Wilder - Get Rid Now, or After Last Game

[The Crab]

I find it bonkers that people use the "look what happened last summer" as a reason not to consider making a change.

A terrible decision doesnt mean the reason for making the decision was necessarily wrong.

Our poor form under wilder can be traced back to February 2025 since we lost 3-1 at home to Leeds.

There’s no reasoning with them, so I’m not going to, it’s not worth my time and what little energy I have.

They’re happy with how things are, others think things could be better.

It’s possible to be grateful he kept us up, but think change is for the best. Not just the manager but how the club does things.

I’m tired of how we do things if I’m honest. Something is happening to me that I thought would never happen.

I’m falling out of love

 

[ekke287]

I didn’t bother going or even following it yesterday. I spent the day sat in the sun with my family in a country park, and was blessed with no phone signal so couldn’t even check the result.

When I got home and found out, I simply shrugged my shoulders and went on with my day. That’s where I am now, complete disinterest and apathy.

If you saw my post midweek following Blackburn, I was fuming. Football isn’t worth losing sleep over anymore.

However one thing I will add here that’s often overlooked is the “people management” aspect of being in charge. I can speak from experience that it’s extremely hard to manage or motivate people if for whatever reasons they’re underperforming.

CW used to be someone who was great at doing that, now his attitude off the pitch is obviously leaking down to the players. “Lead by example” is a perfect summary of this situation.

The problem we have is that players respond differently to management styles. CW isn’t getting the basics from them, so we’re in a catch 22 situation:

1) CW can’t motivate the players to perform even at a basic level
2) If he manages to get them up to speed, he doesn’t know how to use them or have a tactical plan to win games.

So it’s rinse and repeat. We shows signs of life before capitulation, or we never show up until it’s far too late.

The right thing to do for CW is to shoulder some responsibility for the failure, admit it’s not working and walk away. However I feel he’s in a position where he’s seen the grass isn’t greener anywhere else, so will stick around until he’s fired. We now also know our owners are terrified of making the wrong decision, so we’re stuck in this loop of apathy, disappointment and lack of noticeable progression.

 

[The Crab]

Oh, right, so they're not behaving like pigs then, they're just insane. Good to know.

• Quick reminder of how insanity is often defined:

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• Quick reminder of what happened the last time the club got rid of Wilder:

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If anyone thinks a repeat of the utter fiasco that culminated in that shocking League table I've posted above, is "best for United", they genuinely are insane.

And I'm the one that needs to give my head a wobble...

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So we’re pigs for not agreeing with you?

There was me thinking it was ok to have a difference of opinion without being called a pig.

 

[Carlton Blade]

He got to 92 with his squad picks, not the bunch of no hopers we signed last summer. Can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear, not can you polish turds, as some like to think.

Souza, Hamer, Anel were pretty much the spine of that team and weren't signed by Wilder. Seriki, Brooks, Peck, Arblaster are obviously academy products. Part of a managers job is to get the best out of players he inherited

 

[Caveblade]

Admittedly I haven't been a regular this season but I'm trying to remember the last time I saw a United team as 'flat' and lifeless as that first half performance. Even when we were getting regularly tonked last time we were in the prem, we showed more fight and spirit. Two possible options for me: either we give Wilder a substantial wedge to rebuild with (unlikely) or we change the manager.

Last time i saw a United team that flat and lifeless was Wednesday night!

 

[BangorBlade]

Absolutely disgusting and if any blade can find a reason to back that then

And it doesn't help when he's selecting player who know that they are either going to be here or wanted here next season so most will have checked out in recent weeks

 

[Beans]

There's a litmus test for me with Wilder.

If he extends or renews Shackleton's contract this summer, then he's lost the plot and has to go.

Shackleton is the epitomy of Wilders reign. A project. A player with an injury record, whose continued that here. When he has played, it's hard to see what he's good at. Too small, not quick enough, not strong enough and physically weak. Wilder keeps signing them, as "Projects".

We can't afford his vanity projects

Let's see what he does with Shackleton - it'll tell us a lot about CW and his intentions

Bad news I'm afraid - Shackleton has another year on his contract.

 

[Blade56]

His interview today is everything that I don’t like about Wilder.

“The bit in the middle was good”
“Poor in both boxes”
“Nothing in the game tactically”
“We went til the end”
“The shirt feels heavy at the moment”

It’s clear the board don’t want him cause they sacked him and tried to get the dinasour DNA out of the club and make us a modern outfit fit for purpose.

