Ruben Selles v's Chris Wilder

[Tony Currie]

For those who think Selles is a good call. Why would AI pick Selles over Wilder.

Ruben Selles

Summary Table​

Club	Matches	W–D–L	Win%	Pts/Match	Notables
Southampton	16 PL	2–4–10	13%	~0.625	Highlight: away win at Chelsea
Reading	63 all	25–14–24	~40%	~1.5	9–0 win vs Exeter, stabilized club
Hull City	~27 PL	9–7–11	~33%	~1.06	Ended mid-table, cup exit on pens

Chris Wilder

Summary Table​

Club (Period)	Games	W–D–L	Win%	Key Notes
Sheffield United (2016–21)	227	106–47–74	47%	2 promotions, PL mid-table finish
Middlesbrough (2021–22)	45	18–11–16	40%	Near play-offs, then slump
Watford (2023)	11	3–3–5	27%	Short tenure
Sheffield United (2023–25)	~37	~23–6–8	~62%*	Relegation, rebuild, nearly promoted

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Only 37 games for Wilder since December 2023?

 

[Ron_Justice]

In his own words:

I got the transcript from this interview and asked GPT to summarise:

Core Philosophy & Tactical Identity​

• Aggression and Intensity as Non-Negotiables:
  He consistently emphasizes work rate, front-foot aggression, and intensity out of possession as fundamental. Phrases like “the higher the better” for pressing and wanting to “press to score goals” highlight a proactive, high-press style.
• Verticality with Control:
  Vertical play isn’t just about long balls — Sellés wants quick, purposeful line-breaking passes to put the opponent on the back foot. His teams aim to be dynamic and direct, but also structured enough to “control spaces.”
• Flexible Formations, Fixed Principles:
  Sellés adapts between 4-2-2-2, 4-3-3, and 4-2-3-1 depending on context, but the principles (intensity, verticality, team structure) remain constant. His tactical malleability shows up especially when transitioning between League One, the Championship, and the Premier League.
• Learned Adaptability:
  At Reading, he learned the hard way that a pressing system must be adapted to the division’s realities — otherwise, teams just bypass the press. So he adjusted by adding more central presence and focusing on second-ball control.

Man-Management & Dressing Room Culture​

• Character & Chemistry First:
  Sellés actively seeks players who “own the situation” and can coexist in a high-accountability environment. He stresses honest conversations, observing player interactions, and cultural fit.
• Collective Over Ego:
  There’s a strong collectivist bent to his style — everyone must “feel close to the lineup” and contribute. He wants “a group of players that want to do it together,” not stars who operate in silos.
• No Age Bias:
  He evaluates based on fit, not age: “We don’t see if you’re 16 or 34,” he says. The best tactical fit plays — end of story.

Player Development & Coaching Ethos​

• Structure First, Then Flourish:
  His approach to youth development is systematic: clearly defined roles within a consistent tactical framework. This structure reduces mental load, allowing young players to focus on execution and learning.
• Mistakes Are Safe, Not Punished:
  He creates a psychologically safe space — honest mistakes are expected in young players. This is a stark contrast to environments where youth fear failure.
• Detail-Oriented Coaching:
  Every training session is built around specific tactical content. Players are coached positionally and functionally (e.g., a winger is coached on pressing angles, diagonal lines, finishing). It's highly granular and deliberate.
• Reading Example:
  At Reading, even amid crisis, he developed players like Andre Gray (age 16 at debut) by trusting them in structured systems. He speaks proudly of this as a proving ground for his methods.

Data, Metrics & Analytical Thinking​

• Physical Data as Validation:
  Sellés cited the post-Leeds match as the most physically intense Hull performance of the season, using that data point to underscore buy-in and belief.
• Possession as Tactical Leverage:
  He breaks down matches not just emotionally but analytically — even pushing for a 10–15% increase in possession as a tool to level up performance against top teams.
• Micro-structure in Attack:
  His reference to “Winger-Winger connection,” “maximum depth, minimum width,” and coordinated off-ball runs shows an advanced level of coaching detail.

