Free kick, offside in our own half

[bertieblade]

Could anyone explain what I and others around me thought was a free kick for offside awarded against us when the offence was deemed to have taken place in our half.

 

[Blademan89]

Im glad someone highlighted this. That was the most ridiculous and bizarre thing ive ever seen in football.

Both officals just looked and just went yeah carry on.

Although the referee was letting Leicester take freekicks where ever they wanted all game.

***edit hands up i was wrong, on the first bit as highlighted by foxy. Last bit still stands.

 

[Gareth Kay]

Could anyone explain what I and others around me thought was a free kick for offside awarded against us when the offence was deemed to have taken place in our half.

Brooks was in their half but I've no idea if he was off or not. What confused the matter was them taking it 10 yards in our half

 

[ThatJa]

Ref absolutely got the dive bang on though, most would not have.

 

[jt64]

Is it not just offside is given at the point where the player becomes active, and someone ran back into their own half?

 

[Foxy]

Im glad someone highlighted this. That was the most ridiculous and bizarre thing ive ever seen in football.

Both officals just looked and just went yeah carry on.

Although the referee was letting Leicester take freekicks where ever they wanted all game.

Brooks was in their half but I've no idea if he was off or not. What confused the matter was them taking it 10 yards in our half

As shite as the officials were, it astounds me the number of people who insist you can’t concede a free kick for offside in your own half.

He was offside in the opponents half, he became active in ours, having run back.

Offside position vs offside offence.

 

[Kenilworth]

As shite as the officials were, it astounds me the number of people who insist you can’t concede a free kick for offside in your own half.

He was offside in the opponents half, he became active in ours, having run back.

Offside position vs offside offence.

I knew you could be offside in your own half - having run back from an offside position. However, I thought the free kick would have to be taken at the half way line, inside their half. That not the case?

 

[Blademan89]

As shite as the officials were, it astounds me the number of people who insist you can’t concede a free kick for offside in your own half.

He was offside in the opponents half, he became active in ours, having run back.

Well ive learnt something new today. I didnt know they gave the freekick where the player last touched it (in own half. In this instance).

Out of 1000s of games ive played from being young to old, semi pro to amateur, I never knew that .

 

[jt64]

I knew you could be offside in your own half - having run back from an offside position. However, I thought the free kick would have to be taken at the half way line, inside their half. That not the case?

Free kick would be given where the offence took place, same as any free kick

 

[Blademan89]

I knew you could be offside in your own half - having run back from an offside position. However, I thought the free kick would have to be taken at the half way line, inside their half. That not the case?

Its where the player comes into play. Just checked it myself.

 

[Gareth Kay]

As shite as the officials were, it astounds me the number of people who insist you can’t concede a free kick for offside in your own half.

He was offside in the opponents half, he became active in ours, having run back.

Offside position vs offside offence.

Yes offside but the free kick should've been taken from where he was offside from. They took it 10 yards in our half

 

[Eppyblade]

As shite as the officials were, it astounds me the number of people who insist you can’t concede a free kick for offside in your own half.

He was offside in the opponents half, he became active in ours, having run back.

Offside position vs offside offence.

Did not know that, never seen it before

 

[SuperSonicBlade89]

The free kick should actually take place on the halfway line. Had this happen in a match I played in many many years ago.

Unless things have changed, which no doubt they have done with all the Offside law tinkering.

 

[LBA_Blade]

Part 4 of Law 11 (offside)
If an offside offence occurs, the referee awards an indirect free kick where the offence occurred, including if it is in the player’s own half of the field of play.

https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-11---offside

 

[SuperSonicBlade89]

Who came up with you can't be Offside from a goal kick or throw in? Seems kind of silly that they arbitrarily apply to some things and not others.

Why not just get rid of offside from open play then? If you can be not Offside when the ball is static, which is probably more advantageous no?

 

[Harry's Game]

Could anyone explain what I and others around me thought was a free kick for offside awarded against us when the offence was deemed to have taken place in our half.

One of the most nuts things I’ve ever seen. The Perma tanned ref tonight was all over the place

 

[bertieblade]

Part 4 of Law 11 (offside)
If an offside offence occurs, the referee awards an indirect free kick where the offence occurred, including if it is in the player’s own half of the field of play.

https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-11---offside

Including if in The players own half of the field?

