Lost for words & disillusioned

[Silky Sabella]

Wrexham had two things we didn't and haven't had all season
Heart and cardiovascular fitness

100% correct Frank.
Wrexham have played 3 games in the last 7 days, 2 being away from home, and today had 2 key players injured, Moore, and Matty James.
Also, has anyone else thought it could also be the quality difference between wilder and Phil Parkinson, who I have advocated for the next Blades manager numerous times on this forum.

 

[Bellypork]

If you take the view that this team isn't good enough to go up, then why want to take part in the playoffs?

What United absolutely didn't need was two consecutive playoff defeats.

You welcome that as you would welcome a rabid dog.

There's a club not to far from the Lane who lost two on the trot, and we all know how that turned out.

Regroup and go again next time.

 

[Rob86]

Agreed with the 1st paragraph then lost it a bit afterwards !

I do feel the same about next season though, difficult to have any hope for it as we’ve firmly established ourselves as a mid table Championship squad.

It’s going to take a hell of a lot of work in the summer to get us back competing at the top end. The worry is that it could just as easily go the other way.

 

[Houston_Blade]

If you take the view that this team isn't good enough to go up, then why want to take part in the playoffs?

What United absolutely didn't need was two consecutive playoff defeats.

You welcome that as you would welcome a rabid dog.

There's a club not to far from the Lane who lost two on the trot, and we all know how that turned out.

Regroup and go again next time.

The alternative is that we enter Championship purgatory and become Preston, the assumption that we’ll be much better next year is dependent on a lot of things going our way between now and the start of next season. I don’t have much confidence that a combination of our board and transfer committee (whoever that may be nowadays) will keep the better players and/or bring in good players and replacements where required. This is based on budget restrictions, competency issues and pure old “it’s the Blades way”.

 

[Guesty]

If you take the view that this team isn't good enough to go up, then why want to take part in the playoffs?

What United absolutely didn't need was two consecutive playoff defeats.

You welcome that as you would welcome a rabid dog.

There's a club not to far from the Lane who lost two on the trot, and we all know how that turned out.

Regroup and go again next time.

We're facing a financial gotterdammerung now we can't go up this season. The play-offs are wank and being in the Premier League is even worse but unfortunately the stark reality we need to be promoted or else we'll be facing relegation in a year or two.

 

[Bellypork]

We're facing a financial gotterdammerung now we can't go up this season. The play-offs are wank and being in the Premier League is even worse but unfortunately the stark reality we need to be promoted or else we'll be facing relegation in a year or two.

I think that there's been a hangover from the playoffs last season, so even if Selles hadn't been brought in it would have been difficult to replicate last season.

What United needs is a clear out, with new blood being brought into the club. There are too many who now look stale, and Hamer is a fine example of that.

Wilder's a very effective manager when (a) he gets his kind of player in, and (b) when the players have got some fire.

Yes, there will be a loss in revenue, but there are players who can be sold to counteract that.

 

[Borbokisfreekick]

As soon as it goes to 1-1 there was only one outcome.

You could see what was happening and then the subs due to the lack of fitness confirm the result.

I’d love to know the data for all of Wilder’s games with us on how many games we’ve actually won from a losing position or when we’ve been pegged back to 1-1. I can’t think of many that we’ve even gone on to win when the opposition have equalized, let alone us often coming from behind to win a game. It’s a consistent pattern during his three spells with us.

 

[Melbourne Blade]

Oh relegation is still a possibility with performances like that and West Brom

We're 11 points off relegation. We most certainly could get dragged into it if we lose 3 of the next 4. Players are feeling sorry for themselves still.

 

[Weasel]

We're 11 points off relegation. We most certainly could get dragged into it if we lose 3 of the next 4. Players are feeling sorry for themselves still.

Id feel a lot safer if we won just 1 more game. 53 points and you are staying up barring something ridiculous happening.

Lets hope it happens v Swansea on Good Friday, as i have lost confidence in this team. No mental strength, lack of fitness (still, in frickin April), and a relegatiom battle (which we would probably lose) woukd be the shit cherry on a shit cake season.

Lets just get safe, get to the end of the season, go our seperate ways for the summer, and let the manager (whoever it may be) have a huge turnover in players.

 

[ATL Recs]

I think that there's been a hangover from the playoffs last season, so even if Selles hadn't been brought in it would have been difficult to replicate last season.

What United needs is a clear out, with new blood being brought into the club. There are too many who now look stale, and Hamer is a fine example of that.

Wilder's a very effective manager when (a) he gets his kind of player in, and (b) when the players have got some fire.

Yes, there will be a loss in revenue, but there are players who can be sold to counteract that.

