Sunderland have sold out their allocation

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

Sure I also read somewhere that their fans weren't happy cos anyone with a membership number could buy 2 tickets. Horrible for them if true cos they've got enough season ticket holders to sell their wembley allocation.....but might explain why they are available for resale at extortionate prices. Maybe touts have got hold of some of theirs.

Nope
1per s/t holder
They did drop an huge bollock mind whereby ‘ordinary’ bought tickets
(Sort of) remedied subsequently by cancelling / refunding sales to non s/t holders
Inevitably (some) s/t holders then greeting & groaning because they were ‘prevented’ from purchasing their preferred seat which has now been bought by those (fellow fans s/t holders) who were ‘behind’ them in the queue
Guess all clubs have some cunts

 

[Cheets]

Wednesday would have sold out quicker

Wednesday have already sold out the 2026 Play-off Final.

 

[Chunkey]

and they would've sold more. Way more. Record numbers more and then double it

In fact they've already sold out their next play off final and they don't even know when it will be

But the KO is set for 15.00

 

[FriethBlade]

It is a one club city, but the population of that city is about 270,000 (same as Rotherham). Sheffield population is at least double that. Though I dare say the demographic make up of Sheffield might be quite different to Sunderland so that could be a factor.

 

[Wincobank S9 Blade]

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Make some good points but if we’re getting in to it there’s context to it than just plucking the City population figures. Sunderland is a vastly smaller City however them and Newcastle have a free for all in terms of a catchment area in the North East. Plus it’s literally just football, except Newcastle having a decent Rugby team it’s limited sports wise outside football, hence why they’re mad for it. So you have a big region in the North East that are 50/50 with Newcastle with the very small handful of Gateshead, Blyth, Hartlepool, Darlington fans. It makes sense really if you do the maths Carol.

 

[Tom Bott]

Yes, I can’t remember Roker Park selling out all the time. It’s amazing how potential fanbases respond to nice facilities…Maybe something for BL expansion doubters to consider.

So thats why the BLUT was only 1/3 full on Monday night, stadium not new enough or big enough.

 

[ForgeBlade]

Don't get why this matters? They're undoubtedly a huge club, with a very large and loyal fanbase. 46,000+ the other night for their 2nd leg. One-club city, the northeast in general is football-mad, of course they have a lot of fans.

So what?

If our players are better than theirs a week tomorrow it won't matter a jot if they have 50,000 in Wembley and another 50,000 outside.

Not criticising the general discussion of them selling out btw. Just wondering why some people (on both sides) are getting their knickers in a twist about them selling out before us. If we don't sell out and they get another 5k tickets, it won't make a tiny bit of difference to what happens on the pitch.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

Wednesday have already sold out the 2026 Play-off Final.

Aye
Although I did realise relegation play offs had been re-introduced

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

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The same website has Sheffield metro area at more than double that.

 

[Pedro Verde]

Well in the last 27years they've averaged less than 30K on just 3 occasions.

It was said they have ALWAYS been well supported
So did football start in 1998 ??

 

[Jon Bon II]

and they would've sold more. Way more. Record numbers more and then double it

In fact they've already sold out their next play off final and they don't even know when it will be

"Memo to Lynn..... Idea for new cash raising initiative...."

 

[ThatJa]

The same website has Sheffield metro area at more than double that.

Yeah but you got to factor in that 720,000 of them support Wednesday!

Plus the 3.5billion fans world wide. Do the math mate

 

[Houston_Blade]

They have a thread on there forum about what players to sign when they are in prem

We had one a couple of months ago!

 

[Houston_Blade]

Here are Sheffield United's average attendances:

England historical attendance and performance

I dont see any average attendance of over 40000 at Sheffield United and barely see one over 30000.

there are a few too many football clubs fans who take the piss out of Sunderland's attendances, 6th highest second tier attendance in the entire European continent - and yet when their average attendances are exposed it doesn't look so great for those clubs then - does it?

Here's a one about Leeds United - did you know they have never had an average attendance of over 40000 in their entire history, even when their ground held that many. In the third division their fans deserted them and the highest average attendance they got was 26,000. Sunderland averaged over 30000 in league 1. Ironically LUFC got their highest ever attendance against....Sunderland.

So sunderland's average attendances this season are higher than both Leeds United and Sheffield United has ever had in their entire history.

If you want to take the piss out of Sunderland's crowds then fine - but we will make sure you have the context and the facts first.

there was never any need for this disrespectful conversation was there?

all you had to say was that Sunderland get canny crowds and leave it at that.

the entire championship - every club - could only dream of getting 46000 plus in their ground and 40000 attendances averages.