Leadership Tone​

• Measured & Reflective:
  Sellés comes across as calm, deliberate, and deeply introspective. He acknowledges past mistakes (e.g., pressing inefficiencies at Reading) and sees management as a growth journey.
• Empathetic Yet Demanding:
  He wants players to feel secure and heard — but also insists on intensity and adherence to his methods.
• No Ego:
  He deflects credit when praised for young player development (“I wish I had a secret formula, but I don’t”). He credits structure, clarity, and hard work.

Squad Building & Transfer Philosophy​

• Lean Squad Preference:
  He avoids bloated squads, favoring a smaller group where everyone feels involved. Rotation and youth integration are key to this.
• Precision over Pace in Transfers:
  Even in January’s urgency, he stresses “not rushing,” aiming to “get the perfect profile” based on Hull’s needs and the existing squad.

Emotional Intelligence & Club Affinity​

• Gratitude Toward Reading:
  He speaks warmly and respectfully of his time at Reading, where he had to front the media during turmoil. He describes that period as where he “found himself as a manager.”
• Fan Connection:
  Sellés is aware of the importance of fan buy-in. His interviews often reflect how decisions are seen publicly, not just technically.

TL;DR —​

Rubén Sellés is a highly structured, detail-driven manager who prioritizes intensity, tactical clarity, and psychological safety. He adapts to his players and environment but never compromises on work ethic or collective identity. He develops young players not with freedom alone, but with systematic coaching and role clarity. While tactically flexible, he leads with a calm but purposeful demeanour, grounded in experience and humility.

 

[Pintor75]

Only 37 games for Wilder since December

Only 37 games for Wilder since December 2023?

It's actually

P 78 won34 drew13 lost 31
Win % 43.59
According to Wikipedia

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

P 78 won34 drew13 lost 31
Win % 43.59
According to Wikipedia

Well, yeah.

He had 50+ just last season.

 

[dexter101]

I don't really watch other teams and my memory is terrible.

If we look at his time at Hull, which players did he have there that would get into our squad?

Its less about his previous success or lack of it, and more about whether he would get better results and performances out of our squad/academy?

 

[Frank the tank]

For those who think Selles is a good call. Why would AI pick Selles over Wilder.

Ruben Selles

Summary Table​

Club	Matches	W–D–L	Win%	Pts/Match	Notables
Southampton	16 PL	2–4–10	13%	~0.625	Highlight: away win at Chelsea
Reading	63 all	25–14–24	~40%	~1.5	9–0 win vs Exeter, stabilized club
Hull City	~27 PL	9–7–11	~33%	~1.06	Ended mid-table, cup exit on pens

Chris Wilder

Summary Table​

Club (Period)	Games	W–D–L	Win%	Key Notes
Sheffield United (2016–21)	227	106–47–74	47%	2 promotions, PL mid-table finish
Middlesbrough (2021–22)	45	18–11–16	40%	Near play-offs, then slump
Watford (2023)	11	3–3–5	27%	Short tenure
Sheffield United (2023–25)	~37	~23–6–8	~62%*	Relegation, rebuild, nearly promoted

Dunno why would it. ?

 

[Rodley]

In his own words:

I got the transcript from this interview and asked GPT to summarise:

Core Philosophy & Tactical Identity​

• Aggression and Intensity as Non-Negotiables:
  He consistently emphasizes work rate, front-foot aggression, and intensity out of possession as fundamental. Phrases like “the higher the better” for pressing and wanting to “press to score goals” highlight a proactive, high-press style.
• Verticality with Control:
  Vertical play isn’t just about long balls — Sellés wants quick, purposeful line-breaking passes to put the opponent on the back foot. His teams aim to be dynamic and direct, but also structured enough to “control spaces.”
• Flexible Formations, Fixed Principles:
  Sellés adapts between 4-2-2-2, 4-3-3, and 4-2-3-1 depending on context, but the principles (intensity, verticality, team structure) remain constant. His tactical malleability shows up especially when transitioning between League One, the Championship, and the Premier League.
• Learned Adaptability:
  At Reading, he learned the hard way that a pressing system must be adapted to the division’s realities — otherwise, teams just bypass the press. So he adjusted by adding more central presence and focusing on second-ball control.

