Before the 20 Wilder haters surface..

[Nick Jansky]

He put his best mate on the pen when we had Bamford and burrows on the pitch masterstroke that ah Chris

I think the thinking was that Sydie has bottle and mental toughness, which he has. But unfortunately the flaw in that plan is that striking a ball is not one of Sydie’s strengths.

 

[sitwell]

He put his best mate on the pen when we had Bamford and burrows on the pitch masterstroke that ah Chris

His best mate ,jesus fucking wept. was he in Tank with him on Friday night or had Peck scored our last 2 pens , when Burrows and Bamford had missed theirs ?

 

[ChefYouKnighted1889]

Chris wanted him to score so he had an excuse to big him up if he really cared that much it would have been Bamford or burrows think of the club not your mate

 

[ChefYouKnighted1889]

His best mate ,jesus fucking wept. was he in Tank with him on Friday night or had Peck scored our last 2 pens , when Burrows and Bamford had missed theirs ?

Shearer missed a few just cos sideways sydie scored his last 2 doesn't guarantee he'd score next one

 

[YES Blade]

He inherited someone else's team

I don’t know how you can say it was someone else’s team! For his early matches, Wilder had 11 players in the squad that were at the club last season.

 

[Bell4]

He works better with a limited budget which we will have next season. The squad is capable of a top six finish and needed only fine tuning last summer. He knows the vast majority of the players and what needs to be done including getting us much fitter in the summer. Too many players weren’t fit enough when the season started which wasn’t down to him. He has achieved the remit of avoiding relegation. Let’s not kid ourselves. Nobody was thinking of play offs when we were losing every game under Selles, we were that bad. You can’t turn that form and shot confidence round overnight. If we want to deviate from Wilder which we will have to at some point then the infrastructure needs to be altered which it won’t be anytime soon. Finallly after guiding us to 90 points last season and to safety this the majority think he deserves another chance……
So off you go then, in a sensible constructive way, why don’t you think he’s the man for the job?

Good post

Of course he deserves another season - whereas the owners

 

[HOT CURRIE 10]

Most of these lemons would settle for us playing in League 1 just as long and Wilder was the manager.

Yep,we cannot move on from his first excellent tenure,where it was the best football I’ve seen,lose 1 player and it all falls apart.As I said yesterday our Wilder lovers are extremely happy with a 15th place finish,no one else could have done it !! Especially with an array of £25k players being paid to propel them up the table.

 

[BalticBlade]

Lads! LADS! We've all had a few drinks

 

[KMC-1889]

Bloody hell I’m far from wilder’s biggest fan but some on this thread have properly lost their heads.

 

[DronnieBlade]

Opinions on this are varied.

Mine is this.

Take a look at the pain clearly visible on Wilders face in his post Brum interview before you crack your next remark.

He’s hurting. More than most of yous lot being honest about it.

UTB

 

[Brownieblade]

I wonder if this thread will end up with the 20 being some form of Epstein list

Everyone will have an idea but no one will really know, including the 20 themselves

 

[Brian Deane]

Lads! LADS! We've all had a few drinks

Only Water,Tea and Coffee since Jan 7th

 

[Bladesman]

I wonder if this thread will end up with the 20 being some form of Epstein list

Everyone will have an idea but no one will really know, including the 20 themselves

You could make a film about the list.

The hateful twenty doesn’t quite have the same ring to it as the hateful eight though.

 

[Brownieblade]

You could make a film about the list.

The hateful twenty doesn’t quite have the same ring to it as the hateful eight though.

Could do then there was twenty

Wilder fakes his own death and then with the help of some on here he starts bumping them off one by one

Of course after the first few deaths being successful he would insist on all the deaths being done the same way but that’s something we could work on

 

[YES Blade]

Opinions on this are varied.

Mine is this.

Take a look at the pain clearly visible on Wilders face in his post Brum interview before you crack your next remark.

He’s hurting. More than most of yous lot being honest about it.

UTB

I don’t know what to make of his hurt. Is it the stick he’s getting? Is it disappointment in how the season has gone? Is there an element of fatigue with being the manager for 3 separate stints, 8 years out of 10 years?

Wilder would probably be a safe pair of hands and do an alright job next season. But with the history between the club, fans and Wilder. It could well be best for everyone to move on, including Wilder.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Shearer missed a few just cos sideways sydie scored his last 2 doesn't guarantee he'd score next one

That applies to any penalty taker. Not really a point is it?

 

[Loco Blade]

This season was fooked from the get go . I will reserve judgement until the end of next season based on recruitment, the ability to keep our squad fit and Wilders tactics . Look me up in May 27
UTB

 

[loyalblade95]

A good draw, but we should have won if Harrison had taken the penalty; he would have scored. Nothing against Siddy Peck.
Davies has a good game. The red card was a mistake by the referee; Bindon was covering at the back.
The playoffs are over, and I don't think we will cut the gap.