Another ‘Attendance FC’. Is Sunderland twinned with Hillsborough?!

 

[moody1889]

and they would've sold more. Way more. Record numbers more and then double it

In fact they've already sold out their next play off final and they don't even know when it will be

The f at b*tards would be on the roof causing structural damage

 

[LBA_Blade]

Make some good points but if we’re getting in to it there’s context to it than just plucking the City population figures. Sunderland is a vastly smaller City however them and Newcastle have a free for all in terms of a catchment area in the North East. Plus it’s literally just football, except Newcastle having a decent Rugby team it’s limited sports wise outside football, hence why they’re mad for it. So you have a big region in the North East that are 50/50 with Newcastle with the very small handful of Gateshead, Blyth, Hartlepool, Darlington fans. It makes sense really if you do the maths Carol.

Newcastle”s rugby team if the Union relegation system worked correctly should have and would have gone bust years ago. They will finish bottom by some distance in the Premiership (Union) when the season wraps up after the final round of regular fixtures and they have done for some time. With them playing on a Friday night out in the sticks it’s difficult to get anything close to 15,000 so I would stick with the just football bit

 

[Inter_blade83]

Well in the last 27years they've averaged less than 30K on just 3 occasions.

They're a huge club

You only have to look at what a new stadium does to galvanise crowds. Cov had a 22k stadium, now 32 and have high 20s on average.

Derby had a smaller stadium and average 30k

Southampton were at the dell (15k???) And now fill 32k regularly

Leicester are the same.

The saying, if you build it they will come, has never been truer

 

[Weasel]

You only have to look at what a new stadium does to galvanise crowds. Cov had a 22k stadium, now 32 and have high 20s on average.

Derby had a smaller stadium and average 30k

Southampton were at the dell (15k???) And now fill 32k regularly

Leicester are the same.

The saying, if you build it they will come, has never been truer

Everton will be the latest example of that.

 

[bladesmanluke]

You only have to look at what a new stadium does to galvanise crowds. Cov had a 22k stadium, now 32 and have high 20s on average.

Derby had a smaller stadium and average 30k

Southampton were at the dell (15k???) And now fill 32k regularly

Leicester are the same.

The saying, if you build it they will come, has never been truer

Almost 100% of the time a football club in the UK builds a bigger stadium, they attract bigger crowds with the only exceptions being the ridiculous Darlo and MK Dons situations

 

[FriethBlade]

The same website has Sheffield metro area at more than double that.

That includes Rotherham so that takes 'our' average attendance to 65k.

The point stands that their crowds are phenomenal but it's a one club city and we have a lot more pro clubs in close proximity than they do in Wednesday, Rotherham, Barnsley, Chesterfield and Donny

 

[Jon Bon II]

You only have to look at what a new stadium does to galvanise crowds. Cov had a 22k stadium, now 32 and have high 20s on average.

Derby had a smaller stadium and average 30k

Southampton were at the dell (15k???) And now fill 32k regularly

Leicester are the same.

The saying, if you build it they will come, has never been truer

This is true but all of those were shit grounds previously, while Bramall Lane is revered throughout the land by fans of all clubs. While I agree with the point you've made, it wouldn't work the same for us to move to a new ground. We definitely need to extend the Lane, not build new somewhere else.

 

[FriethBlade]

This is true but all of those were shit grounds previously, while Bramall Lane is revered throughout the land by fans of all clubs. While I agree with the point you've made, it wouldn't work the same for us to move to a new ground. We definitely need to extend the Lane, not build new somewhere else.

Totally agree Jon Bon, I'm not an architect or a town planner but I d prefer a 2 tier kop to take our capacity to the high 30s/low 40s. No idea how feasible that is though.

We will never average 45 k in my opinion and selfishly I don't want an out of town cardboard cut out stadium. Bramall Lane feels like my second home, my church and id like it to stay that way.

 

[Inter_blade83]

This is true but all of those were shit grounds previously, while Bramall Lane is revered throughout the land by fans of all clubs. While I agree with the point you've made, it wouldn't work the same for us to move to a new ground. We definitely need to extend the Lane, not build new somewhere else.

It would work exactly the same. The matchday experience is still shit for 10k on the kop with outside concourses etc. The only stand with adequate facilities is the John Street and that was built nearly 30 years ago now.

I'm not saying we should or I want us to, but if we did move to a new all purpose 40k stadium with proper facilities, proper space between rows in seating, a decent rake, no posts, no restricted view tickets, and ease of entry, exit etc... we'd easily increase average home crowds by up to 5k (plus 3k dedicated away section).

