either apart from O'Hare (pressing) and Brooks (ah, crap).

You mean, you don't rate Tom Cannon?

 

[Blademan89]

If I was a Coventry fan I wouldn't be excited about signing Hamer for the much more physically demanding premier league tbh.


The radio Sheffield interview with one of the coaches yesterday was interesting. Talking about out plans this year.. pressing and running in behind front our forward players. None of which sounds like Hamer.

But you've got to have someone capable of getting the ball to these players running in behind and Hamer is 1 of very few at the club that can do that and that will try it.

Also with this tactic it opens up space for someone like hamer to have space and time.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

Playing devils advocate slightly but there’s no guarantee he leaves on a free. Clubs haven’t exactly been beating down our door to sign him and most have walked away judging him poor value.

I wouldn’t be entirely surprised if at the end of his contract there aren’t many decent offers for 30 year old second tier forward with a history of poor fitness and discipline.

You look at Vinicius Junior, Real Madrid have said sign a new contract or we’ll sell you.

Even they know the importance on a bigger scale of not letting players go for free

 

[ancientblade]

It's all words at this point.

You're right that our front line apart from COH and maybe Donovan/Matondo aren't exactly built for that but over the years I've often heard managers talk about their intended style and seen little evidence of it on a Saturday.

If we want to get the best out of Cannon then he needs support and a partner. Without that we may as well let him go imho.

think your spot on davalon about cannon he has to be played in a front 2 with bamford or we might as well take the loss and try for 5/6m for him that might entice stoke back in for him

 

[Carlton Blade]

You look at Vinicius Junior, Real Madrid have said sign a new contract or we’ll sell you.

Even they know the importance on a bigger scale of not letting players go for free

They've also already bought his replacement though

 

[Bladesman]

They've also already bought his replacement though

The crazy bastards.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

I do think we hold some aces here.

I’m not aware that Coventry have particularly big backing.

So it’s mainly the tv money they will spend.

Finishing in first spot doesn’t always guarantee you’ll adapt to the division higher up better than those finishing below you. Sunderland a case in point.

Much like with youth football, you're sometimes better not being the best team collectively but having some individual stars.

In the case of youth football it’s those that then kick on to ‘make it’; it’s seldom the ‘team’ all come through. Man U’s class of 92 is a bit of an example.

In this case when you go up you can selectively upgrade those who are not the stars. It’s far harder or at least more expensive to upgrade the lot.

So Coventry in my view will not recruit beyond a certain pool. That pool has its limits. For that reason, Hamer will be coveted by them as one of the few with top level experience already who would come to them. Plenty more won’t go there and plenty more that would lack any more experience than their current players.

If he does show interest then I’d say scope to squeeze them is there if we hold firm. They will offer 5m. I’d tell them come back with the 15m we paid you and we’ll talk. Get a deal at the 10-12.5m level. He’ll be good for a 3-4 year deal for them, next year in the Championship. Yes he doesn’t have the premium of being 26 when he joined us, but he has some proven ability at the top level which he didn’t have before. So if he’s good enough to help their PL survival campaign he’s good enough to be rated at eight figures. Otherwise, are they simply saying they don’t rate him that highly? They just see him as a bargain bin deal? Can’t have it both ways.

You're right, they aren't wealthy. Doug King made clear as such when he took over. They've maxed out their resources to get to where they are now.

How would you play it with them?

 

[Keen Blade]

Disagree

We have , for a start , Rothwell - ah , you see - your argument starting to dissolve - then we have Phillips (please god ) and of course backing all of this up - Jairo - not to mention the overlapping Maguiness and our Captain Tango

So , you see - nothing to worr….

…. Mmmm , see your point

Blimey , you nearly had me there !
Thought you were turning into a clapper.
Well,
Bells have clappers , don't they ?
Anyway ,
Thank goodness your post got realistic at the end.
Realistic Blades know that in essence we are on the slide.
The time to avoid it was when we had parachutes and we fucked that up.
So we few , we happy few ,
Must cling onto our beers and ride out the mediocre near future ,
Until our next unexpected upward surge.
Which on average occurs every 11 years , so I'm wondering how many remain for me
Still , chin up and ale down the hatch

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

It really puts into context how last summer's managerial appointment and subsequent recruitment has royally fucked us.

 

[Bladesman]

Gus Hamer ‘open’ to Coventry return as favourite faces Sheffield United fans

Coventry City transfer news from CoventryLive as Hamer addresses Sheffield United fans in Germany

www.coventrytelegraph.net

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

They've also already bought his replacement though

We have…Chong

 

[Carlton Blade]

We have…Chong

You make it sound like a disease

 

[Roygbiv]

Hamer isn't desperate to leave and wanted a move abroad but nothing worthwhile came in. It's a move that United are happy to go with so we don't lose him for free. Hamer is very disillusioned with football as a whole and wanted a big pay day for what will be his last big move but this is the next best thing.

It's shit for us because even though he's past his best and in poor shape, he was still by far our most creative player. I don't think he will be a success at Coventry either and I think they'll be surprised at the player they get back. Take a look at his size and they way he played for them in their play-off campaign in 2023. He's simply not that player anymore sadly.

By all accounts he's a top bloke so I hope it works out well for him.

 

[Bladesman]

Hamer isn't desperate to leave and wanted a move abroad but nothing worthwhile came in. It's a move that United are happy to go with so we don't lose him for free. Hamer is very disillusioned with football as a whole and wanted a big pay day for what will be his last big move but this is the next best thing.

It's shit for us because even though he's past his best and in poor shape, he was still by far our most creative player. I don't think he will be a success at Coventry either and I think they'll be surprised at the player they get back. Take a look at his size and they way he played for them in their play-off campaign in 2023. He's simply not that player anymore sadly.

By all accounts he's a top bloke so I hope it works out well for him.

I heard he is quite settled here but like I said elsewhere a commute to Coventry isn't that difficult to do.

 

[Pintor75]

Talk of Mason Mount ,doable, to Coventry in press, with
Rudoni, Grimes, Eccles & Torp also there I couldn't see Gus starting regularly, bar injuries, he's better off staying here imo

 

[harrry1990s]

I heard he is quite settled here but like I said elsewhere a commute to Coventry isn't that difficult to do.

It might be emotionally quite difficult to have to go to a dump like Coventry everyday, but I get your point.