You mean are younger players? whose going to buy “our” players ( exception being Hamer for around 6 million) possibly Ohare other than that they are on good wages some on long contracts
You say we had a hangover from last season - we spent a lot in the summer on. Car boot left overs. - and lucky picks .the owners ideas were right it was how we carried fit out and who was in charge that was wrong

 

[Nick Jansky]

We're facing a financial gotterdammerung now we can't go up this season. The play-offs are wank and being in the Premier League is even worse but unfortunately the stark reality we need to be promoted or else we'll be facing relegation in a year or two.

I disagree on the relegation bit simply because of the quality of our academy. I think we’re far more likely to become a Preston or Stoke.

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

Not actually lost for words then..

 

[Guesty]

I disagree on the relegation bit simply because of the quality of our academy. I think we’re far more likely to become a Preston or Stoke.

That's true, we seem to always have good players coming through. I think even the best academy will have fallow periods, though.

 

[TJ blade]

I disagree on the relegation bit simply because of the quality of our academy. I think we’re far more likely to become a Preston or Stoke.

We've become Preston/ Stoke mate

 

[Rufus Smalls]

Wrexham had two things we didn't and haven't had all season
Heart and cardiovascular fitness

Spot on.

 

[ben1987]

How many players (and staff) are we actually bothered about seeing in a United shirt next season?

Seriki, Brooks, Peck and maybe O’Hare on work rate and that’s about it for me.

Arblaster gets a pass until next season due to the injury.

Pretty much everyone else I’m genuinely not arsed if I never see em again.

 

[Keen Blade]

I dont even know how I feel about this team.
There is nothing about this squad of players, or management that gives me any hope towards the next season.
I actually enjoyed football under Selles more than I do now, yes we lost all 6, but that first half against Bristol City, the display at home against Millwall, we actually looked like we could play.
The players we brought in last summer, Tanganga, christ he is poor. Bindon, poor. The amount of red cards, yet, Wilder will always get a free pass, cause he's one of us.
Nothing more to say, roll on the summer? For more injury prone loanees from the prem.

I don't agree with all your comments but - ignoring the detail - I am completely with you in terms of the sentiment.
It feels like since the 15/16 low point , we have been right through the emotional mill following the Blades.
It's exhausting.
And - 10 years on - we are now coming back to that horrible disconnect between players & fans.
How we can have such a sub-standard squad after the countless £millions that have drained through the club is testament to the incompetence of those in charge at various levels.
The future prospects are not great.
We have stupid , distant owners.
One of them stood on stage in the fan zone recently and wedded the club to Wilder till death us do part.
And Billy Sharp to follow.
Both heroes in their own way , but the owners seem to have fallen hook , line & sinker into "bladey bladeness".
For an American investment consortium , that's bizarre behaviour.
Strikes me that there's no investment coming or - if it should arrive - it'll be poured into the same old defective corporate structure at the Lane and the same crap recruitment , coaching & fitness.
Still , I suppose we can plant potatoes at Dore and be entertained by watching the pigs snuffling around in the media.
And we wonder why Sheffield doesn't make much of being the home of football

 

[Keen Blade]

We're facing a financial gotterdammerung now we can't go up this season. The play-offs are wank and being in the Premier League is even worse but unfortunately the stark reality we need to be promoted or else we'll be facing relegation in a year or two.

I like your optimism with "facing relegation in a year or two".
We're facing it now.
We've been a parachute club and we've nevertheless contrived to start our downward trajectory with appalling examples of wasted money.
No parachutes now , and a squad full of mediocre loans that we can't now afford to replace.
And in the permanents , no leaders around whom to build a team.
Unless some quite remarkable investment arrives from our owners , we'll be struggling next season once our young guns have been sold.

 

[Pintor75]

Dissolutioned almost nails it, we've come from League one to the Premier League and now we're looking like going back there if we're not careful. Some awful signings and our £10m man doesn't even come on as a sub when we need more attacking players, Has wilder given up on him now as well? We need a kick up the backside before next season as it'll be a lot harder than this season with the sides coming down

 

[The Vicar]

All this with a wage bill of £600,000 a Week!

 

[MKY]

Usual stuff
Play good
Score
Defend
Concede
panic
This is on wilder now. Sorry but hes treading thin ice. And im a wilder fanboy.

This is exactly it & every other team we play will know it.

 

[crucialkneeligaman]

I don't agree with all your comments but - ignoring the detail - I am completely with you in terms of the sentiment.
It feels like since the 15/16 low point , we have been right through the emotional mill following the Blades.
It's exhausting.
And - 10 years on - we are now coming back to that horrible disconnect between players & fans.
How we can have such a sub-standard squad after the countless £millions that have drained through the club is testament to the incompetence of those in charge at various levels.
The future prospects are not great.
We have stupid , distant owners.
One of them stood on stage in the fan zone recently and wedded the club to Wilder till death us do part.
And Billy Sharp to follow.
Both heroes in their own way , but the owners seem to have fallen hook , line & sinker into "bladey bladeness".
For an American investment consortium , that's bizarre behaviour.
Strikes me that there's no investment coming or - if it should arrive - it'll be poured into the same old defective corporate structure at the Lane and the same crap recruitment , coaching & fitness.
Still , I suppose we can plant potatoes at Dore and be entertained by watching the pigs snuffling around in the media.
And we wonder why Sheffield doesn't make much of being the home of football

Rotting from the inside out.