Plus with all new corporate facilities etc, that side would also increase revenue.

I do love Bramall Lane, but at 6ft 2, I can't sit on the Kop or JSS and to some extent the SS... there's just not enough leg room. The only place I can go comfortably is the Upper Tier, and that's because of the huge rake rather than the space on rows.

 

[Davalon]

We sold out before the Pigs (and Arsenal/Spurs) in 1993.

Meant fuck all in the end.

 

[Booker4]

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This is very misleading because Sunderland, and Newcastle's areas of support intermingle and spread way beyond the population of their respective named city or town in the case of Newcastle. There's 1.1m people who live in the Tyne and Wear area, but that doesn't include Northumberland (320,000) to the north and Durham (532,000) to the south where both clubs draw support from too so in total you're around 2m people to draw from with just TWO clubs!

I don't think it's therefore surprising that Sunderland gets bigger crowds than us. The Sheffield urban area which includes Rotherham is 640,000. Let's add in Stocksbridge and Dronfield at 13,000 and 21,000 respective (according to Google) you'll end up with 674,000 but of course from that figure you can deduct Rotherham's population of 265,000 as Rotherham has its own team. As for success both Sunderland have had more periods in the top flight than we have and Sunderland reached the FA cup final in 1991. Their support prior to the stadium of light was similar to ours around 15 - 22,000 average. I think all of the above considered our support is remarkable.

 

[skegblade]

Come on mate. That won’t happen.

Just been on sunderlands site still a demand for tickets ,# sold out...many are going down the corporate route, after that theres onl 1 option left
Utd wont not sell there tickets ,,, it looks bad for many reasons

 

[Pintor75]

Bramall lane is OK for now, but if we retain Premier League status for a while we need to think of a new stadium out of town, lots of fans are from out of town, including me, and the parking in town is getting ridiculous + petrol etc, etc. 3 hours in the car minimum to see a game, without major hold ups, some a lot more., easily doubles the cost of the ticket price

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

This is very misleading because Sunderland, and Newcastle's areas of support intermingle and spread way beyond the population of their respective named city or town in the case of Newcastle. There's 1.1m people who live in the Tyne and Wear area, but that doesn't include Northumberland (320,000) to the north and Durham (532,000) to the south where both clubs draw support from too so in total you're around 2m people to draw from with just TWO clubs!

I don't think it's therefore surprising that Sunderland gets bigger crowds than us. The Sheffield urban area which includes Rotherham is 640,000. Let's add in Stocksbridge and Dronfield at 13,000 and 21,000 respective (according to Google) you'll end up with 674,000 but of course from that figure you can deduct Rotherham's population of 265,000 as Rotherham has its own team. As for success both Sunderland have had more periods in the top flight than we have and Sunderland reached the FA cup final in 1991. Their support prior to the stadium of light was similar to ours around 15 - 22,000 average. I think all of the above considered our support is remarkable.

The issue is that in the North East you're competing with Newcastle United. An absolute mainstay of Premier League football. The team that broke all records to buy Shearer for £15 million.

So yeah I agree we have more competition in terms of micky mouse clubs like Rotherham, Chesterfield, Doncaster, Barnsley, Pigs. But we're not completely overshadowed by a major club like Newcastle either. That's where Sunderland really shine competing with that.

It does make me wonder though.. if teams like Rotherham and Doncaster ceased to be, how many of them would decide to follow us or the pigs instead?

 

[Nick Jansky]

Bramall lane is OK for now, but if we retain Premier League status for a while we need to think of a new stadium out of town, lots of fans are from out of town, including me, and the parking in town is getting ridiculous + petrol etc, etc. 3 hours in the car minimum to see a game, without major hold ups, some a lot more., easily doubles the cost of the ticket price

If the only reason for moving out of town is for the benefit of the minority of fans that don’t live here, it’s a huge no from me. Bramall Lane is our home and our heritage and its a big enough site to be developed for our needs.

I applaud the commitment of the fans who travel a distance to be here, but accommodating them shouldn’t be any sort of driving force for a move.

 

[Gimli]

Bramall lane is OK for now, but if we retain Premier League status for a while we need to think of a new stadium out of town, lots of fans are from out of town, including me, and the parking in town is getting ridiculous + petrol etc, etc. 3 hours in the car minimum to see a game, without major hold ups, some a lot more., easily doubles the cost of the ticket price

Alternatively, no we do not need to think of a new stadium out of town.