CONFIRMED Rubén Sellés - Three year deal

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NerdyBlade said:
You genuinely think a team that couldn't compete with the teams in and around us, that lost 3 vital games at the end of the season costing us promotion, and a team that couldn't keep it's players in check deserved to go up? Yes, that's delusion
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Couldn't compete with Sunderland now 😂 Yes we failed to compete so much that we finished 14 points above them. Jesus Christ
 

Berkshire Blade said:
With the kindest intentions if you really think Wilder did nothing considering the squad remains he had to pick up you really are blind. Think back to December and the depth of the squad. I know it's hard to in this heat wave.
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"Ruins of the squad" - Hamer, Souza, Anel are all prem quality players. We also had players there that had played top end championship/low end prem football.

The squad wasn't in great shape, sure - but it also wasn't dire.

But okay, you praise Wilder for the rebuild - you can also blame him for another failed transfer window in Jan where he refused to strengthen where we needed, and when he did strengthen - he refused to use the players he got in (I.e. Holding for JLT)

Explain to me why he gets another chance? Or is it just because of sentimentality?
 
Selles is trending on twatter & had an impromptu pre-view from.

Worried that there’s a common theme - fans of Dull, Southampton & Reading saying that there was no game plan, negative substitutions & bizarre tactical decisions.
 
NerdyBlade said:
We lost 2 of 3 against them, including one that cost us promotion - that's called not competing
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There's a league table which shows how well we competed. This is an absolutely pathetic argument. You can't even say we competed with a team we finished 14 points above. A 10 year old would find your argument ridiculous. Have a good evening.
 
NerdyBlade said:
"Ruins of the squad" - Hamer, Souza, Anel are all prem quality players. We also had players there that had played top end championship/low end prem football.

The squad wasn't in great shape, sure - but it also wasn't dire.

But okay, you praise Wilder for the rebuild - you can also blame him for another failed transfer window in Jan where he refused to strengthen where we needed, and when he did strengthen - he refused to use the players he got in (I.e. Holding for JLT)

Explain to me why he gets another chance? Or is it just because of sentimentality?
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Nobody is going to pretend we perfect last season. Nobody is arguing that. Look at how poor our squad was for the last pre season game. We had to build half the squad after that and still got 90+ points when even for half the season we all could see depth was lacking. Yet some people willingly ignore that for some bizarre reason

Now we are nearly in the same spot as 12 months ago with slightly more depth rather than dusting ourselves down and hoping to improve that little bit to get us over the line with a manager Hull fans are surprised has fallen on his feet like this!
 
GeorgeDonis1889 said:
There's a league table which shows how well we competed. This is an absolutely pathetic argument. You can't even say we competed with a team we finished 14 points above. A 10 year old would find your argument ridiculous. Have a good evening.
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So losing to the teams in and around you (6 out of 7 times) without so much as laying a glove on them is competing?

Take the red and white tinted glasses off, and look at it. For all the "tactical genius" and "competing" we did, we didn't go up. We were dross to watch and we couldn't win games when it mattered. We need to move forward.

And I'll ask again - Wilder is gone. If not Selles, who?
 
GeorgeDonis1889 said:
Couldn't compete with Sunderland now 😂 Yes we failed to compete so much that we finished 14 points above them. Jesus Christ
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We lost 6 of 7 games against the teams finishing in 1st, 2nd and 4th. If you expand that to the other play off teams you only add two wins. We bottled it big time at Wembley with some awful tactical decisions.

I will forever be grateful for Wilder giving me some of the best days I’ve ever had as a Blade (born 1983). If he’s left now he’s done it on a relative high, if he stays next season he runs the risk of diminishing that.
 