So why would they give him until Christmas to f*ck up another season and prove he is a dinasour?

Get rid after last game ffs. If this was happening we’d know by now as feelers would be out and Biggsy would have had it on his patreon site by now.

 

[Rudders]

Bad news I'm afraid - Shackleton has another year on his contract.

But don’t worry he won’t ever be fit enough to play for us during this period.

 

[Blade56]

Oh, right, so they're not behaving like pigs then, they're just insane. Good to know.

• Quick reminder of how insanity is often defined:

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• Quick reminder of what happened the last time the club got rid of Wilder:

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If anyone thinks a repeat of the utter fiasco that culminated in that shocking League table I've posted above, is "best for United", they genuinely are insane.

And I'm the one that needs to give my head a wobble...

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On that basis we are stuck with Wider FOREVER? If that were the case we would still have Bassett or Warnock in charge.

He past his sell by date several times. The ONLY thing the owners got wrong was hiring the wrong man into the job. The modernisation, looking at recruitment etc was spot on but they fluffed it up with Selles and then panicked by rehiring the very problem they had dealt with.

 

[Beans]

But don’t worry he won’t ever be fit enough to play for us during this period.

It was more the fact we have to keep paying him

 

[Blade56]

Out done by Hecky twice. When their second went in and the cameras went to the dug outs, Wilder n Knilly were waving and pointing the arms/fingers.
Hecky stood, the arms folded with a smirk on his face.

Don’t blame him with the guy that stabbed him in the back stood 20m away eating humble pie

 

[Bell4]

hopefully that’s because they’ve all been sectioned so they can get the specialist care they need.

I support Wilder and I’ve just joined the thread

 

[Blade56]

I support Wilder and I’ve just joined the thread

Go back to bed, it’s carnage

 

[Bell4]

Go back to bed, it’s carnage

Ok
Good advice

I just thought everyone would benefit from my laser , focused , futuristic - on the ball ,up to the minute thinking

Has Trump been shot ?

 

[cahill]

I've been in the camp that says it could be worse but I really struggle to see how this is going to get better from here. I've said give him until November but honestly, how have we got this bad from the improved performances we were seeing. My problem (and the main reason for being in the keep Wilder camp) is that I don't trust COH to get it right. This could be the start of one awful journey for us but despite that I'm moving towards thank you for the memories Chris but please do the right thing, let's all move on and if you really love the club don't drain of the money we need to have some chance of a turnaround next season with silly compo demands. I know the anti Wilder brigade will come back with the usual trashing but can we please do it in a way that brings fans together and have us looking forward with some hope to next season.

That’s the contradiction isn’t it ? Get rid and take a huge gamble with a new manager or keep Wilder and be more or less guaranteed Championship football for the following season but be bored to death

 

[Keen Blade]

Why do the Wilder-ites always point to the absolute worst case scenarios/examples as a reason not to change? And never have an actual suggestion for what happens when Wilder does eventually leave, whatever that reason might be. They must realise at some point that is going to happen? It just seems to be, let's hope Wilder can rekindle something from several years ago and kick that can down the road a bit longer.

Some of the pigs' Deludamol must be leaking into the Wilderites' drinking-water with disastrous consequences.

And due an oceanic phenomenon akin to a reversal of the gulfstream , a small but sufficient quantity has reached Cleveland , Ohio.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Oh, right, so they're not behaving like pigs then, they're just insane. Good to know.

• Quick reminder of how insanity is often defined:

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• Quick reminder of what happened the last time the club got rid of Wilder:

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If anyone thinks a repeat of the utter fiasco that culminated in that shocking League table I've posted above, is "best for United", they genuinely are insane.

And I'm the one that needs to give my head a wobble...

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The wobble comment was about your ridiculous “pig like” statement, not the football element. What’s even more laughable is that you yourself have gone down the Pork Talk route and tried to change the narrative away from your nonsense.

 

[Keen Blade]

Bad news I'm afraid - Shackleton has another year on his contract.

We are SHACKLED to him - he's our ball & chain.
And Danny "the mouthpiece" Hall says he'll play a significant role next season.
As what ?
One might be tempted to ask ,
A feckin door-stop ?
Or a car-park attendant ?

 

[SouthStandGBlock]

Bad news I'm afraid - Shackleton has another year on his contract.

