Brooks vs Rak-Sakyi (per 90)

[AWetFlannel]

Brooks or Rak-Sakyi?

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Watched this episode last night, don't think either lad has it in em to roll with Marlo.

Not seen enough of JRS yet but he's obviously a really talented right winger.

Brooks was good pre season and has been outstanding in the league and against the Dingles when he came on. Thought he tailed off badly last season and would've never expected this level from him in a different position. Brooks starts next game for me.

 

[Lama]

While Man City fans might debate the respective abilities of Foden, Grealish, Doku and Silva, the coaching staff probably don't: They understand they have multiple good options depending on fitness and opposition.

This is something we have in wide positions too, embrace it and try not to worry too much who's better.

JRS and AB are both great options at this level, which leads to competition and ultimately, helps them both improve.

 

[ancientblade]

brooks has to be our number 1 choice on the right hes done nothing wrong for me this season and as another poster has said he tracks back and helps gilchrist out think its a.promising pairing down our right rak - saki could cause havoc in the last 20 running at tiring full backs thats the way to go for me also agree with another poster on o'hare ive been slightly dissapointed with him so far bit too many tricks and flicks for my liking but if we play him give him 65 then bring him off

 

[brownblade]

play with both wingers and even have them swapping flanks every 5 minutes , to really rattle tired defences.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Would love to see both together. Brooks on the left, JRS on the right.

I agree. Who gets dropped to facilitate is a more interesting debate for me; Hamer, O'Hare, Souza, Arblaster

 

[BalticBlade]

brooks has to be our number 1 choice on the right hes done nothing wrong for me this season and as another poster has said he tracks back and helps gilchrist out think its a.promising pairing down our right rak - saki could cause havoc in the last 20 running at tiring full backs thats the way to go for me also agree with another poster on o'hare ive been slightly dissapointed with him so far bit too many tricks and flicks for my liking but if we play him give him 65 then bring him off

Brooks will spend most of his career in the EFL, JRS will spend most of his in the Premier League.

 

[Frank the tank]

Brooks will spend most of his career in the EFL, JRS will spend most of his in the Premier League.

How can you possibly know that
?

 

[Tarqs]

I’m still a bit perplexed by this end product argument against Brooks. He has been involved in goals in every game he’s played in, in the league.

Was our best attacking threat in 2 of the 3 games he’s played in.

Should have had another assist too, if it wasn’t for Moore fluffing a chance from 6 yards out.

What more do people realistically want? The second coming of Cristiano Ronaldo?

Indeed, I don't get it either... it's like one person said it, then everyone just runs with it.

 

[BalticBlade]

How can you possibly know that
?

I don't. It's called an O.P.I.N.I.O.N.
Clubs were lining up to try and sign JRS in the summer. The same can't be said for Brooks. Ask yourself, why is that?
This is not a criticism of Brooks, I think he's a good young player and has a goo future in the game ahead of him. I just don;'t expect him to reach that top, top level.
There is a strange mindset among our fanbase than any player who graduates from our academy into our first team must be destined for greatness.

 

[Tarqs]

It's almost as if some are trying to convince themselves that Brooks isn't very good.

 

[Tarqs]

I don't. It's called an O.P.I.N.I.O.N.
Clubs were lining up to try and sign JRS in the summer. The same can't be said for Brooks. Ask yourself, why is that?
This is not a criticism of Brooks, I think he's a good young player and has a goo future in the game ahead of him. I just don;'t expect him to reach that top, top level.
There is a strange mindset among our fanbase than any player who graduates from our academy into our first team must be destined for greatness.

To be fair, the majority that graduate and become a regular generally go up the ladder.

 

[Frank the tank]

I don't. It's called an O.P.I.N.I.O.N.
Clubs were lining up to try and sign JRS in the summer. The same can't be said for Brooks. Ask yourself, why is that?
This is not a criticism of Brooks, I think he's a good young player and has a goo future in the game ahead of him. I just don;'t expect him to reach that top, top level.
There is a strange mindset among our fanbase than any player who graduates from our academy into our first team must be destined for greatness.