Berkshire Blade said:
Nobody is going to pretend we perfect last season. Nobody is arguing that. Look at how poor our squad was for the last pre season game. We had to build half the squad after that and still got 90+ points when even for half the season we all could see depth was lacking. Yet some people willingly ignore that for some bizarre reason

Now we are nearly in the same spot as 12 months ago with slightly more depth rather than dusting ourselves down and hoping to improve that little bit to get us over the line with a manager Hull fans are surprised has fallen on his feet like this!
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The same Hull fans that didn't want him sacked, and kicked off about the manager sacking him?

But also - he's achieved what he was told to at every club he's been at. And that is without much, if any, financial backing. Imagine what he could achieve with some?
 
McGrath said:
Stop trying to do the mental gymnastics to turn this guy into the bloke who will take us onwards and upwards.

He won't
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How do you know?

I’d have stuck with Wilder, 92 points deserves another go this season. No idea if this guys up to it, he could work wonders and take us up automatically, maybe mid table mediocrity, or possibly stink the place out and be gone by Christmas.

Only time will tell, can’t wait for the new season now. New ideas and a different approach… exciting times stepping
Into the unknown.
 
Balham said:
We lost 6 of 7 games against the teams finishing in 1st, 2nd and 4th. If you expand that to the other play off teams you only add two wins. We bottled it big time at Wembley with some awful tactical decisions.

I will forever be grateful for Wilder giving me some of the best days I’ve ever had as a Blade (born 1983). If he’s left now he’s done it on a relative high, if he stays next season he runs the risk of diminishing that.
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Hes saying we didn't compete with Sunderland last season which I'm pointing out is ridiculous. Don't agree about Wembley but that's not my argument.

If you think we didn't compete with Sunderland last season then you are just wrong and I don't think you can understand football.
 

GeorgeDonis1889 said:
Hes saying we didn't compete with Sunderland last season which I'm pointing out is ridiculous. Don't agree about Wembley but that's not my argument.

If you think we didn't compete with Sunderland last season then you are just wrong and I don't think you can understand football.
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Did we, or did we not, only win once against Sunderland?

Great, we got 14pts more than them - what league are they in next season?

We did not compete with the teams around us, because if we did we might have gone up automatically. 1 win in 7 against them is not competing, no matter how many points we finished clear of them
 
NerdyBlade said:
"Ruins of the squad" - Hamer, Souza, Anel are all prem quality players. We also had players there that had played top end championship/low end prem football.

The squad wasn't in great shape, sure - but it also wasn't dire.

But okay, you praise Wilder for the rebuild - you can also blame him for another failed transfer window in Jan where he refused to strengthen where we needed, and when he did strengthen - he refused to use the players he got in (I.e. Holding for JLT)

Explain to me why he gets another chance? Or is it just because of sentimentality?
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Not to get drawn in too far, but do you not praise him for the rebuild? Whose to say we'd have actually been bought, if it wasn't for how well we were doing?

We barely even had a squad in the summer. We also cruised through the playoff semis and finished with a points total which more often than not goes up. We didn't get it done, and I felt we gave it away in the end, so I can totally understand a clean break. But it's not hard to build a case for him to have been given another chance.

Selles won one of his last 6 and got sucked back into the relegation fight and his PPG in L1 this season was marginally better than the guy who replaced him at Reading.

So, on balance, you can see why people would question the swap too.

I do think, give it a good few weeks, and the excitement will come back to the place, when transfers,etc start coming in.
 
NerdyBlade said:
Did we, or did we not, only win once against Sunderland?

Great, we got 14pts more than them - what league are they in next season?

We did not compete with the teams around us, because if we did we might have gone up automatically. 1 win in 7 against them is not competing, no matter how many points we finished clear of them
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We finished 14 points above them so we obviously competed with them. I dont actually believe you're stupid enough not to grasp this so let's end this painful conversation
 
Seems to prefer a 4-3-3 with emphasis on pressing so be interested to see where O’Hare fits in. Matches his philosophy quite well as a player but is very much a number 10.
 
1987 said:
Not to get drawn in too far, but do you not praise him for the rebuild? Whose to say we'd have actually been bought, if it wasn't for how well we were doing?