Man-Management & Dressing Room Culture​

• Character & Chemistry First:
  Sellés actively seeks players who “own the situation” and can coexist in a high-accountability environment. He stresses honest conversations, observing player interactions, and cultural fit.
• Collective Over Ego:
  There’s a strong collectivist bent to his style — everyone must “feel close to the lineup” and contribute. He wants “a group of players that want to do it together,” not stars who operate in silos.
• No Age Bias:
  He evaluates based on fit, not age: “We don’t see if you’re 16 or 34,” he says. The best tactical fit plays — end of story.

Player Development & Coaching Ethos​

• Structure First, Then Flourish:
  His approach to youth development is systematic: clearly defined roles within a consistent tactical framework. This structure reduces mental load, allowing young players to focus on execution and learning.
• Mistakes Are Safe, Not Punished:
  He creates a psychologically safe space — honest mistakes are expected in young players. This is a stark contrast to environments where youth fear failure.
• Detail-Oriented Coaching:
  Every training session is built around specific tactical content. Players are coached positionally and functionally (e.g., a winger is coached on pressing angles, diagonal lines, finishing). It's highly granular and deliberate.
• Reading Example:
  At Reading, even amid crisis, he developed players like Andre Gray (age 16 at debut) by trusting them in structured systems. He speaks proudly of this as a proving ground for his methods.

Data, Metrics & Analytical Thinking​

• Physical Data as Validation:
  Sellés cited the post-Leeds match as the most physically intense Hull performance of the season, using that data point to underscore buy-in and belief.
• Possession as Tactical Leverage:
  He breaks down matches not just emotionally but analytically — even pushing for a 10–15% increase in possession as a tool to level up performance against top teams.
• Micro-structure in Attack:
  His reference to “Winger-Winger connection,” “maximum depth, minimum width,” and coordinated off-ball runs shows an advanced level of coaching detail.

Leadership Tone​

• Measured & Reflective:
  Sellés comes across as calm, deliberate, and deeply introspective. He acknowledges past mistakes (e.g., pressing inefficiencies at Reading) and sees management as a growth journey.
• Empathetic Yet Demanding:
  He wants players to feel secure and heard — but also insists on intensity and adherence to his methods.
• No Ego:
  He deflects credit when praised for young player development (“I wish I had a secret formula, but I don’t”). He credits structure, clarity, and hard work.

Squad Building & Transfer Philosophy​

• Lean Squad Preference:
  He avoids bloated squads, favoring a smaller group where everyone feels involved. Rotation and youth integration are key to this.
• Precision over Pace in Transfers:
  Even in January’s urgency, he stresses “not rushing,” aiming to “get the perfect profile” based on Hull’s needs and the existing squad.

Emotional Intelligence & Club Affinity​

• Gratitude Toward Reading:
  He speaks warmly and respectfully of his time at Reading, where he had to front the media during turmoil. He describes that period as where he “found himself as a manager.”
• Fan Connection:
  Sellés is aware of the importance of fan buy-in. His interviews often reflect how decisions are seen publicly, not just technically.

TL;DR —​

Encouraging stuff, the verticality will mean presumably we’ll need pace and power up top. Maybe even Ryan One might get some time along with obviously Tyrese.

 

[Chimpan-A]

I have no issue with Selles. As long as he brings Milligan, Bentine and Secombe with him.

 

[bonobo]

This is just the chaos of football, Ruben Selles is clearly highly rated and considered to have proven himself enough to attract a bigger job and that might all be perfectly correct ...yet at the same time has managed three clubs in the equivalent of two seasons and been sacked twice.....

 

[Railway Blade]

Going to need some pace at the back if Selles plays a high defensive press. Robbo running back towards his own goal doesn't end well.