Fair enough, but Burrows did miss his last penalty which had he scored, would have gotten us a crucial point away at Hull in September, whereas Peck has scored his last 2 penalties.

Red card was a mistake, one of a few across the EFL yesterday, with that Charlie Hughes one for Hull being the worst of the lot.

Agree on Davies, he's been solid of late, and Bindon has easily been out most improved player recently.

While he's been inconsistent with his impact and performances this season, I'm glad we've got Hamer back for Wrexham as he's one of the few players we've got (Brooks and Bamford are the others) who can produce moments of quality to win games on their own.

 

[Silky Sabella]

 

[Silky Sabella]

Crawl back under your stone !

 

[Silky Sabella]

I wonder if this thread will end up with the 20 being some form of Epstein list

Everyone will have an idea but no one will really know, including the 20 themselves

It is actually 200 !

 

[Silky Sabella]

Could do then there was twenty

Wilder fakes his own death and then with the help of some on here he starts bumping them off one by one

Of course after the first few deaths being successful he would insist on all the deaths being done the same way but that’s something we could work on

Your mummy should put you to bed earlier!

 

[JasonEllis]

I don’t know what to make of his hurt. Is it the stick he’s getting? Is it disappointment in how the season has gone? Is there an element of fatigue with being the manager for 3 separate stints, 8 years out of 10 years?

Wilder would probably be a safe pair of hands and do an alright job next season. But with the history between the club, fans and Wilder. It could well be best for everyone to move on, including Wilder.

It is largely irrelevant that he is hurting tbh - as a fan, or indeed as a dedicated manager, he should be hurting. If he wasn't, that would be the concern.

As you say, for me he's a safe pair of hands and if he stays we'll do alright - the question is do we want to move on or not.

I keep flip-flopping on this, but the reason I'm ultimately for not changing manager too soon is less to do with the positives of/faith in Wilder; it's far more the worry about who the Club will appoint next, given the complete clusterfuck with Selles in the Summer...

 

[YES Blade]

It is largely irrelevant that he is hurting tbh - as a fan, or indeed as a dedicated manager, he should be hurting. If he wasn't, that would be the concern.

As you say, for me he's a safe pair of hands and if he stays we'll do alright - the question is do we want to move on or not.

I keep flip-flopping on this, but the reason I'm ultimately for not changing manager too soon is less to do with the positives of/faith in Wilder; it's far more the worry about who the Club will appoint next, given the complete clusterfuck with Selles in the Summer...

I’m similar, I don’t trust the owners to get a new manager appointment right, but Wilder as manager doesn’t exactly getting me excited about next season.

Ultimately I think I’m just ready for us to move on, it feels like it’s gone stale. Wilder isn’t a bad manager by any means but I just want something new and some optimism (even if it might end up being short lived).

 

[spongebobblade]

It is actually 200

Name them

 

[1066blade]

Only Water,Tea and Coffee since Jan 7th

Is that why you're so miserable?

 

[TJ blade]

I agree he hasn't been amazing, but he's been good. We had a long period where our form would put us in the top 2.

He inherited someone else's team on 0 points after what, 6 games? 7? I don't remember. He's improved things after we were all talking about relegation, with limited budget and time. Patrick Bamford and Rhiedewald were incredible free signings.

I think it's ridiculous to be giving them stick after the difficult season they've had after our changes of management.

Give him another season with full support to see what he can do with a full run of it. I think he'll get them fired up and we'll have a good one next season. The negativity being thrown around helps no-one, and it's one of the reasons we ended up with Selles in the first place.

Another one of the reasons we got Selles is he made a complete bolloxs of Wembley last May

 

[coolasanidiot]

Another one of the reasons we got Selles is he made a complete bolloxs of Wembley last May

That was Kieffer Moore.

 

[Broomhall Blade]

I wonder if this thread will end up with the 20 being some form of Epstein list

Everyone will have an idea but no one will really know, including the 20 themselves

I'm definitely one of the twenty.

 

[Bladesman]

It is largely irrelevant that he is hurting tbh - as a fan, or indeed as a dedicated manager, he should be hurting. If he wasn't, that would be the concern.

As you say, for me he's a safe pair of hands and if he stays we'll do alright - the question is do we want to move on or not.

I keep flip-flopping on this, but the reason I'm ultimately for not changing manager too soon is less to do with the positives of/faith in Wilder; it's far more the worry about who the Club will appoint next, given the complete clusterfuck with Selles in the Summer...

I do want us to move on from Wilder and did so last season BUT it's pretty evident a lot of things need to change at the club first before we think about moving on from Wilder. The whole structure at the club needs more modernising.

We keep dabbling with the likes of Slav and Selles but end up back where started with Wilder. Then to a lesser extent Hecky who just put the team back to how Wilder sort of had it.