Police "Safety Grounds" rubbish

[FleaPitBlade]

Without going into specifics, the club has to have a safety certificate in place in order to host matches. The terms of that safety certificate are set by the safety advisory committee which is made up of the police, fire brigade, licensing, ambulance service, Building control and a few other bodies who escape me.

If they say certain segregation has to be in place then it has to be in place.

The rights and wrongs of that can be debated to the n'th degree but thats how it works. It's not Just the police who dictate what can and can't be done.

 

[broomhillblade]

If you're asking Foxy to introduce a longer period of time to allow you to edit or delete posts, I agree. But it doesn't belong here.

I had to learn that, and other verses, for my English literature homework about 60 years ago. Unfortunately it is engraved in my brain for life. However, ask me for the birthdays of my grandchildren, or the name of someone I met just five minutes ago, and I won't have a clue.

 

[Sirius]

For those of us of a 'certain age', we don't have to worry about the Boxing Day Massacre.
We saw the Blades beat the Owls 7 - 3.

To be honest, I knew very little about the BDM at the time. I was living thousands of miles away, enjoying Boxing Day under an African sun. Maybe if I had witnessed it I would be as mentally scarred as some still seem to be.

You beat me to it BHB One of the Wendy players who had been tormented by Jimmy Hagan during that epic game lodged with my aunt and uncle. Be assured, I was around at their place later that evening, like a rat up a drain pipe and I gave him heaps.

 

[dublin 10 blade]

For those of us of a 'certain age', we don't have to worry about the Boxing Day Massacre.
We saw the Blades beat the Owls 7 - 3.

To be honest, I knew very little about the BDM at the time. I was living thousands of miles away, enjoying Boxing Day under an African sun. Maybe if I had witnessed it I would be as mentally scarred as some still seem to be.

I was there with my pig family , and couldn't bare to go back on the coach back to Norfolk park , and walked home from the sty and I'm still scared from that event , then in the reverse fixture stood toe to toe as a young un defending our Kop from them pig cunts , and hate them with a vengeance still , now , and forever , get over it , never , don't get me started on the scab fuckers either .

 

[Swanseablade]

And another thing - this 'Scabs' nonsense. Most of the players and many of the Forest fans weren't born when the Miners' Strike was on.

The last time we played Forest there was a 5-year-old kid in front of me with his dad. The child was screaming 'scabs' at the Forest team whilst his dad looked approvingly at his son. The child couldn't possibly know why he was shouting 'scabs' but he had obviously been told to do so by his (not-too-bright) father.

I find it very sad. Time to put it to bed and move on.

Nooooo way man.
It's part of our areas history.
I was sat in school with two other kids while rest of kids were off school, picking coal with their dads.
It was the notts twats that turned their backs on us - never forget.
Fck em.
UTB

 

[broomhillblade]

It could be argued that the 'Notts twats' had more sense than the rest of the miners.

What did the miners' strike actually achieve?

 

[bornablade]

Politics and football are tribal and the Boxing Day Massacre was more than just a humiliating defeat at a football game.

On January 3rd 1970 we Blades (in the 2nd division) looked forward to the first game of the 1970's - an FA Cup third round match against one of the best teams in the country - Everton. We beat them 2-1 and we were all optimistic of what this new decade would bring to our club.

Move forward to the penultimate game of the 1970's - I give you Hillsborough December 26th 1979. The end of the decade couldn't have been more of a contrast to the start.We had some brilliant memories to look back on over the past 10 years, many are recounted on this forum even today. But it was over and the early to mid 1980's were going to be completely different and difficult.

In May 1979 the political landscape of this country completely changed. Just as the 1980's were going to be difficult as a Blade they were going to be equally difficult as Sheffielders.

The week after the BDM the steel strike started and the new Prime Minister, not for the last time flexed her muscles against the steel workers. The result was the loss of thousands of jobs and an industry that created jobs.

As a 14 year old in early 1970 Sheffield was the greatest place on earth to grow up. As a 24 year old in late 1979 it wasn't the greatest place to live.

Which was the greatest defeat, the 4-0 humiliation or the loss of all those jobs? You'll all have your own opinion.

This period demonstrates how interwoven the city of Sheffield and the Blades are. 1979 was to be the end of an era for the Blades and the end of an era for Sheffield. This city was never theirs. This city will bever be theirs.

Chanting names at Nottinghamshire folk because of a strike in the mid 1980's may not suit everyone on this forum but the Boxing Day Massacre should always be remembered.

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[dublin 10 blade]

It could be argued that the 'Notts twats' had more sense than the rest of the miners.

What did the miners' strike actually achieve?

Pity you can't ask the whore who died last year , why her party and class waited so long for revenge over the miners and our community's after making Heath look a fool , never mind her son can plot to over throw a African country to line his own pockets or , her party could start a war to get back into power , not against people doing well for themselves just don't shaft every fucker to do it .
Maybe if there was still heavy industry left in Sheffield , instead of a bronze statue in meadow hall , I would be S2 Blade instead of Dublin 10 blade , not disappointed with the way my life's panned out 2 fantastic kids and a lovely partner but history is there for a reason that's why some choose not to forget , nothing personal BB . Just a personal choice
UTB .

 

[Swanseablade]

It could be argued that the 'Notts twats' had more sense than the rest of the miners.

What did the miners' strike actually achieve?

