Conor Coady

[ScoobBlade]

Our Conor is starting for Liverpool tonight in a friendly against shamrock rovers, here's hoping he has a mare

 

[Balham]

Shaun Miller came on to score the winner in the following game against Fulham, so if he really wanted to play 4-4-2 he could have tried it more. Clough switched to 4-5-1 against Fulham and kept faith it for pretty much the full season. I think he realised the Coady-Scougall combination in midfield wasn't strong enough, while the 4-5-1 tried at Fulham gave us great solidity and effective counter attacking. He kept it in the next game - at home against Shrewsbury - and it became the second win in our ten game winning run.

I think Clough probably thought (rightly so, in my opinion) that Doyle - Scougall - Coady - Baxter was stronger than Doyle - Coady - Baxter - Porter. 4-5-1 plays to the strengths of all the central players mentioned with Doyle sitting, Baxter dropping off and Coady and Scougall making forward runs; 4-4-2 compromises three as it requires Doyle to get forward, Scougall/Coady to defend rather than break past Baxter.

 

[SandyMcBlade]

If we do get a striker wont this alter he whole dynamics of the team, where doe's he play Baxter, is he a shoe in for Coady or Doyle and if not who doe's he drop ?

 

[Derby_Blade]

If we do get a striker wont this alter he whole dynamics of the team, where doe's he play Baxter, is he a shoe in for Coady and if not who doe's he drop ?

Scougall dropping into Coady's position, Baxter into Scougalls position at CAM then single target man upfront? Can't see Clough changing his formation so just.a case of a striker coming in for Coady and everyone dropping back one I think. If we do keep Coady then drop Doyle as I feel we should be strong enough next season to be more attacking and not need a 'sweeper'

 

[blade too long]

mc nulty and crawley lad will fill in , think laterally#

 

[Pinchy]

Scougall dropping into Coady's position, Baxter into Scougalls position at CAM then single target man upfront? Can't see Clough changing his formation so just.a case of a striker coming in for Coady and everyone dropping back one I think. If we do keep Coady then drop Doyle as I feel we should be strong enough next season to be more attacking and not need a 'sweeper'

To assign midfielders to CAM and (presumably) CDM is to let them off half their job and rob the term 'midfielder' of any meaning.

It's the sort of approach that gives you ten years of Nick Montgomery.

 

[Bergen Blade]

To assign midfielders to CAM and (presumably) CDM is to let them off half their job and rob the term 'midfielder' of any meaning.

It's the sort of approach that gives you ten years of Nick Montgomery.

Didn't think much of McCall and Brown, did you?

 

[OllyBlade]

To assign midfielders to CAM and (presumably) CDM is to let them off half their job and rob the term 'midfielder' of any meaning.

It's the sort of approach that gives you ten years of Nick Montgomery.

I only half agree. Having a more clearly defined role can help players be consistent and develop relationships with other players, and they can perhaps play to their strengths. But within that you want the fluidity so that on occasion Michael Doyle, for example, pops up at the back post for a tap in as he did at Swindon. Maybe if you have other midfielders like Scougall and Coady who will naturally try to get forward it is good to have someone who can be relied on to provide defensive cover.

 

[billyblademan]

To assign midfielders to CAM and (presumably) CDM is to let them off half their job and rob the term 'midfielder' of any meaning.

It's the sort of approach that gives you ten years of Nick Montgomery.

Absolute horseshit. Doyle is a defensive midfielder, who is an effective anchor, and good at picking out runners when we're being countered. However, that's not to say that's all he does. He also hangs around the edge of the box when we're attaching, and scores the odd goal in doing so. Against Coventry, he actually had a header from 10 yards out, from open play. However - his role first and foremost is to break up play when it's beneficial, and for help us keep shape at the back.

Scougall - the team's attacking midfielder - is the link between midfield and attack. His predominant aim is to use his nimble feet, and creative skills to carve out opportunities. While he will also help out at the back, and contributes to us having control of the midfield area, he will be principally judged on assists + goals.

Coady is the natural CM, and has the engine to almost do both roles. That's why his form was so phenomenal in recent weeks - he seemed fitter than Farah. Plenty of bursts forward, while he was also sometimes on of the first back on opposition breaks.