It's not really an opinion it's a prediction
I would say you're the one with the strange mindset

Firstly you confidently predict in no uncertain terms that one will be good and the other won't based on nothing other than a loathing of the club you profess to support and then come out with weird comments about academy graduates being destined for greatness.

You just come across as a bit of a bore who doesn't know his arse from his elbow

 

[BalticBlade]

It's not really an opinion it's a prediction
I would say you're the one with the strange mindset

Firstly you confidently predict in no uncertain terms that one will be good and the other won't based on nothing other than a loathing of the club you profess to support and then come out with weird comments about academy graduates being destined for greatness.

You just come across as a bit of a bore who doesn't know his arse from his elbow

I didn't say Brooks wouldn't be good. If he spends most of his career in the Championship, then that's the mark of a good player.
You really are a ver strange fellow.

 

[Frank the tank]

I didn't say Brooks wouldn't be good. If he spends most of his career in the Championship, then that's the mark of a good player.
You really are a ver strange fellow.

Just own it
You made a bitter twisted unfounded prediction you can't back up so just own it
Take responsibility for your trolling

 

[NotFallowfieldBlade]

I don't really rate Brooks yet, I think he has lots of ability but doesn't know what to do with it

Numerous times so far this year he gets the ball in good positions and doesn't know what to do with it he isn't direct enough and most of the time he dribbles into blind alleys and once every few times dribbles into the man and gets around him somehow instead of beating him or cutting in and shooting

Brooks needs to learn how to cut in and shoot and have better decision-making IMO

Rak-Saki is miles better than Brooks right now

 

[Blade45]

Call me old fashioned if you like.....(pauses to give opportunity to call me old fashioned)....but there's nothing better than seeing 2 talented wingers going full tilt at a defence.

I agree. I have dreams of Rak-Sakyi and Brooks terrorising Wednesday's full backs like United greats before them.

Perhaps we could woo him by taking him out for a picnic in one of the parks. Everyone loves a picnic!

Yeah, perhaps Rak-Sakyi just likes green space.

Someone should bring him to the Crucible. I nominate Brooks!

 

[SwissBlade]

Was listening to a Watford podcast this morning, and the 2 hosts were saying that Rak-Sakyi was the best player they had come up against so far all season.

So just for fun, I thought I would do a comparison on Brooks vs Rak-Sakyi per 90 just to see how it looked;

It does look like Rak-Sakyi is the busier player with more shots, more dribbles, more passes and more touches in the opposition box per 90.

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I appreciate that the game loves stats nowadays and I know they’re very useful in the early stages of scouting/ recruiting.

There’s uses as well when you build up a good data sample for analysis.

But there is nothing better than watching a player, much of a players impact can’t be measured and is very subjective to try, given the opposition, conditions and many other factors change.

Watching both they have different attributes which will be useful for different games. It’s not always one or the other but horses for courses.

 

[jono_t2000]

I appreciate that the game loves stats nowadays and I know they’re very useful in the early stages of scouting/ recruiting.

There’s uses as well when you build up a good data sample for analysis.

But there is nothing better than watching a player, much of a players impact can’t be measured and is very subjective to try, given the opposition, conditions and many other factors change.

Watching both they have different attributes which will be useful for different games. It’s not always one or the other but horses for courses.

I'd agree with that

 

[Frank the tank]

I don't k ow how anyone could watch Brooks performance Norwich and not be Impressed

He was going round 2-3 men at a time early every time he got the ball

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

First of all , I’m more than happy that these two players are representing our club at the present time , since both are clearly talented and at an age where under normal circumstances can only get better .

With regard to Rak-Sakyi , he has made a very promising start and like other notable loanees before him such as MGW and McAtee in his first season I can well see him continuing to improve and benefit from his stay with us , much to the advantage of ourselves , the player himself and his parent club .

If nothing else , both these players have shown the advantages and excitement created by having players who have
natural ability in the role of a genuine winger rather than that of being a mediocre full back being called upon to masquerade as such , which we have seen all too often in recent years .