Nooooooooooooooooooooo

He didn't even make the 25 man squad.

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

• Quick reminder of what happened the last time the club got rid of Wilder:

If anyone thinks a repeat of the utter fiasco that culminated in that shocking League table I've posted above, is "best for United", they genuinely are insane.

The last time the club appointed the completely wrong manager.

Can't you see the huge difference in the two things??
Do you honestly believe no there manage in the world can do a better job for us than CW?

Also, pack it in with the "genuinely insane" stuff. Ridiculous.

 

[Keen Blade]

Ok
Good advice

I just thought everyone would benefit from my laser , focused , futuristic - on the ball ,up to the minute thinking

Has Trump been shot ?

No they keep feckin missing

 

[Keen Blade]

It’s clear the board don’t want him cause they sacked him and tried to get the dinasour DNA out of the club and make us a modern outfit fit for purpose.

So why would they give him until Christmas to f*ck up another season and prove he is a dinasour?

Get rid after last game ffs. If this was happening we’d know by now as feelers would be out and Biggsy would have had it on his patreon site by now.

I'll never understand why they gave him such a long contract - yet more proof of the stupidity of our owners - gathering up millstones to hang round their own neck like Chong & McGuiness.
Or do they rely on Director Bettis for this kind of thing ?
Either way , they're like children destroying their own toy

 

[skegblade]

I'd snatch you hand off to finish 21st next season. Bamford, Brooks, Seriki, Peck, Arblaster, McCallum and maybe O'Hare are the only players I wouldn't want to lose the rest can go, sooner the better.
Wilder and his staff should be shown the door on Monday morning, disgraceful performances week after week, lose a couple of our better players and replace them with average Joe's and we will be sleepwalking to League One. Not to mention the amount of people who say they will not renew their ST especially if Wilder remains manager.

Whats arblaster done since his injury not half the player he was very few come back from that injury 100%

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

• Quick reminder of how insanity is often defined:

That's not the definition of insanity, it's just a stupid saying people keep repeating.

There are countless examples of things in life which will yield different results by doing the exact same thing.

 

[Superblades]

He got to 92 with his squad picks, not the bunch of no hopers we signed last summer. Can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear, not can you polish turds, as some like to think.

With one of the largest budgets available and 90 points or not - he still failed.

 

[Danetheblade]

He got to 92 with his squad picks, not the bunch of no hopers we signed last summer. Can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear, not can you polish turds, as some like to think.

What about those signings he made in January?

 

[Broomhall Blade]

Why do the Wilder-ites always point to the absolute worst case scenarios/examples as a reason not to change? And never have an actual suggestion for what happens when Wilder does eventually leave, whatever that reason might be. They must realise at some point that is going to happen? It just seems to be, let's hope Wilder can rekindle something from several years ago and kick that can down the road a bit longer.

I honestly think most of them are hoping he survives until Billy is ready to takeover.
I think they have it in their heads that the club cannot survive unless their is a Bladey Bladey connection and they "Get the Club"
I have said loads of times before alot of our fans would love it if we renamed ourselves Royston Vasey United, "We'll have no outsiders here".

 

[luffenhamblade]

When he squirms off down the tunnel at the end of today's game he should keep walking straight out the back door and never come back.

I know a lot of Blades who despise Wilder on this forum post this sort of stuff regularly. Also, understand the feeling that leads to the post and the emotion that we all feel. It's also clear that the same bunch likes these posts each time, which again I get, as it probably makes them feel better. If you see my posts, I am at the point where I recognise we need a change, but lack confidence in COH getting it right, and that's my problem. Getting rid of Wilder makes some feel better for a short while, "a dopamine thing after years of frustration," but if, as feels likely, we don't make the right appointment, then we are on a downward spiral. I also recognise that those massive anti-Wilders will see that as a price worth paying, and I'm almost at the point where I recognise we need to accept the pain now to refocus for the future, but, and here's my long-winded point, this kind of post is just fueling the division between fans. I feel that Wilder is on the way out, maybe now, maybe next season, but it feels inevitable, so maybe it's time to try in our posts to bring fans together, so when this happens, we can have a joint view on next steps and get behind future management. Tough to take when you want to flaunt a victory, I know, but what is better for our club?

 

[Broomhall Blade]

What about those signings he made in January?

Come on everybody knows January transfer windows don't count.