All midfielders play their part, though. Jose is considering offloading Hazard because he's lazy, and switches off in defensive situations. Just because a player is 'attacking minded', that's not to say that he can be crap at the back. One must have both sides to their game - however they will have a main job to perform.

 

[JOEYDEE]

To assign midfielders to CAM and (presumably) CDM is to let them off half their job and rob the term 'midfielder' of any meaning.

It's the sort of approach that gives you ten years of Nick Montgomery.

shudders

 

[sitwell]

Absolute horseshit. Doyle is a defensive midfielder, who is an effective anchor, and good at picking out runners when we're being countered. However, that's not to say that's all he does. He also hangs around the edge of the box when we're attaching, and scores the odd goal in doing so. Against Coventry, he actually had a header from 10 yards out, from open play. However - his role first and foremost is to break up play when it's beneficial, and for help us keep shape at the back.

Scougall - the team's attacking midfielder - is the link between midfield and attack. His predominant aim is to use his nimble feet, and creative skills to carve out opportunities. While he will also help out at the back, and contributes to us having control of the midfield area, he will be principally judged on assists + goals.

Coady is the natural CM, and has the engine to almost do both roles. That's why his form was so phenomenal in recent weeks - he seemed fitter than Farah. Plenty of bursts forward, while he was also sometimes on of the first back on opposition breaks.


All midfielders play their part, though. Jose is considering offloading Hazard because he's lazy, and switches off in defensive situations. Just because a player is 'attacking minded', that's not to say that he can be crap at the back. One must have both sides to their game - however they will have a main job to perform.

Baxter is our Hazard.

 

[Tezza1889]

Look lads n lasses...

If w are going places, and if the prince is serious, we should have a really good shot at the lad, he might be a class above right now, but just stick with this as a concept....

We have aspirations to reach the premier league, if you believe the statements on the takeover.....

So why buy championship players when were in the championship??

Let's buy championship/ real prospects now...

Coady fits this like a glove, let's take the hit early on class and talent and by the time we have reached the champ, they will have bedded in and be ready for the step up...

Pay it now, guarantee a promotion, and a solid first year after, seems sensible to me...

Coady, brayford, and a hungry or proven striker...

Let's not just talk about it board members, money where your mouth is please...

 

[dublin 10 blade]

Our Conor is starting for Liverpool tonight in a friendly against shamrock rovers, here's hoping he has a mare

They won ( Liverpool ) 4-0 , had a quiet game , young striker up front was very good for pool , think he was on loan at Birmingham this year .
Didn't go brother in law went , well he is from Liverpool , said it was a shit game mostly reserves , Manu fans hired a plane with the slogan giggs 13 -- Gerard 0 . To fly over the stadium
Also yesterday our under 19 player , was playing for Ireland , Mexico beat them 3-0 .

 

[itsinyerblood]

Look lads n lasses...

If w are going places, and if the prince is serious, we should have a really good shot at the lad, he might be a class above right now, but just stick with this as a concept....

We have aspirations to reach the premier league, if you believe the statements on the takeover.....

So why buy championship players when were in the championship??

Let's buy championship/ real prospects now...

Coady fits this like a glove, let's take the hit early on class and talent and by the time we have reached the champ, they will have bedded in and be ready for the step up...

Pay it now, guarantee a promotion, and a solid first year after, seems sensible to me...

Coady, brayford, and a hungry or proven striker...

Let's not just talk about it board members, money where your mouth is please...

Love the sentiment Tezza, be careful though, that sort of thinking could become contagious UTB

 

[Pinchy]

Absolute horseshit. Doyle is a defensive midfielder, who is an effective anchor, and good at picking out runners when we're being countered. However, that's not to say that's all he does. He also hangs around the edge of the box when we're attaching, and scores the odd goal in doing so. Against Coventry, he actually had a header from 10 yards out, from open play. However - his role first and foremost is to break up play when it's beneficial, and for help us keep shape at the back.

