How (un)popular would a Wilder return be?

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If you were offered wilder back tomorrow, would you take it?

  • Yes

    Votes: 503 71.0%

  • No

    Votes: 205 29.0%
  • Total voters
    708

Very happy. I do however think it'd be a big mistake on his part. He should've left well alone last time and moved on after the first Prem season after foolishly staying after Championship season one (although against all odds that worked out well). If last season hasn't shown him that people will never be satisfied he's a dreamer. Past history suggests if he's offered it he'll accept.
 
blades_95 said:
Bringing Wilder back would be a short term fix. Results will improve (they have to) maybe we push for top 6, but do we not end up in exactly the same position? Wilder’s done as much as he can with us, we know his limits.

It’s ridiculous to think only one manager can manage this club & group of players. Selles is clearly not up to it, but that doesn’t mean only Wilder is.
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Wilder is the second most successful manager in the country with the budgets he had in the Prem. Dyche is first. So his limit is the second highest with those resources. So it's Dyche, Wilder or a total gamble ala Selles. The parachutes run out this year and promotion is already unlikely. We'd then need a promotion with a mediocre/poor budget. Know any manager's that have achieved that?
 
His second effort was much better than I thought it'd be, I wouldn't have sacked him in the summer, but it'd be ridiculous to go back to him now, a few of the new signings suit Wilder's style but a lot of them don't, and bringing him back would go against all the valid reasons for getting rid of him in the first place.

Having him as director of football would be even worse, nobody would be able to manage the team effectively with Wilder lurking in the background.
 
Working Class Hero said:
No manager that's available to us is ever likely to achieve anything more than that, unless we find some billionaire owners/investors. In fact, the only person that has even come close in these modern, money orientated times, is Chris Wilder.

We probably need to be a yo-yo team first, and then try to break in to the Premier League. We were part way down that path until a couples of months ago, and most people would back Wilder as having a better chance than most to at least continue that process in the short term. We're currently an absolute shambles going in completely the opposite direction! If we pick any available manager at the moment, there is a much higher chance that we end up being stuck in the Championship for years, rather than getting to the Premier League. If we stick with Selles, League One is the most likely destination.
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With Selles League 1 would be a certainty
 
Not voting: agnostic.

I was in favour of the change this summer (Wilder leaving, that is—I knew nothing about Selles) and I still don’t think Wilder can take us to the next level. He is a very good manager at Championship level.

It would be a bit mad and depressing to go back to him after 5 games but maybe it’s what we need at the moment. We probably can’t afford to take another risk at this stage.
 
PrestwichBlade said:
Fabulous. If that's the limit of your expectations, then crack on, gerrim back
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I get your point of view, and others who see it as a backwards step.....BUT...we are in trouble and we can't afford another gamble appointment that may end up the same as Sellers. Wilder will bring the squad together, will get results and may even make the season a success. I can't see any other managers who will almost guarantee at least a stress free season end. The rolling contract with big bonuses is an interesting call.
 
Blade56 said:
Fecking embarrassing for club if they bring him back again.

How bad would it have to be to get shut a fourth time.

Absolute joke they are considering it and unprofessional talking about it before they’ve cleaned up their latest mess by clarifying Sellés situation.

Feckin armatures trying to flip a fast buck
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He's already Mr Sheffield United. If they ask him back he will be bigger than the club and that's dangerous.
 
It’s embarrassing for the owners but if he’s the best option to rescue this tram crash of a season I’ll accept that.
I always felt he should have been given another year but was happy to back Selles if he could bring a change of style and win games. There’s no evidence that he can turn this round so he needs to go. I’m still slightly nervous about Wilder coming back yet again though.
 

