8 second goalkeeper rule

[McGrath]

Yet the powers that be love to change everything to favour a new style of play. The offside law has changed so many times, the handball law with the crazy drawings is another one and constant tweaks as well as bringing in VAR or not depending on what league or competition you are in and what round of said competition you are playing in. I follow Rugby Union and although teams do adapt to the referee especially when it comes to scrums, certain nationalities will favour certain things and you tend to see French referees if you lose a few scrum penalties against you, they will just keep being given.

I don't know why the powers that be muck around in football so much. It's like they feel like they've got to do something, so just do it. The only worthwhile change in my lifetime was to introduce the back pass rule.

Rugby Union just seems to be constantly trying to grapple with how to maintain rules from the amateur era that they feel is in the DNA game, whilst have it played by professional 18 stone plus athletic monsters. The answer is you can't without making it excessively complicated that's a turn off for the casual sports fan

 

[HighfieldBlade]

Only a Fool Breaks the eight Two Second Rule...

 

[Not_a_Cheat]

Not strictly purely Blades if course, but an important rule change.
8 seconds from keeper holding to releasing, or a corner awarded for the beginning of next season.

What is the new eight second goalkeeper rule in football?

From this summer goalkeepers will be allowed eight seconds from catching the ball to releasing it, in the latest attempt to cut down on time-wasting.

www.bbc.co.uk

I haven't read it, but giving a few corners away for the start of next season means we can take the piss by time wasting if we need to this season. Am I missing something haha

 

[Spot the Vas]

Is it ball in hand that counts towards the 8 seconds? Could a keeper just keep bouncing the ball and so just restart the 8 seconds each time it’s in hand? It just says 8 seconds from catching to releasing.

 

[MiserableBlader]

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Not strictly purely Blades if course, but an important rule change.
8 seconds from keeper holding to releasing, or a corner awarded for the beginning of next season.

What is the new eight second goalkeeper rule in football?

From this summer goalkeepers will be allowed eight seconds from catching the ball to releasing it, in the latest attempt to cut down on time-wasting.

www.bbc.co.uk

Ridiculous.
JUST ENFORCE THE SIX SECOND RULE.
Sometimes it seems nearer six minutes.

 

[bruce]

Imagine losing a game during a two week window* where they decided to add on stoppage time to a ridiculous level**.

* I appreciate it was more than two weeks

** I also appreciate that we could have won that Spurs game and we probably would still have gone down

I agree that even if we had won that Spurs game, it is likely we would still have gone down. However, I think that match inflicted a lot of psychological damage. We hadn't lost by more than a one goal margin until the games following that match. The next game was Newcastle. If we'd beaten Spurs I don't think we would have lost by 8 to Newcastle.

 

[Nick Jansky]

played by professional 18 stone plus athletic monsters. The answer is you can't without making it excessively complicated that's a turn off for the casual sports fan

As long as the 18 stone plus athletic monsters continue to maul and paw at each other in the way that they do the homoeroticism will still be there, and I’ve always thought that’s the biggest turn on for those who watch that ridiculous game.

 

[Selly]

If we'd beaten Spurs I don't think we would have lost by 8 to Newcastle.

I'm afraid other events the day of that Newcastle game IMO had a far greater impact than the Spurs game. I think we still get spanked - but perhaps not by 8.

That Newcastle game should never have gone ahead.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Forcing a player to release the ball before his team mates are in position? How fucking stupid what’s next the 5 seconds to make a pass rule … followed by the only 3 passes allowed in your own half rule ….

I wish people would just fuck off and leave it how it is or even was

Think I agree with you.

In theory this 8 second rule sounds fine……but in practice will we see some bizarre, highly controversial scenarios.

1: As you say what if the goalie is forced to boot it up field when there’s no one there? I suppose this will become quite common and look stupid.
2: What if a goalie takes 9 seconds to release the ball or 8.5 seconds?
There’ll be incidents on social media doing a slo-mo count down where on 8 seconds the ball is still in the goalies hands but the ref didn’t give a corner.
The post match conversation might be more about this rule than the actual game.

I agree with an earlier comment…..
Like the 5 subs from 7 players rule and the time wasting added on rule…..this is a sneaky way to give the PL teams an even bigger advantage.
So it becomes even more difficult for a promoted team from the championship to survive in the Premier league.

 

[dazzlingblade]

Bloody hell that's Dean Henderson screwed, used to take him 26 seconds to get up after falling on the ball from a trickled shot

 

[blades78]

The ignored 6 second rule, now becomes the ignored 8 second rule.

Same as the yellow for diving, particularly when VAR is used for review. I've yet to see a referee give a yellow for diving when a penalty decision is reviewed.

 

[PotterLog]

Having thought about this, I think they should have just doubled the time on the current rule. The reason it’s ignored is because everyone accepts that six seconds isn’t reasonable or realistic after a goalkeeper collects a ball in a crowded penalty area, for example. Both teams usually want to reset. Eight seconds isn’t going to help. It’ll be rushed and the refs will find themselves having to make borderline calls all the time (at least at first, until, as people are predicting, they start to ignore it like they ignore the current one).