Scougall - the team's attacking midfielder - is the link between midfield and attack. His predominant aim is to use his nimble feet, and creative skills to carve out opportunities. While he will also help out at the back, and contributes to us having control of the midfield area, he will be principally judged on assists + goals.

Coady is the natural CM, and has the engine to almost do both roles. That's why his form was so phenomenal in recent weeks - he seemed fitter than Farah. Plenty of bursts forward, while he was also sometimes on of the first back on opposition breaks.


All midfielders play their part, though. Jose is considering offloading Hazard because he's lazy, and switches off in defensive situations. Just because a player is 'attacking minded', that's not to say that he can be crap at the back. One must have both sides to their game - however they will have a main job to perform.

Thank you for that erudite lecture, young fellow. Come back when you've seen half as much football as I have and we'll have a chat, over a lager perhaps?

 

[Pinchy]

Look lads n lasses...

If w are going places, and if the prince is serious, we should have a really good shot at the lad, he might be a class above right now, but just stick with this as a concept....

We have aspirations to reach the premier league, if you believe the statements on the takeover.....

So why buy championship players when were in the championship??

Let's buy championship/ real prospects now...

Coady fits this like a glove, let's take the hit early on class and talent and by the time we have reached the champ, they will have bedded in and be ready for the step up...

Pay it now, guarantee a promotion, and a solid first year after, seems sensible to me...

Coady, brayford, and a hungry or proven striker...

Let's not just talk about it board members, money where your mouth is please...

Give 'em five minutes, eh?....

 

[Sheff de party]

Thank you for that erudite lecture, young fellow. Come back when you've seen half as much football as I have and we'll have a chat, over a lager perhaps?

just how old are you Pinchy?

 

[Pinchy]

just how old are you Pinchy?

You never ask a lady that question....

 

[billyblademan]

Thank you for that erudite lecture, young fellow. Come back when you've seen half as much football as I have and we'll have a chat, over a lager perhaps?

Would you prefer all round central midfielders, a la Coady, then Pinchy? Not a dig, genuine question. I tend to have in my head that one should be defensive, the other more attacking - although they should be able to perform a bit in their 'other role'.

Secondly, ale not lager, but I never turn down a pub invitation!

 

[billyblademan]

Baxter is our Hazard.

And I'd get rid of Baxter, or at least, I wouldn't have him in the first XI next season - although I know that isn't a popular opinion (I received 342 death threats through the post after saying something similar on Blades Mad.)

 

[grafikhaus]

Baxter is our Hazard.

And Scougall is our Rakitic. (Sevilla playmaker in last night's UEFA Final). The similarities were uncanny.

 

[Sheff de party]

And I'd get rid of Baxter, or at least, I wouldn't have him in the first XI next season - although I know that isn't a popular opinion (I received 342 death threats through the post after saying something similar on Blades Mad.)

Madness. He's our most talented player.

 

[metty]

And I'd get rid of Baxter, or at least, I wouldn't have him in the first XI next season - although I know that isn't a popular opinion (I received 342 death threats through the post after saying something similar on Blades Mad.)

Now I know you're a bullshitter, there aren't 342 members of BM who can write

 

[billyblademan]

Where would you play him?

Madness. He's our most talented player.

 

[billyblademan]

Now I know you're a bullshitter, there aren't 342 members of BM who can write

Some were horses heads.

 

[Pinchy]

Would you prefer all round central midfielders, a la Coady, then Pinchy? Not a dig, genuine question. I tend to have in my head that one should be defensive, the other more attacking - although they should be able to perform a bit in their 'other role'.

Secondly, ale not lager, but I never turn down a pub invitation!

Actually I pretty much agree with everything you said in response to my earlier post. That's why I was rather taken aback by your opening remark. It's my fault, I didn't make myself clear. A good writer never blames his readership.

I don't usually unearth my ancient ramblings (I think it very self-indulgent) but in May 2010, I wrote:

"The best midfielders attack and defend, maybe they favour one discipline but they can do both and the best teams have an attacking midfielder who also puts his foot in complemented by a more defensive player who can play a bit as well. Some Blades have written a special job description which exempts Monty from all but the most basic requirements of a decent midfielder. A few of us are not so easily pleased [or fooled]."

