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... If the Selles era had never existed. We might have been climbing back in to the top 2 last night, hoping for a draw in S6 going to keep us above Middlesborough.
That said, we sign need players who Wilder might not have had in his vrossjairs who look like they're starting to gel as a team. I think with some obvious twiddling in January (NOTE TO CW: START LOOKING NOW!) we could readily do a Forest and hit the play offs running.

Thoughts?
 

... If the Selles era had never existed. We might have been climbing back in to the top 2 last night, hoping for a draw in S6 going to keep us above Middlesborough.
That said, we sign need players who Wilder might not have had in his vrossjairs who look like they're starting to gel as a team. I think with some obvious twiddling in January (NOTE TO CW: START LOOKING NOW!) we could readily do a Forest and hit the play offs running.

Thoughts?
The commentators on Sky said he’s already submitted his list for January.
 
Unfortunately we can't undo the mistake made in June in firing Wilder and replacing him with someone so far out of his depth.

Also the damage done by the summers recruitment will likely last for years as unless an amazing and unlikely play off win happens the budget will be slashed massively.
 
I only wanted you to imagine where things might be without the Sellers era, not openly v explore your auyogynaphilia for the world to read 😏
 
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Unfortunately next season will be tougher than this season… if we stay up we need to expect mid table obscurity
 
Now it’s quite difficult to be too confident in a team that has shown how bad its low point can be, but bare with me.

If ever there was a season when the crowds might part, Moses style, as they did for Delboy in the Peckham riots (!) then this seems to be the season.

At this point there is time. There is a lot of traffic in front of us. But time to overtake.

You need to see plenty of teams who you can take as many as 6 points from.

Despite already playing to and losing to Ipswich and Saints, it hasn’t overly hampered us. Both are within range. Leicester a little further afield but expected to be hit by a Sellés debilitating points deduction at some point.

So early favourites are not insurmountable.

Coventry seem to have the wind in their sails and as every seasoned Championship watcher knows, not buggering about and going again often leads to going one better next time around. If only our COH lot had listened to Benjamin Bloom.

The rest however, I’m not convinced with any of them. Even when we were abject, Boro only scraped by us for instance.

What we need is momentum. Momentum and then luck with injuries. Then a good January window.

Build on these last two wins against a slightly shaky Preston and a beatable Derby.

Then hopefully the likes of Hamer, Davies, Arblaster and Chong arrive into a winning team and can show themselves as differentiators.

Get to January and fix the obvious deficiencies and there is an opportunity for a team to lose few matches between now and the end of the season. Whether we are capable is an open question at this point, as when we are bad, we are very very bad.

But I don’t aee a really outstanding team apart from Coventry at the moment and if we can get back into the groove of edging games against the plentiful supply of bang average teams then who knows?

I don’t see a 100 point team there and in fact apart from possibly Coventry I can see the second spot going to a team that doesn’t get much over 80 points.

November and December are really key. Get a very good haul on the back of the recent feel good factor and the January window may well come at the perfect time.

O’Hare has stepped up of late. So has Brooks. So has McCallum. Burrows did last night. It’s time for those feeling sorry for themselves to shake it off and put some very average sides to the sword.

Normally you don’t get such a margin of error but I reckon this season will be competitive in a good sense with plenty of teams bunched together which will mean the opportunity is there.
 
Now it’s quite difficult to be too confident in a team that has shown how bad its low point can be, but bare with me.

If ever there was a season when the crowds might part, Moses style, as they did for Delboy in the Peckham riots (!) then this seems to be the season.

At this point there is time. There is a lot of traffic in front of us. But time to overtake.

You need to see plenty of teams who you can take as many as 6 points from.

Despite already playing to and losing to Ipswich and Saints, it hasn’t overly hampered us. Both are within range. Leicester a little further afield but expected to be hit by a Sellés debilitating points deduction at some point.

So early favourites are not insurmountable.

Coventry seem to have the wind in their sails and as every seasoned Championship watcher knows, not buggering about and going again often leads to going one better next time around. If only our COH lot had listened to Benjamin Bloom.

The rest however, I’m not convinced with any of them. Even when we were abject, Boro only scraped by us for instance.

What we need is momentum. Momentum and then luck with injuries. Then a good January window.

Build on these last two wins against a slightly shaky Preston and a beatable Derby.

Then hopefully the likes of Hamer, Davies, Arblaster and Chong arrive into a winning team and can show themselves as differentiators.

Get to January and fix the obvious deficiencies and there is an opportunity for a team to lose few matches between now and the end of the season. Whether we are capable is an open question at this point, as when we are bad, we are very very bad.

But I don’t aee a really outstanding team apart from Coventry at the moment and if we can get back into the groove of edging games against the plentiful supply of bang average teams then who knows?

I don’t see a 100 point team there and in fact apart from possibly Coventry I can see the second spot going to a team that doesn’t get much over 80 points.

November and December are really key. Get a very good haul on the back of the recent feel good factor and the January window may well come at the perfect time.

O’Hare has stepped up of late. So has Brooks. So has McCallum. Burrows did last night. It’s time for those feeling sorry for themselves to shake it off and put some very average sides to the sword.

Normally you don’t get such a margin of error but I reckon this season will be competitive in a good sense with plenty of teams bunched together which will mean the opportunity is there.
Definitely a much tighter field than last season, and if we can find some consistency that could play in our favour. Personally I don't think any of the relegated Prem teams are troubling the top 2.