 

[jono_t2000]

First of all , I’m more than happy that these two players are representing our club at the present time , since both are clearly talented and at an age where under normal circumstances can only get better .

With regard to Rak-Sakyi , he has made a very promising start and like other notable loanees before him such as MGW and McAtee in his first season I can well see him continuing to improve and benefit from his stay with us , much to the advantage of ourselves , the player himself and his parent club .

If nothing else , both these players have shown the advantages and excitement created by having players who have
natural ability in the role of a genuine winger rather than that of being a mediocre full back being called upon to masquerade as such , which we have seen all too often in recent years .

Well written and fair post

 

[SGBlade]

I appreciate that the game loves stats nowadays and I know they’re very useful in the early stages of scouting/ recruiting.

There’s uses as well when you build up a good data sample for analysis.

But there is nothing better than watching a player, much of a players impact can’t be measured and is very subjective to try, given the opposition, conditions and many other factors change.

Watching both they have different attributes which will be useful for different games. It’s not always one or the other but horses for courses.

Agree with that.

Interesting bit of fun to make some predications during the international break though.

I’m not the best judge of young players (seems I am literally the only blade to not see Kyle Walker was going to be a star). But in the 60 mins I saw of JRS v Watford, seems obvious to me he has an x-factor which means he will spend his career around the top division. It’s not just the skill, it’s more the mindset of ‘I’m going to beat you 1-1 and there fuck all you can do about it’. There are another 100 things he needs to work on which could make the difference between him being, say, a squad player for Brighton vs a starter for Tottenham. But his raw talent an aggression is rare.

Brooks is different for me. He’s been really impressive this year and has shown parts of his game I didn’t know he had (ability to go round a player being the main one). He’s got solid technique and a smart football brain - positing is excellent with and without the ball, for example. But I’d say he doesn’t have some of those raw ingredients. Not saying he can’t carve out a Prem career al la Matt Lowton or Kyle Naughton. But if I had to guess I’d say his level would be in and around the champ. No slight on him, that’s still a wonderful career and, tbh, I am no judge so if he was ever to read this I’d hope he would tell me to fuck off.

Both should be excellent players for us this year and I’m glad we have them. If we can get 20 good games out of each of them and helps them develop at the same time, that would be a fantastic return

 

[jono_t2000]

Nice video by SUW lads.

Pretty much agree with the overall analysis.

Thanks YorkBlade , Oli and Nick

 

[BigBed]

Sorry, but Brooks is a much better player.
Brooks should start next game, there's no doubts.

 

[brownblade]

Sorry, but Brooks is a much better player.
Brooks should start next game, there's no doubts.

Very bold opinion, I think.

I'd rate Brooks higher yesterday, but wingers performances will always fluctuate, unless they're the elitest of the elite.

I'm not fussed about who's best, I just think we've got two very good inverted right wingers, with slightly different traits, but both lovely options for this league.

 

[AWetFlannel]

I'd also start Brooks, he's deserved it so far. Wilder is giving JRS a run of games to get going, I wonder how many he has left before he drops to the bench.

 

[BigBed]

I'd also start Brooks, he's deserved it so far. Wilder is giving JRS a run of games to get going, I wonder how many he has left before he drops to the bench.

Same can also be said for Moore, a strikers job is to get goals.....Moore obviously didn't read the job description.
He does some good things in the team, but we really need him to start scoring.

 

[Frank the tank]

Same can also be said for Moore, a strikers job is to get goals.....Moore obviously didn't read the job description.
He does some good things in the team, but we really need him to start scoring.

Strikers don't have job descriptions
In fact they are only called strikers if they play for MelChester rovers

You are perhaps a bit behind the times and don't understand modern football or the nuances and details of it and the roles ad confines of it

 

[AWetFlannel]

Same can also be said for Moore, a strikers job is to get goals.....Moore obviously didn't read the job description.
He does some good things in the team, but we really need him to start scoring.

Who is Moore competing with though? If we had a striker on the bench who'd already looked shit hot for us this season then I'd agree.

 

[Carlton Blade]

Whatever potential both players have, Brooks is currently a better footballer