....and in January 2014:

I used to play in central midfield. My job was to both attack and defend. I would have received some very strange looks and even worse language had I said, "I'm not going forward - I'm a DM" or "Tackle their ball player? Me? Fuck Off! I'm an AM".

It's bollocks, especially at this level. Two skilful, creative, hard working, up and down the pitch, central midfielders please. One can be more attack minded and the other a little more robust but I'm afraid your role is midfielder - the clue is in the title. Anyone wanting to do half a job need not apply. Sorry, Monty, that includes you, as I've told you a thousand times.

I've expressed those same sentiments many times before and since. These artificial designations are too rigid. It's about talented players, working together. Luckily, we finally have a manager who knows that.

Leaving aside the now redundant "Monty" debate, that's just about in line with your thinking isn't it?

Addendum: I'm pleased to hear of your social drinking preference. I'll send you a RAPFA application form.

 

[Chris Wood]

They won ( Liverpool ) 4-0 , had a quiet game , young striker up front was very good for pool , think he was on loan at Birmingham this year .
Didn't go brother in law went , well he is from Liverpool , said it was a shit game mostly reserves , Manu fans hired a plane with the slogan giggs 13 -- Gerard 0 . To fly over the stadium
Also yesterday our under 19 player , was playing for Ireland , Mexico beat them 3-0 .

Strange how different people see things - I asked how Coady played on Liverpool FC Twitter and got the following reply from an academy coach 'at ease on the ball looked like he was smoking a cigar with 2 players around him tonight.' and that was after he'd independently posted 'Conor Coady was class' in reply to their MoM requests

 

[dublin 10 blade]

And I'd get rid of Baxter, or at least, I wouldn't have him in the first XI next season - although I know that isn't a popular opinion (I received 342 death threats through the post after saying something similar on Blades Mad.)

Billy your a Bladesman ,you'll always be a Bladesman , but never ever take sides against the Baxman again .
you'll be sleeping with the fishes next time .
Capish .

 

[Sheff de party]

Where would you play him?

Well he's short and not very fast, so not up top on his own. I appreciate why he's been asked to play there while we have no decent strikers, but I expect that to rectified shortly.

Behind the striker/s. I'd imagine it'll be a free role behind one striker, with Doyle and Scougall in midfield. Baxter, in my opinion, is the most imaginative player we have. He's very creative, very clever and puts the ball wherever it needs to be. He's a luxury at times, he drifts (needs to be fitter) but I do think we need him to unlock teams that will invariably park the bus next year.

Behind a quick poacher, I think he'll thrive. I just hope it's not Ched.

 

[Sheff de party]

Actually I pretty much agree with everything you said in response to my earlier post. That's why I was rather taken aback by your opening remark. It's my fault, I didn't make myself clear. A good writer never blames his readership.

I don't usually unearth my ancient ramblings (I think it very self-indulgent) but in May 2010, I wrote:

"The best midfielders attack and defend, maybe they favour one discipline but they can do both and the best teams have an attacking midfielder who also puts his foot in complemented by a more defensive player who can play a bit as well. Some Blades have written a special job description which exempts Monty from all but the most basic requirements of a decent midfielder. A few of us are not so easily pleased [or fooled]."

....and in January 2014:

I used to play in central midfield. My job was to both attack and defend. I would have received some very strange looks and even worse language had I said, "I'm not going forward - I'm a DM" or "Tackle their ball player? Me? Fuck Off! I'm an AM".

It's bollocks, especially at this level. Two skilful, creative, hard working, up and down the pitch, central midfielders please. One can be more attack minded and the other a little more robust but I'm afraid your role is midfielder - the clue is in the title. Anyone wanting to do half a job need not apply. Sorry, Monty, that includes you, as I've told you a thousand times.

I've expressed those same sentiments many times before and since. These artificial designations are too rigid. It's about talented players, working together. Luckily, we finally have a manager who knows that.

Leaving aside the now redundant "Monty" debate, that's just about in line with your thinking isn't it?

Addendum: I'm pleased to hear of your social drinking preference. I'll send you a RAPFA application form.

I take it that excludes Doyle then?