CONFIRMED Chris Wilder 3.0 - Returns for the third spell.

[FATTYFOULKE]

When Wilder walked out on us the first time I found it very difficult to forgive and forget during his 2nd stint.

Selles has made me re-appreciate him though. He gets United and one thing is for sure, he’ll sort out this team.

Still think we need to think long term though, we can’t rely on Wilder forever so I’d like to see some sort of long term plan, someone put in place as part of his team with an eye on the future to succeed him (Montgomery?)

Whatever happens, whether he comes back or not, Selles had to go. Almost anyone would be an improvement on him. Saying that I wish him the best for the future. Nice bloke in the wrong job at the wrong club at the wrong time.

PS the owners have a lot to answer for, they’ve screwed this season up and they only have themselves to blame. But at least they have the balls (hopefully) to put the clubs interest at heart in front of themselves saving face by going back to Wilder.

Welcome back Chris Wilder if indeed you are on your way back.

 

[HarryHaslam]

So poxy wilder gets a tin pot team at home first game to grab an easy 3 points. Pity it wasn't against the likes of Norwich, Boro or West Brom to put wilder to the sword, so the crowd could chant 'getting sacked in the morning "

Absolutely fucking love these tears

 

[adiosmiamigo]

Has one person ever milked so much from a club after one successful stint? He’s effectively getting paid twice by us now, a compensation package now a new contract, yet some laud him as the second, well third, coming.

92 points last season masks the fact that most games we could’ve lost 1-0, we had a horrendous record against the top teams and still managed to bottle autos and the playoffs.

The question shouldn’t be is CW coming back, it should be why hasn’t he gone anywhere else?

What a way to divide further an already divided fan base.

Oh well, at least he’ll beat Charlton and thump his chest in front of the Kop.

I don't think he'll get paid twice,apparently he will continue with the original contract.He was getting paid in monthly sums.

 

[Silky Sabella]

The only saving grace is that when wilder gets sacked again there will NEVER be a fourth time !

 

[deplorable]

So poxy wilder gets a tin pot team at home first game to grab an easy 3 points. Pity it wasn't against the likes of Norwich, Boro or West Brom to put wilder to the sword, so the crowd could chant 'getting sacked in the morning "

I am not worried about the likes of Norwich, Boro or West Brom TBH, Ipswich, Leicester and Southampton are the ones with prem quality that can hurt you on their day. The others are not really any different than us, in my opinion.

 

[diode_blade]

When Chris walks onto training ground tomorrow morning

 

[andy m]

Absolutely fucking love these tears

So salty.

 

[Silky Sabella]

I am not worried about the likes of Norwich, Boro or West Brom TBH, Ipswich, Leicester and Southampton are the ones with prem quality that can hurt you on their day. The others are not really any different than us, in my opinion.

Fair comment

 

[Nedski]

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[S64 Blade]

I'm ok with him coming back if things are put in place with a view to the future. If he's coming back to just plaster over the structural faults of the club the I'll be extremely deflated by his return.

Coming in to steady the ship whilst the board make changes is a sound move. Bringing him to be the saviour again like The Prince tried is thoroughly depressing.

This!

 

[Andy67]

---------------Cooper-------------

----Tanganga--Mee--McGuiness----

Ogbene--Peck--Soumare--Burrows

------Hamer-------------Barry--------

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I’d be surprised if Barry gets anywhere near the first 11

 

[Nade]

I'd say it's about level after he let a couple of hundred mill slip through his fingers twice last season

You are aware that Sunderland also wanted to win?

 

[PrestwichBlade]

You are aware that Sunderland also wanted to win?

The only team that did in the second half

 

[metalblade]

At least we have moved on from Warnock. Now when it goes tits up it is go get Wilder back.

 

[Derek1889]

Heard today from someone close to club not saying names ect wilder is a done deal

 

[Andy67]

He won’t be getting paid twice. The compensation for losing his job is normally only paid until he takes another job. It just so happens that job is with us.

Not true, if a club pays you off and you get a job at another club then the agreement is not void, however I would expect if it is the same club you’d renegotiate

 

[AWetFlannel]

It's more the "promotion or not" so lacking in ambition

Whether we get promoted or not depends on factors outside our control. Our points tally would've got us promoted in most seasons.

It's ridiculous to hail someone as a genius hero for getting promotion with 80-90 points, but call someone a clueless, bottleless loser for getting 92 points and finishing third.

 

[harrry1990s]

All I’m interested in is whether they’ll be a giant Chris Wilder banner before the game on Saturday, hopefully with Chris painted over Reuben.

 

[PrestwichBlade]

Whether we get promoted or not depends on factors outside our control. Our points tally would've got us promoted in most seasons.

It's ridiculous to hail someone as a genius hero for getting promotion with 80-90 points, but call someone a clueless, bottleless loser for getting 92 points and finishing third.

It's a results business at the end of the day and we didn't do enough

 

[thehet]

If it were down to me, then I’d be telling Chris Wilder that his over-riding priority for the remainder of this season is to get us promoted.

And if I was Wilder I'd be asking what planet you're living on after sacking me 4 months ago and seeing us waste an entire pre-season and lose the first 5 games where we don't even look like we have 11 players on the pitch, let alone score a goal or scrape a draw.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

We've become the footballing equivalent of that annoying couple we all know who split up and get back together again every weekend.

Someone walks in boozer and says, "Have you heard, Dave and Lauren are back together again".

"Oh for fucksake".