It achieved fuck all- true.
Why?
Cos they weren't united- simples.
It's unfortunate that you tend to get extremes up against each other in politics etc. e.g. To counteract Thatchers hardcore policies - Scargill was extremely militant.
A more balanced NUM leader may have had more joy at that time. I know he was unpopular (& I can see why) BUT whatever you thoughts about him history has proved that he was right in what he was fighting for and his concerns for the industry and ultimately the communities that the industry supported.
Very sad....

 

[Rodley]

Give them the dogs abuse, they're about on par with Wednesdayites. They'll all be stood in their green "Brian" jumpers dishing out abuse for 90 minutes to their club legend's son. Just about sums them up. And don't get me started on their no-mark accent.

Rivalry is what footballs about.

UTB

 

[metalblade]

Well you just have to ask are there any pits left in Nottinghmshire to see how those scab bastards let down not only the miners but the working classes, if they get scab chants then it is thoroughly deserved. The country is still paying for their decision to back the Thatcher government who left us with no real industries other than supermarkets, insurance and banking, look where that led us over the last few years as usual a Tory election victory is followed closely by a recession.

 

[zablade]

Because the SY police are scared shitless of anything happening after the Hillsboro disaster so are far too cautious in their actions and decisions relating to football.

Also they see it as a way of fleecing the clubs and city council of more money for providing Police coverage of games, I counted 8 riot vans parked In and around the city centre and ground the other week for that notorious and incendiary fixture of Sheffield United vs Shrewsbury Town. Was that level of Policing really necessary for a fixture like that?

 

[ShockingBadBuy]

Another reason the miners' strike achieved little was the strength of the forces pitted against them. These included, in varying degrees of importance and to various extents: an authoritarian government that had openly declared war on trade unions, that had framed highly politicised legislation in order to do this, and that had been planning for the strike for several years; the media; the police; the legal system; the military (whose deployment Thatch had planned for, under the auspices of a "state of national emergency", and who were present on picket lines, it was alleged, wearing police uniforms). A bit like David Weir's red and white warriors playing Guardiola's Barcelona. Away. The miners never had a chance. How much difference the UDM breakaway made, in the end, is a difficult question to answer.

Personally, I blame cricket. Here's a snippet from Keith Farnsworth's BEFORE AND AFTER BRAMALL LANE:

"Cricket in Sheffield in the mid-18th century was played on a rather modest scale ... . Evidently cock-fighting and bull and bear-baiting were much more popular pastimes; so much so that in 1751 the local authorities, alarmed by the widespread enthusiasm for these cruel activities, engaged a group of professional cricketers in the hope that they might persuade the populace to turn to a much more respectable and healthy sport. It was not recorded whether this venture had the desired effect, but at least within 20 years Sheffield boasted a team strong enough to challenge the might of Nottingham, where a strong cricket tradition already existed. It was in 1771 that the first of a long and eventful series of fixtures with Nottingham began. ... Unfortunately, this series never quite managed to become an annual event: partly because of a lack of funds, but also, as the games engendered considerable friction, disputes arose and feuds developed which prompted suspension of the fixtures until good relations had been restored" (p1).

Farnsworth has some interesting detail on deaths at a fixture between the two cities when a stand collapsed, and plenty of on-field argy-bargy. The dislike that so many in Sheffield feel for Nottingham may go deeper, historically and culturally, than just the Miners' Strike.

 

[Zanzibar]

Well you just have to ask are there any pits left in Nottinghmshire to see how those scab bastards let down not only the miners but the working classes, if they get scab chants then it is thoroughly deserved. The country is still paying for their decision to back the Thatcher government who left us with no real industries other than supermarkets, insurance and banking, look where that led us over the last few years as usual a Tory election victory is followed closely by a recession.

Followed swiftly by a Labour bankruptcy.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Another reason the miners' strike achieved little was the strength of the forces pitted against them. These included, in varying degrees of importance and to various extents: an authoritarian government that had openly declared war on trade unions, that had framed highly politicised legislation in order to do this, and that had been planning for the strike for several years; the media; the police; the legal system; the military (whose deployment Thatch had planned for, under the auspices of a "state of national emergency", and who were present on picket lines, it was alleged, wearing police uniforms). A bit like David Weir's red and white warriors playing Guardiola's Barcelona. Away. The miners never had a chance. How much difference the UDM breakaway made, in the end, is a difficult question to answer.

Personally, I blame cricket. Here's a snippet from Keith Farnsworth's BEFORE AND AFTER BRAMALL LANE:

"Cricket in Sheffield in the mid-18th century was played on a rather modest scale ... . Evidently cock-fighting and bull and bear-baiting were much more popular pastimes; so much so that in 1751 the local authorities, alarmed by the widespread enthusiasm for these cruel activities, engaged a group of professional cricketers in the hope that they might persuade the populace to turn to a much more respectable and healthy sport. It was not recorded whether this venture had the desired effect, but at least within 20 years Sheffield boasted a team strong enough to challenge the might of Nottingham, where a strong cricket tradition already existed. It was in 1771 that the first of a long and eventful series of fixtures with Nottingham began. ... Unfortunately, this series never quite managed to become an annual event: partly because of a lack of funds, but also, as the games engendered considerable friction, disputes arose and feuds developed which prompted suspension of the fixtures until good relations had been restored" (p1).

Farnsworth has some interesting detail on deaths at a fixture between the two cities when a stand collapsed, and plenty of on-field argy-bargy. The dislike that so many in Sheffield feel for Nottingham may go deeper, historically and culturally, than just the Miners' Strike.

Even ice hockey took on Nottingham as the devil