South Sea Blade said:
I get your point of view, and others who see it as a backwards step.....BUT...we are in trouble and we can't afford another gamble appointment that may end up the same as Sellers. Wilder will bring the squad together, will get results and may even make the season a success. I can't see any other managers who will almost guarantee at least a stress free season end. The rolling contract with big bonuses is an interesting call.
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How quaint
 
Shawy24 said:
I’d go for 23k and a very hostile atmosphere for Selles. Morgue would describe the place he and his assistants will be in following the game. ((Obviously not literally)
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It’s impossible to be as low as 23K. With ST holders always included in the crowd the lowest we can have is 25K.

We haven’t played Charlton for a while so they’ll come very close to filling the away end.

Even with Selles will still be 26K to 27K minimum.
Do agree that if Selles is still manager it will be pretty toxic.
No doubt they’ll be a few Blades wanting Charlton to score so he’s more likely to be sacked.
 
I’d have him. I don’t think it will be a good long term move and I think there’d be massive clashes about the signings between him and whoever is in charge of that side of things nowadays but he’d stabilise and get us top half this season. That’s the best we can hope for now.
 
Houston_Blade said:
I’d have him. I don’t think it will be a good long term move and I think there’d be massive clashes about the signings between him and whoever is in charge of that side of things nowadays but he’d stabilise and get us top half this season. That’s the best we can hope for now.
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Agree but the point is we cant look long term at the moment, we need someone to steady the ship right now!
 
Houston_Blade said:
I’d have him. I don’t think it will be a good long term move and I think there’d be massive clashes about the signings between him and whoever is in charge of that side of things nowadays but he’d stabilise and get us top half this season. That’s the best we can hope for now.
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Considering some of the signings clearly led by the board maybe he's right? The two younger "Data" lads aren't ahead of what we already have in the u21s imo ukaki is the next to leave like Jeff too I suspect.
 
VictoryBlade said:
Agree but the point is we cant look long term at the moment, we need someone to steady the ship right now!
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He’s a viable option for 3 years if he doesn’t throw his toys out the pram and keep asking for a new contract every time he has a few wins. We’d be a top 6 championship team in 3 years time with him in charge so we’d be no worse off than last season. We’d probably waste some money on transfers and he’d find a few gems. I’d take this instead of the other options available,
 
Bladeaway said:
Genuine question. If you were offered wilder back tomorrow, would you take it?

I think it’s extremely unlikely to happen, and it is clearly quite a polarising issue. I’m interested to see in the poll just exactly how unpopular it would be.

I was pretty shocked when he was sacked. The football wasn’t pleasing to watch. But given the situation he inherited it was effective and I think surprised most of us with such a serious promotion challenge.

Personally, I thought it was the wrong decision to sack him - it was a season too early. We could have had another season of much the same, and another real chance at promotion. Now - who knows what - but promotion already seems to be a dream and most of us are looking the other way. The worst part for me is that we seem to have squandered a parachute payment season. This is such a huge advantage, that to throw it away like this is a disaster. Wilder certainly isn’t perfect, but would have given us a strong chance. Now, it’s highly likely we’ll end up just being “another championship team” from next season onwards. It would’ve made much more sense to go for a whole new approach / big shakeup after the parachute money dried up, not in the middle of it.

To me, taking wilder back would be a “safe” option. He’d steady the ship. We wouldn’t go down. We might still mange a play-off challenge.

Anybody else would be more of a gamble. And a gamble when you’re already chasing your losses. But, if someone else was able to turn it around, this would likely be a better long-term outcome.

For the record my answer is a (somewhat begrudging) “yes”. But unless there’s a real dramatic change in the type of football, then I’d only want him this season to prevent a disaster and go again next season with a new approach.
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Right now he may be our only hope. Him or Dyche.
 
Berkshire Blade said:
Considering some of the signings clearly led by the board maybe he's right? The two younger "Data" lads aren't ahead of what we already have in the u21s imo ukaki is the next to leave like Jeff too I suspect.
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I think the AI signings lack any credibility. Ukaki is so small as to probably never ever be able to make it in the English leagues. It would only take a basic piece of research to realise this. When you fail at basic due diligence like this you can understand why experienced campaigner like Wilder might scoff at it, particularly if it’s his neck on the block with the signings
 

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