CONFIRMED Rubén Sellés - Three year deal

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I've noticed in recent years a modern Internet football speak that's more focused on the process than actual results which is what the end goal should be based on.

We are seemingly getting rid of Wilder for a process that we have no idea will work or not. It's a huge gamble and the board have put their neck on the line with regards to it.

Let’s hope it pays off as if it doesn't it'll be a far more toxic fall out than any blade would want. A poor start and he won't be given a chanceAre

Are you forgetting that we won NOTHING with Wilder in charge - so the results meant nothing at the end, or the points haul
 

As a Blade, I want him to succeed. But however hard I look, his CV isn't great, that is all. If I have missed something about his career to date, happy to be corrected.
The job he did at Reading and Hull with accurate context is impressive enough - then also look at how easily his Hull side dismantled us
 
Are you forgetting that we won NOTHING with Wilder in charge - so the results meant nothing at the end, or the points haul
Most clubs win nothing. We came fucking close in a season that most times is good enough for promotion.

chucking all that work away for a new model is very risky
 
Most clubs win nothing. We came fucking close in a season that most times is good enough for promotion.

chucking all that work away for a new model is very risky
All what work? What did Wilder do? Explain to me what revolutionary tactical changes Wilder made that made us this promotion contender?

Or is it the fact that we had a squad stacked with talent that should have been at the top end anyway?
 
Yep, this is lunacy

People need to trying to convince themselves this is going to be alright.... It's not
Don't worry mate, we'll have a nuclear winter to contend with which will take your mind off it.
 
Most clubs win nothing. We came fucking close in a season that most times is good enough for promotion.

chucking all that work away for a new model is very risky
We blew it
We were 4 points clear of Leeds and Burnley and inexplicably played our worst three games of the season completely surrendering autos

We blew it again 1 goal in front against a piss poor Sunderland team that looked terrified and wanted to be anywhere else but on tte pitch against us
We reverted to our tried and tested tactic of passing back to the keeper at every opportunity until we lost
 
What did he do this season that was so fantastic and can't be improved on?

Got a points total that has literally never been bettered in our 135 year history at that level? And if that isn't enough then what could anyone ever possibly do that you'd class as fantastic?

Nobody has ever done better for us at this level, ever. And yet that means nothing to you.
 
Got a points total that has literally never been bettered in our 135 year history at that level? And if that isn't enough then what could anyone ever possibly do that you'd class as fantastic?

Nobody has ever done better for us at this level, ever. And yet that means nothing to you.
So straight off the bat:

  • Did you enjoy watching us?
  • Did you feel we deserved to go up?
  • How did we compete against the teams in and around us on this fantastical magical season?
And most importantly- How did the season end?

Also - who says any new manager couldn't match or better that?
 
I don’t believe l’ve seen so many happy people on here pretending they’re angry about something.

Sacking Wilder has got the usual club beaters as happy as Larry, with something that they can get their heavily gnashed teeth into.

(Please note this doesn’t apply to fans who are unhappy with the decision but aren’t on here multiple times a day, looking for something, anything, to moan about)
 
Got a points total that has literally never been bettered in our 135 year history at that level? And if that isn't enough then what could anyone ever possibly do that you'd class as fantastic?

Nobody has ever done better for us at this level, ever. And yet that means nothing to you.
He’s done better at this level for us by getting us automatically promoted in 2019.

Getting 92 points and not going up, is literally, pointless.
 
They're looking at it from the outside - we have the perspective of seeing Wilder manage the team, the pressers, his squads ect, so we know how bad it got towards the end
How bad did it get?

I must have missed that. I mean we only got 2 points a game all season after a preseason of upheaval and financial restrictions by the previous owner and then losing two key players to season ending injuries.

But Hull fans obviously after seeing Selles for 6 months don't know what they're talking about because it's not what we want to hear. I mean why couldn't they just say that Selles was amazing and he's the next Guadiola... Why?
 

How bad did it get?

I must have missed that. I mean we only got 2 points a game all season after a preseason of upheaval and financial restrictions by the previous owner and then losing two key players to season ending injuries.

But Hull fans obviously after seeing Selles for 6 months don't know what they're talking about because it's not what we want to hear. I mean why couldn't they just say that Selles was amazing and he's the next Guadiola... Why?
How bad did it get? We lost 3 "easy" games when we were clear of Leeds and Burnley. We got fined REPEATEDLY because Wilder was out of line alongside being unable to control the players. We threw away winning positions time and time again with negative football.

I can count on the 1 hand the amount of games this season I actually enjoyed watching us.

As I've said already - Wilder is gone. If not Selles, who?
 
  • Did you enjoy watching us?
  • Did you feel we deserved to go up?
  • How did we compete against the teams in and around us on this fantastical magical season?
Yes
Yes
We competed pretty well just weren't as good as the top 2 which considering they both got 100 points each is hardly surprising

Also - who says any new manager couldn't match or better that?
135 years of history strongle suggests it. You did ask what he did that was so fantastic. Surely you can appreciate that a record never bettered in our history is quite fantastic and it's not ridiculous to argue he shouldn't be replaced after that? You do get the point I'm making? Surely you see that's more than reasonable as an argument?
 
Yes
Yes
We competed pretty well just weren't as good as the top 2 which considering they both got 100 points each is hardly surprising
In the politest way possible - you can't be serious.

The football was turgid. We lost 6 of 7 games with those around us, and you thought we were good and deserved promotion? Absolutely deluded
 
No, it really is bullshit.
No it is factually correct.

Just because I'm saying something you don't want to hear and being negative about him, it doesn't make me wrong.

The best I can say about this potential hire is that it's left field

I hope I'm wrong by the way and he's a success. But I don't get a good feeling about this.
 
In the politest way possible - you can't be serious.

The football was turgid. We lost 6 of 7 games with those around us, and you thought we were good and deserved promotion? Absolutely deluded
We finished miles clear of the 4th placed team and 3 teams go up. Is it really deluded to take from that we deserved to go up? Feels like it's very reasonable for someone to think the 3rd placed team deserved to go up.
 
All what work? What did Wilder do? Explain to me what revolutionary tactical changes Wilder made that made us this promotion contender?

Or is it the fact that we had a squad stacked with talent that should have been at the top end anyway?
With the kindest intentions if you really think Wilder did nothing considering the squad remains he had to pick up you really are blind. Think back to December and the depth of the squad. I know it's hard to in this heat wave.
 
We finished miles clear of the 4th placed team and 3 teams go up. Is it really deluded to take from that we deserved to go up? Feels like it's very reasonable for someone to think the 3rd placed team deserved to go up.

Finished miles clear of 4th who happened to be the team that beat us in the play-off final and beat us for the 2nd time.
 
We finished miles clear of the 4th placed team and 3 teams go up. Is it really deluded to take from that we deserved to go up? Feels like it's very reasonable for someone to think the 3rd placed team deserved to go up.
You genuinely think a team that couldn't compete with the teams in and around us, that lost 3 vital games at the end of the season costing us promotion, and a team that couldn't keep it's players in check deserved to go up? Yes, that's delusion
 
Finished miles clear of 4th who happened to be the team beat us in the play-off final and beat us for the 2nd time.
Cheers mate wouldn't have clocked that if you hadn't pointed it out.

I think finishing miles clear of 3rd is a reasonable argument for deserving to go up which is what was being discussed.
 

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