We barely even had a squad in the summer. We also cruised through the playoff semis and finished with a points total which more often than not goes up. We didn't get it done, and I felt we gave it away in the end, so I can totally understand a clean break. But it's not hard to build a case for him to have been given another chance.

Selles won one of his last 6 and got sucked back into the relegation fight and his PPG in L1 this season was marginally better than the guy who replaced him at Reading.

So, on balance, you can see why people would question the swap too.

I do think, give it a good few weeks, and the excitement will come back to the place, when transfers,etc start coming in.
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The rebuild is a rough one - whilst signings like Cooper and Burrows are fantastic, you also have to factor in the sudden refusal to use players like COH when he wanted to randomly use Brewster instead. You can rebuild all you want, but for some reason when you're not using your best talents, it doesn't make sense
 
NerdyBlade said:
Did we, or did we not, only win once against Sunderland?

Great, we got 14pts more than them - what league are they in next season?

We did not compete with the teams around us, because if we did we might have gone up automatically. 1 win in 7 against them is not competing, no matter how many points we finished clear of them
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The same would have happened this season, Leicester, Southampton, Ipswich would have done the double over us but we’d have probably been in the top 6.

It would have been similar domestic signings and a lack of pace/ creativity. I’m not saying Selles gives us what we’ve been missing, but at least it’s something a bit different to the same old same.
 
jt64 said:
They were bottom of the league when he was appointed.
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They were 22nd. He got them to 21st.

I can appreciate on the face of it why some are underwhelmed
Some of my Wendy mates I grew up with are laughing and think we are bonkers so it's not hard to see why some are sceptical.

Having said all that looking into him in more depth he does seem to have something about him. He's multi faceted, had an unusual and tough grounding and I'm genuinely intrigued to see how it all pans out.
 
GeorgeDonis1889 said:
We finished 14 points above them so we obviously competed with them. I dont actually believe you're stupid enough not to grasp this so let's end this painful conversation
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Enlighten me as to how losing to them twice is competing with them?

Explain to Me how losing to the teams in and around us, who were all competing for the same 2 spots and then the playoffs, is competing?

Can get all the points you want - it's where you end up after it's all said and done that matters, and we didn't get there because we couldn't compete
 
SwitchBLADE Smiles said:
Selles is trending on twatter & had an impromptu pre-view from.

Worried that there’s a common theme - fans of Dull, Southampton & Reading saying that there was no game plan, negative substitutions & bizarre tactical decisions.
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Bloody hell sounds like we've got Chrissy Wilder
 
Danetheblade said:
Where are we playing next season, where are they playing?
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Not what we're discussing mate. Glad you got involved though. I'll say again if you dont think we competed well with Sunderland last season then you just arent capable of understanding even the basics of football. Google how a league table works and go from there 👍
 
GeorgeDonis1889 said:
Not what we're discussing mate. Glad you got involved though. I'll say again if you dont think we competed well with Sunderland last season then you just arent capable of understanding even the basics of football. Google how a league table works and go from there 👍
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Let's try this a different way...

How many times did we beat Sunderland?

What league will they be in next year? Where will we be playing?

Which would you have preferred - getting 14 points more than them, or getting promoted?

Explain to me how failing to beat the teams in and around you, therefore costing the team promotion, is competing with them?
 
GeorgeDonis1889 said:
Not what we're discussing mate. Glad you got involved though. I'll say again if you dont think we competed well with Sunderland last season then you just arent capable of understanding even the basics of football. Google how a league table works and go from there 👍
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Didn’t they beat us twice? I don’t really need to google how a league table works. I think you might need to figure out how promotions work though.
 

McGrath said:
No it is factually correct.

Just because I'm saying something you don't want to hear and being negative about him, it doesn't make me wrong.

The best I can say about this potential hire is that it's left field

I hope I'm wrong by the way and he's a success. But I don't get a good feeling about this.
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Pull yourself together man
You sound like the blonde bombshell in a 70's disaster movie
 
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