O’Hare

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Begs the question what is different between his role and the people around him at Coventry Vs here? I genuinely don't know how he was played at Coventry but here he seems to be one of the highest up the pitch looking to thread a pass to nobody. He mainly just presses.
 
Looks nothing like the player I saw at Coventry.

In his defence, he had a significant injury last season which is why we were able to pick him up on a free.

There's definitely a player in there, but patience required. I do think he should be rotated against Luton though.
We could do with seeing another option and maybe a cameo role would suit him this week (3rd game).
 
It seems like he might blow hot and cold to be fair. Has had a couple of poor games where he’s not been involved as much as he’d like

But he’s also had some excellent games imo and produced good bits. There aren’t many flair/creative players who are truly consistent. (Hamer might be an exception!?)

Weirdly it seems like Brewster might be an option in that position. Thought he showed something today when he came on and looked positive.
 
It’s obvious.
Players around him. We have none he’s just isolated along with whoever the other striker is.
He only looks to play with Hamer.

From what I’ve seen he’s slowly being drawn down to the level of others.
 
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Seems to have good spells in some games and go missing in games as well, the 1st goal against Hull and the goal against Watford where he's created those goals. He even played a part in both of our goals against QPR.

Definitely a talented player in there but I think we do need to see more from him.

If I had 1 criticism of him it's that he needs to get closer to the striker at times, whether it's Moore, Brewster or Campbell he does need to get closer to them so he can receive their knockdowns and allow them to get into good goalscoring positions.

Surely that last part will come with playing more games though.
 
Last night wasn't a great game for anyone- but I think people are under valuing O Hare somewhat- OK granted he ain't scoring but his non stop work rate , harrying from the front is exceptional - and without doubt is contributing to our goals against column being so good.

His short pass weight is also excellent. His addition is definitely positive.
 
Agree that he's been slightly disappointing overall so far, but he was one of our best players last night. (In an admittedly bad bunch).

He's playing in his preferred position, we just need to improve in the final third a bit and he should improve with us.
 
It’s obvious.
Players around him. We have none he’s just isolated along with whoever the other striker is.
He only looks to play with Hamer.

From what I’ve seen he’s slowly being drawn down to the level of others.
Oh so it’s the other players fault he isn’t playing well. Got it
 
It’s obvious.
Players around him. We have none he’s just isolated along with whoever the other striker is.
He only looks to play with Hamer.

From what I’ve seen he’s slowly being drawn down to the level of others.
"The others" would have us joint top of the league if it wasn't for a previous points deduction.
 
My observations with O'Hare is that he appears to be targeted by the opposition (maybe more than our other players) and he is quite easily brushed off the ball. Not sure what the answer is as he has a "slight" frame; maybe he could be beefed up a little more?
 
I think this is
Is it the formation?

He seems to be a little isolated as Hamer and Brooks/RakSakyi are very wide:

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If we went with 3 central midfielders, him and A.N.Other could link up behind Moore better:

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I think this is it. When I have seen him and thought "wow", is when he giving a pass moving, receiving the ball, giving again. He was an option at every stage.

I think we are slightly lopsided and this also varies on who is on the pitch.

Hamer comes more central as Burrows overlaps more, whereas Brooks and Rak-Saki are holding wider. which is the same side that Gilchrist for the most part stays further back.

I think if Hamer and Brooks/Rak-Saki squeezed in closer to O'Hare, he would have more options. I think Blaster may have pushed closer to him as well which might be another reason he has not been at his best for the past few games.

I think he looks a great player, just think we aren't seeing his best yet.
 
My observations with O'Hare is that he appears to be targeted by the opposition (maybe more than our other players) and he is quite easily brushed off the ball. Not sure what the answer is as he has a "slight" frame; maybe he could be beefed up a little more?
We can't all have big arms like you LM 😉
 



Is it the formation?

He seems to be a little isolated as Hamer and Brooks/RakSakyi are very wide:

View attachment 194087

If we went with 3 central midfielders, him and A.N.Other could link up behind Moore better:

View attachment 194088
That option 2 would mean we have no width, and we’d have three defensive central midfielders. My concern with option two is that it may not provide enough attacking support, potentially resulting in our front three pursuing long balls. While our current approach to building play on the wings is effective, Gus is not ideally the right person to be a left winger.

Additionally, option two places significant demands on Gilchrist to provide width, despite his limited attacking capabilities.
 
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It’s obvious.
Players around him. We have none he’s just isolated along with whoever the other striker is.
He only looks to play with Hamer.

From what I’ve seen he’s slowly being drawn down to the level of others.
Is that level top of the league if we ignore the points deduction?

He hasn't set the world alight yet and I do feel that our defence are carrying us at the minute. The midfield isn't clicking without Blaster. I'm not sure playing Souza and Peck together allows us to get enough men forward when we have the ball as they both seem to like playing deep. Moving Hamer more central could help but he's scored 4 from his current position amd we are the only undefeated team so what do I know?
 
Ohare hasn’t been amazing but he definitely hasn’t been poor same goes for Hamer these last few games

Id be playing Brewster on the wing and hamer in the 10
 
It’s obvious.
Players around him. We have none he’s just isolated along with whoever the other striker is.
He only looks to play with Hamer.

From what I’ve seen he’s slowly being drawn down to the level of others.
I mean this in all seriousness
Are you OK ?
You seem to be a very very negative person
 
the 1st goal against Hull and the goal against Watford where he's created those goals
The ball the Hamer at Hull was poor. It forced Hamer in to a shot from a wide angle which he executed magnificently.
 
Seems to have good spells in some games and go missing in games as well, the 1st goal against Hull and the goal against Watford where he's created those goals. He even played a part in both of our goals against QPR.

Definitely a talented player in there but I think we do need to see more from him.

If I had 1 criticism of him it's that he needs to get closer to the striker at times, whether it's Moore, Brewster or Campbell he does need to get closer to them so he can receive their knockdowns and allow them to get into good goalscoring positions.

Surely that last part will come with playing more games though.
I was actually thinking the opposite. He doesn’t seem to have the physicality to play that high up the pitch. I think he might be more dangerous dropping deeper and picking it up of vini and peck, then facing forward rather than having his back to goal all the time.

Didn’t see much of him at CoV but I think he played more of a Duffy role than a mcgoldrick role (although tbf McG used to drop back to wherever he wanted and still was a complete baller - one of a kind though).
 
If he continues to be fairly anonymous, could we consider playing Rak-Sakyi in O'Hares position with Brookes on the wing? Or a front two of Moore and Campbell?
 
I think like Moore he has been solid. Without being great. I don't think his performances deserves a knee jerk reaction. He has done enough to stay in the team in my opinion. And i don't think he goes missing like some have said. I always notice him running about! Maybe a controversial opinion but I don't think Hamer has been good for a couple of games. Gives the ball away a few times a game. Nobody seems to be on his back.
 
Just said in another thread, but part of our strategy at the moment is to give the ball to O'Hare/Hamer/JSR when they're under pressure and rely on them being good enough to cope with it. O'Hare in particular is receiving the ball high up the pitch, which means he's got to get it spot on a lot of the times or he's giving up possession. When he does get free of his marker we're suddenly in a threatening position, but when he (and Hamer in the last couple of games) isn't right on top of it they're just losing the ball.
 
If he continues to be fairly anonymous, could we consider playing Rak-Sakyi in O'Hares position with Brookes on the wing? Or a front two of Moore and Campbell?
What about Moore and Brewster
Ohare isn’t on it at the moment Campbell is poor
 



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