 

[robbiez666]

In his own words:

I got the transcript from this interview and asked GPT to summarise:

Core Philosophy & Tactical Identity​

• Aggression and Intensity as Non-Negotiables:
  He consistently emphasizes work rate, front-foot aggression, and intensity out of possession as fundamental. Phrases like “the higher the better” for pressing and wanting to “press to score goals” highlight a proactive, high-press style.
• Verticality with Control:
  Vertical play isn’t just about long balls — Sellés wants quick, purposeful line-breaking passes to put the opponent on the back foot. His teams aim to be dynamic and direct, but also structured enough to “control spaces.”
• Flexible Formations, Fixed Principles:
  Sellés adapts between 4-2-2-2, 4-3-3, and 4-2-3-1 depending on context, but the principles (intensity, verticality, team structure) remain constant. His tactical malleability shows up especially when transitioning between League One, the Championship, and the Premier League.
• Learned Adaptability:
  At Reading, he learned the hard way that a pressing system must be adapted to the division’s realities — otherwise, teams just bypass the press. So he adjusted by adding more central presence and focusing on second-ball control.

Man-Management & Dressing Room Culture​

• Character & Chemistry First:
  Sellés actively seeks players who “own the situation” and can coexist in a high-accountability environment. He stresses honest conversations, observing player interactions, and cultural fit.
• Collective Over Ego:
  There’s a strong collectivist bent to his style — everyone must “feel close to the lineup” and contribute. He wants “a group of players that want to do it together,” not stars who operate in silos.
• No Age Bias:
  He evaluates based on fit, not age: “We don’t see if you’re 16 or 34,” he says. The best tactical fit plays — end of story.

Player Development & Coaching Ethos​

• Structure First, Then Flourish:
  His approach to youth development is systematic: clearly defined roles within a consistent tactical framework. This structure reduces mental load, allowing young players to focus on execution and learning.
• Mistakes Are Safe, Not Punished:
  He creates a psychologically safe space — honest mistakes are expected in young players. This is a stark contrast to environments where youth fear failure.
• Detail-Oriented Coaching:
  Every training session is built around specific tactical content. Players are coached positionally and functionally (e.g., a winger is coached on pressing angles, diagonal lines, finishing). It's highly granular and deliberate.
• Reading Example:
  At Reading, even amid crisis, he developed players like Andre Gray (age 16 at debut) by trusting them in structured systems. He speaks proudly of this as a proving ground for his methods.

Data, Metrics & Analytical Thinking​

• Physical Data as Validation:
  Sellés cited the post-Leeds match as the most physically intense Hull performance of the season, using that data point to underscore buy-in and belief.
• Possession as Tactical Leverage:
  He breaks down matches not just emotionally but analytically — even pushing for a 10–15% increase in possession as a tool to level up performance against top teams.
• Micro-structure in Attack:
  His reference to “Winger-Winger connection,” “maximum depth, minimum width,” and coordinated off-ball runs shows an advanced level of coaching detail.

Leadership Tone​

• Measured & Reflective:
  Sellés comes across as calm, deliberate, and deeply introspective. He acknowledges past mistakes (e.g., pressing inefficiencies at Reading) and sees management as a growth journey.
• Empathetic Yet Demanding:
  He wants players to feel secure and heard — but also insists on intensity and adherence to his methods.
• No Ego:
  He deflects credit when praised for young player development (“I wish I had a secret formula, but I don’t”). He credits structure, clarity, and hard work.

Squad Building & Transfer Philosophy​

• Lean Squad Preference:
  He avoids bloated squads, favoring a smaller group where everyone feels involved. Rotation and youth integration are key to this.
• Precision over Pace in Transfers:
  Even in January’s urgency, he stresses “not rushing,” aiming to “get the perfect profile” based on Hull’s needs and the existing squad.

Emotional Intelligence & Club Affinity​

• Gratitude Toward Reading:
  He speaks warmly and respectfully of his time at Reading, where he had to front the media during turmoil. He describes that period as where he “found himself as a manager.”
• Fan Connection:
  Sellés is aware of the importance of fan buy-in. His interviews often reflect how decisions are seen publicly, not just technically.

TL;DR —​

Does he thump the badge though?

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

For those who think Selles is a good call. Why would AI pick Selles over Wilder.