I’d have just extended the time to 12 or 15 seconds - five seconds to get to their feet, five for the teams to reset and five seconds’ last warning when you really have to be looking to release the ball - and made sure it’s enforced.

The rule then matches reality, the ref will still rarely need to use it but keepers can have no complaints if they really take the piss and go beyond 15 seconds.

 

[MTBlade]

I think its up to the fans to police this .

On mass, as soon as the keeper has it in there hands, the countdown starts 8, 7, 6 etc.

It will then help everyone see how it effects the game.

Yes, some fans may take different times, but thats exactly the same as the refs and inconsistencies.

My only other worry is, this could be used as a tactic against us, with how bad we defend our attacking corners .

 

[vas borbokis]

Good in principle. Suspect there'll be a lot more keepers "injured" on the floor after getting possession of the ball.
Resulting in a free kick for keeper, or unopposed drop ball for keeper.
They'll be smart enough to befuddle refs anyway.

 

[Selly]

Good in principle. Suspect there'll be a lot more keepers "injured" on the floor after getting possession of the ball.
Resulting in a free kick for keeper, or unopposed drop ball for keeper.
They'll be smart enough to befuddle refs anyway.

Quite - this is already the favoured tactic of a few keepers (our keepers are not excluded from this - Wes was particularly good at "getting a knock to the head" when we ere under a sustained bit of pressure) and you can only see it increasing as no ref ever asks the keeper to leave the field of play.

 

[WorkingtonBlade]

I think its up to the fans to police this .

On mass, as soon as the keeper has it in there hands, the countdown starts 8, 7, 6 etc.

It will then help everyone see how it effects the game.

Yes, some fans may take different times, but thats exactly the same as the refs and inconsistencies.

My only other worry is, this could be used as a tactic against us, with how bad we defend our attacking corners .

We have done that in years past (for the 6 seconds) at away games when we’re behind - although we counted upwards from 1, which I think works better as if you go downwards from 8, once you get to zero you’ve nowhere to go and it just sort of ends. Counting upwards once you start to get to 10+ it really makes the point and the shouts get louder and more indignant with every number (despite the fact that everyone counts too fast…).

The ref ignored us of course, and never took any action, but I do think it puts pressure on the opposition keeper as they’re aware that the time they’re taking is being highlighted. I think it’s one of the more effective ways of fans affecting the game and I can see it being done quite a lot with this new rule.

 

[CornwallBlade]

I think it's a good idea. Stops cheating with a deterrent that fits the crime - aka wasting 3-5 seconds which isn't huge as a one off infringement.

Next for me would be to stop the throw in encroachment.
My view is if a player constantly tries to gain ground, the referee starts putting the vanishing spray down. If they overstep that mark then it's a yellow card, and a throw in to the other team 10 meters further down the pitch.

This, lino should do it

 

[Rufus Smalls]

Any rule is only as good as it's implemented. As we know from other examples, they are usually done so badly and inconsistent in its application.

Yep.

Reference to the surrounding the ref or foul mouthing the ref’s assistants - very rarely lead to a caution.

 

[bruce]

That Newcastle game should never have gone ahead.

I think you are right.

 

[Jan Age]

Think I agree with you.

In theory this 8 second rule sounds fine……but in practice will we see some bizarre, highly controversial scenarios.

1: As you say what if the goalie is forced to boot it up field when there’s no one there? I suppose this will become quite common and look stupid.
2: What if a goalie takes 9 seconds to release the ball or 8.5 seconds?
There’ll be incidents on social media doing a slo-mo count down where on 8 seconds the ball is still in the goalies hands but the ref didn’t give a corner.
The post match conversation might be more about this rule than the actual game.

I agree with an earlier comment…..
Like the 5 subs from 7 players rule and the time wasting added on rule…..this is a sneaky way to give the PL teams an even bigger advantage.
So it becomes even more difficult for a promoted team from the championship to survive in the Premier league.

Every rule that’s come on during the last 5 years has been for the benefit of bigger clubs

 

[Bath Blade]

Every rule that’s come on during the last 5 years has been for the benefit of bigger clubs

I’d say every rule for the last 33 years.

 

[Yewsman]

Both sports are leagues apart in their complexity and rugby needs to innovate on their rules to try to bring in more neutrals.

Rugby, for all its faults, does do some things well though. There is definitely things we can learn from their successes and failures too.

I think football could learn a lot from rugby. No arguing with the ref and if you do you lose 10 yards. Only captain can speak to ref. Was introduced in football but doesn’t seem to be enforced. TMO in stead of VAR. Everyone including the spectators know what’s going on and it doesn’t take 5 or 6 minutes to get a decision. Yellow card means player is off for 10 mins not the whole match. If it’s potentially a red card the decision is reviewed properly during the 10 mins. Players don’t dive or fall over feigning a trip or going down deliberately with just some minor contact.

 

[Conroy]

There is no such thing as time wasting anymore as it is added on at the end; however 'slowing the game down' maybe there is a point. For this to work there has to be an audible beeper in the stadium so it cannot favour any team...