Not much luck against Wolves
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PeterNdlovu081
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Fuck all to do with luck. We haven't been good enough.
davidpinder
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chances falling to players who aren't out and out strikers thats the problem.
blader
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Beaten by a better side. No complaints, no good/bad luck, they're just a better side. Good luck to them, by far the best team in this division, with Brentford 2nd IMO. I feared inflated expectations may creep in, Clough has always been building towards next season, and now he can with absolutely no expectation of a top 6 finish.
Bladesway
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Best that they are top of the league perhaps? Can't be lucky every week can you?
True dat.
This should disabuse people of the silly notion that we're the best (or among the best) side in the league. We've been comprehensively outplayed by two play-off sides in a row now.
Also, the idea that Scougall is somehow an upgrade on McDonald is a sick joke.
sheffielder
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Wolves have bought the best players in this division to get where they are and we are someway off that.
And Kevin McDonald of course, who is rubbish and we are well shut of.
yorkshirecoast
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I thought we did ok first half - their keeper made two great saves. Second half we were poor. Their midfield dominated. We desperately need a decent striker - we will struggle to score against decent teams without one.
Deadly_D'Jaffo
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Think there's quite a few chewing on sour grapes here. Yes, they were physical but not cynical. They commited a few fouls, but Coady & Baxter throwing themselves on the floor cheaply in good attacking areas is something I hope Clough addresses.
The team with much better attacking options won today thanks to a individual error & a deflected cross falling kindly for them. Luck? No. Just like Brayford vs. Charlton, if you're applying pressure in attacking areas then deflections/errors happen and I don't see them as lucky because of that.
Wolves were the best team i've seen in this division. Jacobs, McDonald and Clark were brilliant on and off the ball.
The team with much better attacking options won today thanks to a individual error & a deflected cross falling kindly for them. Luck? No. Just like Brayford vs. Charlton, if you're applying pressure in attacking areas then deflections/errors happen and I don't see them as lucky because of that.
Wolves were the best team i've seen in this division. Jacobs, McDonald and Clark were brilliant on and off the ball.
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Punk Blade
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Can't believe that they turned out to be more physical and more dirty than the likes of Tranmere and Notts County. Very disappointed that they didn't come and give us a game of football.
On another day another ref could have sent off Clarke, McDonald and Batth (and maybe others) after enough bookings and given us 1-4 penalties. Their first goal, although the guy in front of Howard had crept in unmarked, was a fluke.
I'm certainly happy we can match the supposed best team in the division and we should be confident of taking points of Brentford, Orient, Rotherham and others. Onwards and upwards.
On another day another ref could have sent off Clarke, McDonald and Batth (and maybe others) after enough bookings and given us 1-4 penalties. Their first goal, although the guy in front of Howard had crept in unmarked, was a fluke.
I'm certainly happy we can match the supposed best team in the division and we should be confident of taking points of Brentford, Orient, Rotherham and others. Onwards and upwards.
Rollerball
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A decent game between IMO two quite evenly matched sides, their first goal was a total freak, I was right behind the net inline with the "shot" defenders left it, Howard missed it, my one question was scougal was in yards of space at least 5 times screaming for the ball that never came, Ffs use the man, freeman looks pretty good, maybe one for next season, thought brayford looked a little off the pace, but credit where it's due wolves worked hard, closed down fast and passed pretty well, Carl ikeme(?) their keeper looked really solid.
Played ok just needed a finisher, Baxter is NOT that.
On the whole no complaints, beaten on the day by better finishing not a better team.
Played ok just needed a finisher, Baxter is NOT that.
On the whole no complaints, beaten on the day by better finishing not a better team.
Latters
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Absolutely nothing to do with luck. By far the best two players on the pitch were McDonald and their no. 27, although their whole team looked a lot stronger and more composed on the ball. We couldn't get it off them. I knew our fans would tire of booing McDonald. They'd have lost their voices if they'd done it every time he had the ball.
This is not a dig at our players, they were just significantly better. We have come a long way since the start of the season, but today shows we still have a way to go. I am convinced Clough is the right man to take us that way, though.
This is not a dig at our players, they were just significantly better. We have come a long way since the start of the season, but today shows we still have a way to go. I am convinced Clough is the right man to take us that way, though.
Punk Blade
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Not cynical? Nothing BUT cynical. It was always late and nothing to do with the ball.
Deadly_D'Jaffo
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On a couple of occasions yes but so were we. Danny Batth was dirty, James Henry reacted strangely to being helped up. They were fierce, but Port Vale still take the mantle for the most over-aggresive, physical side in this league.
beatific blade
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We have got to give Scougall the ball more often. He creates something out of nothing through the middle. The amount of times he has peeled off his marker into a few yards of space (which is all he needs) only for the person on the ball to see him and ignore him is driving me insane.
All in all, though, today wasn't too bad at all and on another day we could have won it. Wolves have rebuilt themselves very impressively.
All in all, though, today wasn't too bad at all and on another day we could have won it. Wolves have rebuilt themselves very impressively.
Almost fully agree with this, but I think Wolves did have a touch of cynicism. Nothing hugely untoward by McDonald was nibbling away all game, as he is wont to do, and they garnered what, four bookings to our none?
The most cynical act was actually in injury time when the Centre Half blocked the throw-in with his hand. No need to take a booking there at 2-0 up I'd have said.
I can't agree with people saying we were as good as they were, they had the quality that brought them a win and probably came closest beside the goals too, only Ikeme's first save from Baxter was up there with their best chances.
Aye he barely featured in that team that accrued 90 points did he? And our poor run of form in no way coincided with his hamstring injury.
Deadly_D'Jaffo
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I thought the booing of McDonald was a bit unnecessary.
As did I. I might be mistaken, but didn't the club match Wolves' wage offer? Which would make the 'greedy bastard' chants a tad silly.
JohnDenver
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Wolves were big, strong, organised, professional, and with KMac, capable of decent football. The Chelsea of the third tier.
The game was even until they got the second goal. Similar to the PNE game, it showed that we needed more from our strikers in terms of hold-up play and ability to create.
No shame in today's performance or result, but we needed to score first and didn't.
The game was even until they got the second goal. Similar to the PNE game, it showed that we needed more from our strikers in terms of hold-up play and ability to create.
No shame in today's performance or result, but we needed to score first and didn't.
Latters
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Somebody like McDonald would be ideal. He just sat in front of the back four today and played others in. I think he lost the ball about twice which, considering how much he saw of it, is very good. Him and Scougall would be quite something at this level, and probably the one above.
grafikhaus
Kraft durch Freude
And so it begins. Our incredible run has ended and the 'blame game' commences. I trust NC absolutely - every player he has brought in has shown excellent promise. True, we are screaming out for a striker but they don't grow on trees.
We are very much a 'work in progress' but the strides we've made under NC are very positive. Let's take today on the chin, learn from their quickness of thought and deed (and cynicism) and hope we're in a similar position to Wolves this time next season.
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