Where your argument lost me was "luck with injuries", something we have never historically had going all the way back to Dane Whitehouse.
 
Unless we sign another good forward in January we can forget about anything higher than mid table. Campbell and Ings are both incapable of doing 90 mins, Cannon is awful and One seems to have disappeared. You dont challenge the top 6 with a forward line like that.
 
If the average Rumour Mill poster did the recruitment and even managed the team we'd be at least 6th. It was so fucking easy and obvious
There were clearly opportunities there to recruit astutely while spending little on fees.

Without a formation change:
Dunne would have fixed right back
Darling would have replaced Anel
Mee would have improved on Robbo
Riedewald has already shown as an option to fill the Souza gap.
Ings would have looked even more handy with a full pre-season
McBurnie would have come for Wilder.

Even cashing in on Moore, Anel and Souza sees you sat on about 20m+ of fees to fund that.

I’m not for one minute suggesting all the above are signing for chocolate buttons but you’d have a capable defence, a ready made midfield replacement and know how in attack and wouldn’t have been lavishing 5-7m on centre backs to Millwall and Luton or panic spending on midfielders from Chelsea, not to mention the clearly too much too soon loans of Barry and Bindon.
 

A "team" totally bereft of any confidence thinking they'd lose the next match. The ball a hot potato and the legs feel heavy like you're playing through treacle.
That's what a long losing streak feels like.
Sack the manager who got you 92 points and bar a dodgy bar decision even United would've been in the Prem. But no, it was apparently all down to Sunderland having a DOF etc. that won it.
Hopefully the confidence of two successive wins can lift us to within PO range soon and then January is the key but to be honest Wilder's return was/is the key.
I reckon a big b........ CF will top the January list.

But, a word of warning - never again let Wilder splash the cash. I'd set his limit at 3- 5million - history tells us he's pretty good at spotting bargains/frees for that money but any more than that (arguably McBurnie aside) well, it doesn't work out too well.
That said, I wouldn't write off our current boo boy yet. His confidence is shot. He needs to play off a big holding CF - and we ain't got one (probably thanks to Selles).
 
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The result papered over the cracks last night.
Think you might be jumping the gun.
Hope I’m wrong, suspect I’m not.
 
We won't get new players until January and it will probably be too late then.

Best case scenario - end of Nov we have Blaster, Hamer, T Davies, Chong up for selection. Still short of a striker though. Selling Moore was a bad move.
Selling Moore was a good move, replacing him was the answer, which they never did! And now we're paying the price!
 
Wilder is averaging 1.5 points a game, if he'd done that over all 11 games, we would be on 16-17 points, so between 8th and 10th and 1-2 points off the play offs.

Obviously, he might have done better as he wouldn't have had to repair the utter drop in confidence after 5 defeats and 1 goal.
 
Definitely a much tighter field than last season, and if we can find some consistency that could play in our favour. Personally I don't think any of the relegated Prem teams are troubling the top 2.

Where your argument lost me was "luck with injuries", something we have never historically had going all the way back to Dane Whitehouse.
…all the way back to Dave Powell..
 
Although relatively early doors yet, by taking the boring approach of one game at a time, we can easily climb the table. 11 points off autos (game in hand though) and 9 points off playoffs, one of them could easily be done over the remainder of the season. Looking up to the Premier League, next season championship could get almost impossible currently 3 points separates the relegation zone from Fulham, Leeds and Burnley with Forest, West Ham and Wolves in it. Adding to Southampton, Leicester and Ipswich with continued parachute money (non of them in the playoffs currently) it will be a very competitive league. If it is only for a season we want to be playing at the "big boys table" then the remainder of this season is a must. In theory 102 points still to be had, if we got half that which isn't unrealistic given a course of a season, last season we would have been 12th. It's closing that gap, especially when an extra 9 points that season would have seen us in 6th and in the playoffs.
 
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The result papered over the cracks last night.
Think you might be jumping the gun.
Hope I’m wrong, suspect I’m not.
I see the current progression as Wilder taking a pot of Polyfilla to sort out a short term problem before he can get the proper builders in, in January.

The previous cowboy and his possee shit all over the bed.
 
If you'd watched the first half, you'd understand why those messages were entirely relevant. Second half (especially after subs) was like a different team, so is it really surprising that the comments changed?
Aye, the "Hindsight Committee" have had a meeting and have decided that everyone's a fanny.

The previous results/performances having nothing to do with people's judgement at all.............
 
The commentators on Sky said he’s already submitted his list for January.
I've heard that a few times. From Wilder I think as well, but how can he?
How does he know who's available? How can he possibly say "send Godfrey back and get Souttar" when he's no idea what t'old slab head will be like by then? Even with the outward loans, Soumare and McCallum have pushed their way into the team in 2 weeks, how do we know Matos and Barry might not in the next 3 months as well?
 
... If the Selles era had never existed. We might have been climbing back in to the top 2 last night, hoping for a draw in S6 going to keep us above Middlesborough.
That said, we sign need players who Wilder might not have had in his vrossjairs who look like they're starting to gel as a team. I think with some obvious twiddling in January (NOTE TO CW: START LOOKING NOW!) we could readily do a Forest and hit the play offs running.

Thoughts?
105 points available ? Why not get them all ? If wilder achieves promotion from the start we've had I'll be the first to kiss his statue in the car park. ( because he'll deserve one)
And most of you know my feelings about him . But whilst he's in charge I'll back him even if I don't agree with him.
 

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