Ruben Selles

Summary Table​

Club	Matches	W–D–L	Win%	Pts/Match	Notables
Southampton	16 PL	2–4–10	13%	~0.625	Highlight: away win at Chelsea
Reading	63 all	25–14–24	~40%	~1.5	9–0 win vs Exeter, stabilized club
Hull City	~27 PL	9–7–11	~33%	~1.06	Ended mid-table, cup exit on pens

Chris Wilder

Summary Table​

Club (Period)	Games	W–D–L	Win%	Key Notes
Sheffield United (2016–21)	227	106–47–74	47%	2 promotions, PL mid-table finish
Middlesbrough (2021–22)	45	18–11–16	40%	Near play-offs, then slump
Watford (2023)	11	3–3–5	27%	Short tenure
Sheffield United (2023–25)	~37	~23–6–8	~62%*	Relegation, rebuild, nearly promoted

It’s a bit of a strange comparison, if it was like for like in terms of squad strength & budget I’d understand.

Southampton, he took the job to see the season out - like Wilder did with us.

Reading were going bust and he got them into the playoffs - decent achievement

Hull he kept them up but got the job half way through the season - average achievement (I think they had some good players and were in a false position)

Wilder did an unbelievable job with us in his first reign, but unfortunately he’s done nothing since. Boro & Watford he achieved nothing.

His second spell with us he was relegated. His biggest achievement was getting over 90pts but it meant nothing

 

[robbiez666]

This is just the chaos of football, Ruben Selles is clearly highly rated and considered to have proven himself enough to attract a bigger job and that might all be perfectly correct ...yet at the same time has managed three clubs in the equivalent of two seasons and been sacked twice.....

He got sacked by the madman in charge of Hull. The same guy who sacked Rosenior and every other manager who doesn't take Hull up.

He wasn't sacked by Southampton. He had a contract to the end of the season which they didn't renew.

Exactly the same record as Wilder at Boro and Watford. But Boro and Watford are/were both top 8 clubs with lots of money and quality players.

Selles managed a club going down and beat Chelsea and drew away to Liverpool (4:4 - imagine).
Reading were going bust and he got them to the play-offs
Hull were in a mess and he steadied the ship. Beat us, Sunderland and drew with Leeds.

So, he's been twice dropped in with largely someone else's players and made a fist of it.

 

[Railway Blade]

I have no issue with Selles. As long as he brings Milligan, Bentine and Secombe with him.

I have no issue with Selles so long as she brings Steffi Graff and Gabriela Sabatini.

 

[MayorOJC]

For those who think Selles is a good call. Why would AI pick Selles over Wilder.

Ruben Selles

Summary Table​

Club	Matches	W–D–L	Win%	Pts/Match	Notables
Southampton	16 PL	2–4–10	13%	~0.625	Highlight: away win at Chelsea
Reading	63 all	25–14–24	~40%	~1.5	9–0 win vs Exeter, stabilized club
Hull City	~27 PL	9–7–11	~33%	~1.06	Ended mid-table, cup exit on pens

Chris Wilder

Summary Table​

Club (Period)	Games	W–D–L	Win%	Key Notes
Sheffield United (2016–21)	227	106–47–74	47%	2 promotions, PL mid-table finish
Middlesbrough (2021–22)	45	18–11–16	40%	Near play-offs, then slump
Watford (2023)	11	3–3–5	27%	Short tenure
Sheffield United (2023–25)	~37	~23–6–8	~62%*	Relegation, rebuild, nearly promoted

We've spent £130m+ in 5 years, Hull have spent about £45m. Apples and oranges.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

In his own words:

I got the transcript from this interview and asked GPT to summarise:

Core Philosophy & Tactical Identity​

• Aggression and Intensity as Non-Negotiables:
  He consistently emphasizes work rate, front-foot aggression, and intensity out of possession as fundamental. Phrases like “the higher the better” for pressing and wanting to “press to score goals” highlight a proactive, high-press style.
• Verticality with Control:
  Vertical play isn’t just about long balls — Sellés wants quick, purposeful line-breaking passes to put the opponent on the back foot. His teams aim to be dynamic and direct, but also structured enough to “control spaces.”
• Flexible Formations, Fixed Principles:
  Sellés adapts between 4-2-2-2, 4-3-3, and 4-2-3-1 depending on context, but the principles (intensity, verticality, team structure) remain constant. His tactical malleability shows up especially when transitioning between League One, the Championship, and the Premier League.
• Learned Adaptability:
  At Reading, he learned the hard way that a pressing system must be adapted to the division’s realities — otherwise, teams just bypass the press. So he adjusted by adding more central presence and focusing on second-ball control.