 

[nopigfansintown]

So poxy wilder gets a tin pot team at home first game to grab an easy 3 points. Pity it wasn't against the likes of Norwich, Boro or West Brom to put wilder to the sword, so the crowd could chant 'getting sacked in the morning "

The pigs are crying already

 

[1066blade]

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Cycle of life innit?

 

[AWetFlannel]

It's a results business at the end of the day and we didn't do enough

But we did more than we did the last time Wilder got us promoted, the results were better.

One is ultimately successful and the other is ultimately not, but to call Wilder a genius for one and inept for the other is just simple.

 

[Silky Sabella]

The pigs are crying already

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[Bergen Blade]

What is a DOF? Most successful clubs have one, but they come in a whole range of shapes and sizes.
Would I give him full control over expenditure? Of course not. If we are to deliver the Board vision of becoming an established Premier League team, then I would expect that we will need to spend on a scale exceeding anything in our history, and it would be irresponsibly stupid to invest full control of this expenditure in a single individual.

The problem that we have is an almost complete lack of the necessary corporate infrastructure required to deliver our aspiration. That needs to be addressed quickly. Simply changing managers will not achieve this. Chris wilder is a demonstrated key talent within the SUFC organisation, and so I would be asking myself the question as to how best to utilise and develop him as an individual in service both of his own success and that of the overall enterprise.

If it were down to me, then I’d be telling Chris Wilder that his over-riding priority for the remainder of this season is to get us promoted. Nothing else. Revenue growth is a critical driver underpinning our ambitions, and we are in our final year of parachute payments. I would have structured his short term remuneration to heavily reflect this focus.

Beyond that, I would be asking myself what his key strengths are, and how they could align with a more senior role. I’d also be wanting to involve him in generating the space and support to develop into a more senior job. Ideally, this would involve him in identifying and recruiting potential successors to him in his current job, as part of the development of his own support team.
Critical existing strengths that I would want to build into a more senior role for him over time include:

• mentorship and man management
• youth and talent development, player pipeline management
• working his influence network across football. Contrary to the views of the many pearl clutchers on this forum, he is very well respected in footballing circles, as evidenced by the preparedness of major clubs to trust us in development of key talents through loan moves. This is a very valuable quality that we need to exploit.
• strengthening the identity of the club, and the connection between the supporters, the players, the club and the Board. I would seek to build his relationship with the Board asap, to help fill the current glaring gap in communication. He can bring us all together like very few can.
• setting strategic direction for style of play, as part of a team charged with this responsibility.

In terms of his areas where he’s OK but needs more development, I’d be thinking about things like recruitment and talent identification ( and the spending of money associated with this). As a start to this, I’d want to involve him in creating a team that brings together best practice in the diversity of approaches needed. The days of individuals, including him, making unilateral calls ( if this indeed has happened) need to be over if we are to achieve our ambition.

I hope this illustrates to you my belief that there is clear scope for a more senior long term role for Wilder, potentially at Boardroom level. From ballboy to Board Room at the Club that he’s loved all his life - I think he would kill for that. If he wasn’t prepared to show the humility to accept that some of his skills need strengthening, and the personal flexibility to achieve this, then I would ask him to focus exclusively on the short tern need for promotion. Then I would sack him at the end of the season, using this forward knowledge to make appropriate adjustments of judgements in recruitment of other members of the leadership team, as well as to the identity of his successor.

Good post. I wonder if Selles may have done a bit better if he had some good advice regarding the group of players he inherited.

I think the club, and probably Selles too, looked at the points we got last season and thought the players would be a) good enough and b) versatile enough to carry out Selles' "modern" tactics. But we lost 10 or 11 senior players over the summer and there were big gaps in a poorly balanced squad, as we prepared and started the season. Several players have weaknesses which become especially problematic if the roles they are given and the players around them aren't ideal. Signings were then made, but Selles still seemed to assess players poorly and selected teams that were lacking in too many areas.

Things like that is where a DoF should come in and influence the current manager.

 

[1066blade]

If we get Wilder back i’d be done with this club. Absolutely tin pot.

Bye bye knob

 

[PrestwichBlade]

But we did more than we did the last time Wilder got us promoted, the results were better.

One is ultimately successful and the other is ultimately not, but to call Wilder a genius for one and inept for the other is just simple.

It's a fair point, but I just don't think you can compare seasons like that, you have to do what you have to do in each particular season. Unfortunately last season the style, the tactics, the fine margins in games meant when push came to shove in the key games, we were found wanting.

 

[loveWalrusDaveTheBlade]

And if I was Wilder I'd be asking what planet you're living on after sacking me 4 months ago and seeing us waste an entire pre-season and lose the first 5 games where we don't even look like we have 11 players on the pitch, let alone score a goal or scrape a draw.

Planet Earth.
The Board have completely messed up the summer, and need to eat some humble pie. They need to honest with Wilder that they’ve made a big mistake.
The squad is, in my opinion, good enough to make the play off positions from here, and those still with us from last season show some evidence of being fitter as a result of this preseason than the last. Wilder knows many of the players, and will have been watching us intently over the preseason and the season so far, just like most of the rest of us. He knows the division well. He will know a lot about many of the new recruits. He can hit the ground running.
Yes it’s a big ask to get promoted from this position, but it’s a very long way from impossible. He’s being rerecruited as only one of a few for whom this might be a reasonable ask. I’m certainly not ready to wave the white flag on this season already, and I very much doubt that Wilder is.

 

[Upton_Blade]

Not true, if a club pays you off and you get a job at another club then the agreement is not void, however I would expect if it is the same club you’d renegotiate

Completely incorrect!