Tactics this season

[Tony_Kaufman]

What exactly are our tactics this season? Off the ball they're pretty obvious, but with the ball I can't figure out what we're trying to do or what anyone's expected role is in attack.

Hamer and O'Hare are all over the place and don't influence anything positive going forward.

I just can't see what our attacking style is supposed to be. I also can't see what Wilder's plan B is other than like for like changes and sticking with plan A, whatever that may be.

 

[coolasanidiot]

What exactly are our tactics this season? Off the ball they're pretty obvious, but with the ball I can't figure out what we're trying to do or what anyone's expected role is in attack.

Hamer and O'Hare are all over the place and don't influence anything positive going forward.

I just can't see what our attacking style is supposed to be. I also can't see what Wilder's plan B is other than like for like changes and sticking with plan A, whatever that may be.

Our tactics are good Tony we are joint 2nd still. Few injuries have done us over Christmas but hanging in there. OK we lose tonight but we gave it a go- no complaints from me.

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

Our tactics are good Tony we are joint 2nd still. Few injuries have done us over Christmas but hanging in there. OK we lose tonight but we gave it a go- no complaints from me.

I'm not talking about results. I mean when we have the ball, what exactly are our tactics as we look a mess going forwards.

 

[Jan Age]

What exactly are our tactics this season? Off the ball they're pretty obvious, but with the ball I can't figure out what we're trying to do or what anyone's expected role is in attack.

Hamer and O'Hare are all over the place and don't influence anything positive going forward.

I just can't see what our attacking style is supposed to be. I also can't see what Wilder's plan B is other than like for like changes and sticking with plan A, whatever that may be.

My lad asked me tonight what our tactics are (he’s 7)…. Silence

 

[Bladesman]

What exactly are our tactics this season? Off the ball they're pretty obvious, but with the ball I can't figure out what we're trying to do or what anyone's expected role is in attack.

Hamer and O'Hare are all over the place and don't influence anything positive going forward.

I just can't see what our attacking style is supposed to be. I also can't see what Wilder's plan B is other than like for like changes and sticking with plan A, whatever that may be.

I thought the plan was to be solid defensively but be clinical and quick on the counter attack like we saw in the first game at Preston. Where I think we scored from their corners.

Problem now is teams are saying to us "Here you have the ball" and we seem unsure of the best way to open a team up.

 

[Sheffsteel]

I'm not talking about results. I mean when we have the ball, what exactly are our tactics as we look a mess going forwards.

A clear tactic is being patient controlling possession passing it around the back building up slowly.

However I agree up front it seems a mish mash. There must be some team tactical plan but nothing stands out for me.
O'Hare and Hamer are good at those little passes and flicks, so a striker who can make runs behind like Campbell seems a clear tactic.
However none of our attacking tactics seem to suit Moore, we don't cross it in enough and Moore is usually marked up.

We clearly have some quality players and often we'll score from a piece of individual brilliance or a nice piece of football
like last week regards the link play when O'Hare did a back flick for Brooks to score a well worked goal.
Everything was set up for efficient 1-0 and 2-0 wins.

A clear tactic was to make us defensively strong having a 6ft 7 central defender in Souttar.
My grandson and I always used to feel nervous when defends corners but we always used to say other teams are wasting their time with corners or crosses but 99% of the time Souttar and Ahmedhodzic clear it with ease. Now we don't have Souttar we're no longer a clean sheet machine.

 

[robbiez666]

What exactly are our tactics this season? Off the ball they're pretty obvious, but with the ball I can't figure out what we're trying to do or what anyone's expected role is in attack.

Hamer and O'Hare are all over the place and don't influence anything positive going forward.

I just can't see what our attacking style is supposed to be. I also can't see what Wilder's plan B is other than like for like changes and sticking with plan A, whatever that may be.

We've done incredibly well to be 2nd at this stage with such a threadbare squad but I agree about the tactics.

We've been really solid at the back and have players (Hamer, JRS, O'Hare) who can win matches. We've only scored 3 goals once. People used to make comments about only having a good 45 under Hecky but we don't even get that. There have been very few games, of late, where we've looked good for long spells. We've been exceedingly clinical and defended exceedingly well but it would seem our luck is beginning to run out. I do wonder what we're trying to do a lot of the time.

 

[Blademan89]

What exactly are our tactics this season? Off the ball they're pretty obvious, but with the ball I can't figure out what we're trying to do or what anyone's expected role is in attack.

Hamer and O'Hare are all over the place and don't influence anything positive going forward.

I just can't see what our attacking style is supposed to be. I also can't see what Wilder's plan B is other than like for like changes and sticking with plan A, whatever that may be.

I'll have a go then.

I think we are trying for hamer to come in and pick up a more central role and then left wing to cut in also.. with target man (moore) holding up and linking play to hamer and ohare and or feeding left win through.

I think we also playing eith the inverted wingers so hamer can cut in and shoot with his stronger foot and like wise on lw.

We was hoping ohare could do a Duffy type role / ndeyie, but he hasn't so far.

All this whilst retaining / dominating possession being the key factor, sometimes more of a hindrance and it's too easy for players to fall into habbit of safe passing, not taking a man on or breaking out and wiping a first time cross in etc.

I think mixing up with Brooks and Sakyi on either wing to be normal wingers as such would be nice plan B.

 

[moody1889]

Our tactics are good Tony we are joint 2nd still. Few injuries have done us over Christmas but hanging in there. OK we lose tonight but we gave it a go- no complaints from me.

That Is because we have individual quality like Hamer O Hare Burrows that have bailed him out.

We have more than rode our luck and last few games we have been exposed.