Man-Management & Dressing Room Culture​

• Character & Chemistry First:
  Sellés actively seeks players who “own the situation” and can coexist in a high-accountability environment. He stresses honest conversations, observing player interactions, and cultural fit.
• Collective Over Ego:
  There’s a strong collectivist bent to his style — everyone must “feel close to the lineup” and contribute. He wants “a group of players that want to do it together,” not stars who operate in silos.
• No Age Bias:
  He evaluates based on fit, not age: “We don’t see if you’re 16 or 34,” he says. The best tactical fit plays — end of story.

Player Development & Coaching Ethos​

• Structure First, Then Flourish:
  His approach to youth development is systematic: clearly defined roles within a consistent tactical framework. This structure reduces mental load, allowing young players to focus on execution and learning.
• Mistakes Are Safe, Not Punished:
  He creates a psychologically safe space — honest mistakes are expected in young players. This is a stark contrast to environments where youth fear failure.
• Detail-Oriented Coaching:
  Every training session is built around specific tactical content. Players are coached positionally and functionally (e.g., a winger is coached on pressing angles, diagonal lines, finishing). It's highly granular and deliberate.
• Reading Example:
  At Reading, even amid crisis, he developed players like Andre Gray (age 16 at debut) by trusting them in structured systems. He speaks proudly of this as a proving ground for his methods.

Data, Metrics & Analytical Thinking​

• Physical Data as Validation:
  Sellés cited the post-Leeds match as the most physically intense Hull performance of the season, using that data point to underscore buy-in and belief.
• Possession as Tactical Leverage:
  He breaks down matches not just emotionally but analytically — even pushing for a 10–15% increase in possession as a tool to level up performance against top teams.
• Micro-structure in Attack:
  His reference to “Winger-Winger connection,” “maximum depth, minimum width,” and coordinated off-ball runs shows an advanced level of coaching detail.

Leadership Tone​

• Measured & Reflective:
  Sellés comes across as calm, deliberate, and deeply introspective. He acknowledges past mistakes (e.g., pressing inefficiencies at Reading) and sees management as a growth journey.
• Empathetic Yet Demanding:
  He wants players to feel secure and heard — but also insists on intensity and adherence to his methods.
• No Ego:
  He deflects credit when praised for young player development (“I wish I had a secret formula, but I don’t”). He credits structure, clarity, and hard work.

Squad Building & Transfer Philosophy​

• Lean Squad Preference:
  He avoids bloated squads, favoring a smaller group where everyone feels involved. Rotation and youth integration are key to this.
• Precision over Pace in Transfers:
  Even in January’s urgency, he stresses “not rushing,” aiming to “get the perfect profile” based on Hull’s needs and the existing squad.

Emotional Intelligence & Club Affinity​

• Gratitude Toward Reading:
  He speaks warmly and respectfully of his time at Reading, where he had to front the media during turmoil. He describes that period as where he “found himself as a manager.”
• Fan Connection:
  Sellés is aware of the importance of fan buy-in. His interviews often reflect how decisions are seen publicly, not just technically.

TL;DR —​

Big fan of this level of laziness. Not only a text transcript summary of a video but a too long didn't read version too.

 

[SwissBlade]

We've spent £130m+ in 5 years, Hull have spent about £45m. Apples and oranges.

How much have we spent to get to the premier league?
How much have we spent once there?
How much have we recouped from sales?

Apricots and clementines

 

[Ron_Justice]

Big fan of this level of laziness. Not only a text transcript summary of a video but a too long didn't read version too.

FWIW, I did watch it but reasoned not everyone would have the inclination or time. Hence the GPT Transcript shenanigans. The TL;DR? Icing on the cake

 

[Pintor75]

Let's give him a chance if he's the choice, onwards and upwards blades

 

[programmechap]

He got sacked by the madman in charge of Hull. The same guy who sacked Rosenior and every other manager who doesn't take Hull up.