 

[Keen Blade]

Rotting from the inside out.

Yep , like a pear that's been in yer fruit bowl too long.
Might look vaguely ok , but once you slice through to the core ....

 

[bornablade]

A thread named 'Lost for Words...' is now running towards 5 pages.

I love irony me.

 

[GymClassHero]

Dissolutioned almost nails it, we've come from League one to the Premier League and now we're looking like going back there if we're not careful. Some awful signings and our £10m man doesn't even come on as a sub when we need more attacking players, Has wilder given up on him now as well? We need a kick up the backside before next season as it'll be a lot harder than this season with the sides coming down

He'll be firing on both cylinders once he's a had a full Wilder pre season...

£10m down the drain.

Until now I haven't actually considered the amount of money wasted in total. Brewster, McBurnie, that's the best part of £40m and there's no return on investment for either. It's bloody shambolic and negligent is what it is.

The copious amounts of PL money (promotion, parachute payments etc) that has been spunked is absolutely criminal. We should be a stable PL team like the 3 B's (brighton, Brentford, Bournemouth). Instead we are have just been haemorrhaging money for best part of a decade

 

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

I dont even know how I feel about this team.
There is nothing about this squad of players, or management that gives me any hope towards the next season.
I actually enjoyed football under Selles more than I do now, yes we lost all 6, but that first half against Bristol City, the display at home against Millwall, we actually looked like we could play.
The players we brought in last summer, Tanganga, christ he is poor. Bindon, poor. The amount of red cards, yet, Wilder will always get a free pass, cause he's one of us.
Nothing more to say, roll on the summer? For more injury prone loanees from the prem.

To be fair to Wilder, the football this season has been more attacking and entertaining than last season. It is definitely not worse than under Selles.

 

[ckpe147]

I don't agree with all your comments but - ignoring the detail - I am completely with you in terms of the sentiment.
It feels like since the 15/16 low point , we have been right through the emotional mill following the Blades.
It's exhausting.
And - 10 years on - we are now coming back to that horrible disconnect between players & fans.
How we can have such a sub-standard squad after the countless £millions that have drained through the club is testament to the incompetence of those in charge at various levels.
The future prospects are not great.
We have stupid , distant owners.
One of them stood on stage in the fan zone recently and wedded the club to Wilder till death us do part.
And Billy Sharp to follow.
Both heroes in their own way , but the owners seem to have fallen hook , line & sinker into "bladey bladeness".
For an American investment consortium , that's bizarre behaviour.
Strikes me that there's no investment coming or - if it should arrive - it'll be poured into the same old defective corporate structure at the Lane and the same crap recruitment , coaching & fitness.
Still , I suppose we can plant potatoes at Dore and be entertained by watching the pigs snuffling around in the media.
And we wonder why Sheffield doesn't make much of being the home of football

The problem is, the board were clearly trying to do the summer on the cheap.
Looking to pocket the funds we had for Anel and Vini.
Bring in a couple of loans here and there to supplement the squad, they realised that wasnt going to work after 3 games into the season, and ended up spunking stupid money on players that cant get into the team.
Out of the signings made in the summer, only Tanganga and Bindon are regulars in the team, that shows how much panic had set into those making the decisions. Had the board had some sort of plan, the season would have been different, instead, they sack wilder (which i agreed with) and brought a yes man in, but didnt back him. Brought Wilder back with players that aren't good enough.

 

[djbaldken]

Grin and bear it. No thanks

Well, there is an answer to that.

 

[Slim Man]

Well, there is an answer to that.

What's that?

You're going to tell me to not bother going.

My comment would be why not demand better? Why be content with us being losers?

 

[Nick Jansky]

He'll be firing on both cylinders once he's a had a full Wilder pre season...

£10m down the drain.

Until now I haven't actually considered the amount of money wasted in total. Brewster, McBurnie, that's the best part of £40m and there's no return on investment for either. It's bloody shambolic and negligent is what it is.

The copious amounts of PL money (promotion, parachute payments etc) that has been spunked is absolutely criminal. We should be a stable PL team like the 3 B's (brighton, Brentford, Bournemouth). Instead we are have just been haemorrhaging money for best part of a decade

We have so little to show for all the money that has been spent. Just look at the state of the squad. And imagine where we would be if it wasn’t for the academy contributing players and outgoing transfers. Considering the money we have had it is impossible to conclude anything other than the club has been woefully run and woefully managed.