But he cannot be offside in his own half and subsequently the free kick should have been taken where the offence took place, I.e in the opponents half of the field, but then again it was never a free kick as he never became active as he never touched the ball.

 

[LBA_Blade]

Who came up with you can't be Offside from a goal kick or throw in? Seems kind of silly that they arbitrarily apply to some things and not others.

Why not just get rid of offside from open play then? If you can be not Offside when the ball is static, which is probably more advantageous no?

And corner has been in the Laws of the game for donkeys years. The offside law wouldn’t be as fair if anyone could actually know what was happening. It is written in a way that is so complex without VAR referees and their assistants can hide behind the Law. In reality it is impossible with a lot of the decisions simply because of either how far the ball has travelled (position when ball played) and how quick the modern day professional footballer is

 

[Harry's Game]

Who came up with you can't be Offside from a goal kick or throw in? Seems kind of silly that they arbitrarily apply to some things and not others.

Why not just get rid of offside from open play then? If you can be not Offside when the ball is static, which is probably more advantageous no?

You can’t be offside from a “play” for want of a better word, you can’t score directly from. So as you can’t legally score directly from a goal kick or throw in you can’t be offside from them either, since they abolished the indirect free kick from outside the penalty area it’s made it slightly more obtuse

 

[Balham]

One of the most nuts things I’ve ever seen. The Perma tanned ref tonight was all over the place

“Perma tanned”? Really?

 

[Beans]

Including if in The players own half of the field?

But he cannot be offside in his own half and subsequently the free kick should have been taken where the offence took place, I.e in the opponents half if the field, but then again it was never a free kick as he never became active as he never touched the ball.

He ran back from an offside position (in Leicester's half), and became "active" in ours by challenging for the ball. So freekick is given at the spot where the offence took place.

 

[LBA_Blade]

Including if in The players own half of the field?

But he cannot be offside in his own half and subsequently the free kick should have been taken where the offence took place, I.e in the opponents half of the field, but then again it was never a free kick as he never became active as he never touched the ball.

Yeah similar it’s confusing as hell but although technically the referee isn’t giving the free kick in our own half it was because Brooks was offside in their half and then interfered with play in our half the “offence” is given at the point of when Brooks becomes active which is why the free kick was given there. He doesn’t need to touch the ball to be offside either just be interfering or in vision of the opposition

 

[Gin&Juice]

can’t wait to randomly debate this on shoutbox in 4 months time!!

 

[LBA_Blade]

can’t wait to randomly debate this on shoutbox in 4 months time!!

If Wenger gets his way it be all change again in the summer!

 

[bertieblade]

Yeah similar it’s confusing as hell but although technically the referee isn’t giving the free kick in our own half it was because Brooks was offside in their half and then interfered with play in our half the “offence” is given at the point of when Brooks becomes active which is why the free kick was given there. He doesn’t need to touch the ball to be offside either just be interfering or in vision of the opposition

Good point re interfering or in vision of the opposition, I.e play off final second goal, even though Souza was not interfering.
Who needs VAR, when a lot of decisions are subject to interpretation of the law

 

[LBA_Blade]

Good point re interfering or in vision of the opposition, I.e play off final second goal, even though Souza was not interfering.
Who needs VAR, when a lot of decisions are subject to interpretation of the law

I am 100% positive it is written so grey so they can justify it on review. It’s like Mortgages or other complex finance products where you need an expert to do x y z so the “common folk” can’t do it themselves. In this case the fan is the “common folk”

 

[Scarebus]

Who needs VAR, when a lot of decisions are subject to interpretation of the law

Static laws applied in dynamic environments are always going to be somewhat subjective, but I'd like to think over a period of time most referees get a lot more right than they get wrong.

 

[Ned the Donkey]

Could anyone explain what I and others around me thought was a free kick for offside awarded against us when the offence was deemed to have taken place in our half.

Law 11 - Offside

IFAB Laws of the Game

www.thefa.com

 

[bertieblade]

Static laws applied in dynamic environments are always going to be somewhat subjective, but I'd like to think over a period of time most referees get a lot more right than they get wrong.

Agreed and subsequently why do we need VAR?

 

[bertieblade]

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Law 11 - Offside

IFAB Laws of the Game

www.thefa.com

Yet another law, which I cannot be arsed to find states that a player cannot be offside in his own half of the field