He wasn't sacked by Southampton. He had a contract to the end of the season which they didn't renew.

Exactly the same record as Wilder at Boro and Watford. But Boro and Watford are/were both top 8 clubs with lots of money and quality players.

Selles managed a club going down and beat Chelsea and drew away to Liverpool (4:4 - imagine).
Reading were going bust and he got them to the play-offs
Hull were in a mess and he steadied the ship. Beat us, Sunderland and drew with Leeds.

So, he's been twice dropped in with largely someone else's players and made a fist of it.

But there's a reason he only gets jobs at places like Reading and Hull and performs so so there.

He's not very good.

I hope I'm proved wrong, but in appointing him over a manager who has a 2nd and 3rd place finish in the championship, it looks like the owners have gone mad.

 

[Nick Jansky]

...yet at the same time has managed three clubs in the equivalent of two seasons and been sacked twice.....

Wilder managed 3 sackings and we took him back. All managers get sacked, it doesn’t always mean they are bad managers.

 

[Nick Jansky]

But there's a reason he only gets jobs at places like Reading and Hull and performs so so there.

He's not very good.

At his age Wilder was only getting jobs at Halifax & Oxford.

 

[programmechap]

At his age Wilder was only getting jobs at Halifax & Oxford.

But he was on an upward trajectory when we appointed him, getting Oxford and then Northampton promoted.

Selles started out in the PL and his trajectory has been downward since then.

And we appointed Wilder when we had been bumming around in League One for 5 seasons. It made sense to appoint a manager with success in the divisions below. There is no way we would have appointed Wilder had we just finished 3rd in the championship.

 

[Old Programme seller]

What’s drawing us to Selles? He’s done nothing to draw good attention to himself so why him?

I hope this gamble pays off if he is to be manager or we’ll end up like we did after Robson skint and bumbling around in the championship until the inevitable happens

 

[robbiez666]

But there's a reason he only gets jobs at places like Reading and Hull and performs so so there.

He's not very good.

I hope I'm proved wrong, but in appointing him over a manager who has a 2nd and 3rd place finish in the championship, it looks like the owners have gone mad.

compared to Wilder who failed at Boro and Watford? If we'd not needed a manager, where do you think he'd be? Not on an upward trajectory, would he?

 

[Nick Jansky]

Selles started out in the PL and his trajectory has been downward since then.

This is nonsense.

Took on a short term impossible task in the PL.

Moved to L1 and did a great job given the circumstances at a club that is run even worse than Wednesday.

Up to the Championship, steadied a sinking ship and became the latest victim of a nutter of a chairman who also sacked Rosenior.

I think you’re being negative for the sake of it.

 

[toledo]

In reflecting upon all of this, I keep coming back to the biggest complaint we all had during the season and I personally think it may have cost Wilder his job: our tactical makeup, lack of a decisive plan B, a (truthfully) limited aggressive forward plan, and, finally, not being able to decisively kill teams off, all culminating in the week from Hell....

I honestly don't know how I feel about the change of managers but if the new manager can bring a new focus of forward play, decisive passing from back to front, a clear Plan A and Plan B, and a team that scares the shit out of opponents, then, in the long run, a new manager is the right move.

It all, alas, comes down to the week from Hell and our inability to kill teams where needed to.

toledo

 

[Captain Obvious]

Appointing a manager deemed not good enough for Hull City, looks like a shocking decision whichever way you look at it. He’d be a very underwhelming appointment.

 

[programmechap]

This is nonsense.

Took on a short term impossible task in the PL.

Moved to L1 and did a great job given the circumstances at a club that is run even worse than Wednesday.

Up to the Championship, steadied a sinking ship and became the latest victim of a nutter of a chairman who also sacked Rosenior.

I think you’re being negative for the sake of it.

No, I genuinely can't see it. Make all the excuses for him you want, but the fact remains he was sacked by a club that narrowly avoided relegation. How he can then get a job with a club that narrowly failed to get promotion is beyond me

As I say, I Hope im wrong, but if he is being appointed, I really can't see why. One would think they're be no shortage of contenders of a job with a club with a good chance of promotion. Why appoint someone Hull thought wasn't good enough?