 

[1889]

The way I see it, we try to pass our way through teams, but it’s all too predictable and the opposition just stay in shape and all too often, we end up going back towards our own goal.
On the rare occasion someone carries the ball and maybe beats a player, we unsettle their defence and make them break shape and create a bit of space for us to exploit. But it happens so infrequently, in all honesty, when we are retaining possession at all costs, I don’t think we are great to watch.
Because the team lacks anyone with real pace who could latch onto a pass through the lines, we can only try to manufacture opportunities to whip the ball in from the by line…..however long it might take to do so.

That said, we have to concede that the squad is desperately short of cover and if we don’t bring four or five in, preferably with some pace, I think it will cost us any chance of promotion.

 

[PrestwichBlade]

What exactly are our tactics this season? Off the ball they're pretty obvious, but with the ball I can't figure out what we're trying to do or what anyone's expected role is in attack.

Hamer and O'Hare are all over the place and don't influence anything positive going forward.

I just can't see what our attacking style is supposed to be. I also can't see what Wilder's plan B is other than like for like changes and sticking with plan A, whatever that may be.

This is a concern of mine too. I think Wilder deserves plaudits for the summer rebuild and getting us in the position we are in, but as with Wilder version 1, I struggle to see a plan b if plan a isn't working

 

[Houston_Blade]

It’s a variation on the last couple of Championship seasons under Hecky. The tactic has been “Give it to MGW/Ndiaye/Hamer and hope they do something”

 

[1889]

This is a concern of mine too. I think Wilder deserves plaudits for the summer rebuild and getting us in the position we are in, but as with Wilder version 1, I struggle to see a plan b if plan a isn't working

I agree, the Summer rebuild was amazing business, so good in fact, that I couldn’t help thinking that it was a fresh set of eyes selecting the players.
Because whilst CW has bought some gems, he’s also bought a lot of mediocrity too.
Anyway, whoever it was, I hope the same people are selecting the January targets

 

[HeySethUTB]

My main worry is when Wilder says things like we’ve amassed 50 points after playing everyone once already as if that’s proof will do the same again, 3 points down tonight.

The summer rebuild no doubt was genuinely impressive, and to get us to where we are after that deserves credit. We do however look and have looked like we’ve been grinding out most games this season, the old adage “if you can win when you’ve played poorly, it’s a sign of a good team” was only ever intended for the odd game, we could quite easily end up unlucky in that regard.

I can honestly say only at Blackburn and at home to Oxford have we put in a complete performance. Pace in behind is an issue, progressive runners doesn’t seem to be a thing, and a tactically sedated Hamer out wide just seems a waste. But in wilder we trust, we have to, let’s hope January gets us what we want.

 

[AWetFlannel]

The way I see it, we try to pass our way through teams, but it’s all too predictable and the opposition just stay in shape and all too often, we end up going back towards our own goal.
On the rare occasion someone carries the ball and maybe beats a player, we unsettle their defence and make them break shape and create a bit of space for us to exploit. But it happens so infrequently, in all honesty, when we are retaining possession at all costs, I don’t think we are great to watch.
Because the team lacks anyone with real pace who could latch onto a pass through the lines, we can only try to manufacture opportunities to whip the ball in from the by line…..however long it might take to do so.

That said, we have to concede that the squad is desperately short of cover and if we don’t bring four or five in, preferably with some pace, I think it will cost us any chance of promotion.

I think most of the time we try to attack through the middle with quick one-twos. Hasn't worked often enough this season, but Rak Sayki, Hamer, Davies, O'Hare, Campbell and Brooks have all had some success with it.

 

[moody1889]

Moments of individual brilliance more often than not are the reason we are where we are not some tactical masterclass that is for sure.

 

[Russtheblade]

That Is because we have individual quality like Hamer O Hare Burrows that have bailed him out.

We have more than rode our luck and last few games we have been exposed.

We had a huge rebuild in the summer but were unable to finish the job due to lack of funds, now we've lost the spine of the team to injury, we desperately need reinforcements at cb, midfield,wide left & upfront,we're still in a great position but we need to get business done early if poss ( I appreciate we may have to wait for any top flight loans) CW is doing an incredible job with limited resources, we'll be OK UTB

 

[Bladezz]

What exactly are our tactics this season? Off the ball they're pretty obvious, but with the ball I can't figure out what we're trying to do or what anyone's expected role is in attack.

Hamer and O'Hare are all over the place and don't influence anything positive going forward.

I just can't see what our attacking style is supposed to be. I also can't see what Wilder's plan B is other than like for like changes and sticking with plan A, whatever that may be.

In possession it’s 325

Out of possession it’s 442.

I read wherez plan B and realised I’m probably wasting my time.

 

[Aston max]

I fear for Cw, I would imagine the new owners will have done their due diligence with regards to the playing side plus the involvement of des taylor in spoting player recruitment
With the money involved I should think they already have a shortlist of replacements ready if they decide he's not the man
I really hope it's a case of backing him with quality signings but as previous seasons have shown Cw doesn't handle adversity well

 

[moody1889]

We had a huge rebuild in the summer but were unable to finish the job due to lack of funds, now we've lost the spine of the team to injury, we desperately need reinforcements at cb, midfield,wide left & upfront,we're still in a great position but we need to get business done early if poss ( I appreciate we may have to wait for any top flight loans) CW is doing an incredible job with limited resources, we'll be OK UTB

I am not doubting that but CW let's himself down in the big games our record in them is awful.

We have done brilliant on the whole against everyone else but when it comes to the top teams we have struggled and a lot of that is self inflicted.

Injuries or not I would rather see us have a go than go out with a wimper.

 

[Bladezz]

My lad asked me tonight what our tactics are (he’s 7)…. Silence

You need to teach him better. You’re more the issue than anyone else it seems.

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

Our tactic is to bore teams to death

Having intricate little paceless diddymen tippy tapping around a big lumbering centre forward is fundamental to this approach