if he does go? who do we get?

[yorkshirecoast]

Where is this good football that some think we should give Weir more time to develop? We don't play good football. We play slow, negative, boring football. We never run with the ball. We never get forward in numbers. We pull everyone back for corners even when we are losing. We never look like scoring. We can't keep clean sheets. "Never say die" isn't a description that can be levelled at us these days. We are the easiest team to play against in League 1 at the moment - teams know they only have to score once and it's game over.

The suggestion that the only alternative is the Wimbledon style of the 80s is daft. The fact is we played better football under Wilson (1st season), Kendall and Warnock (at times) than we've seen under Weir so the suggestion that this is some kind of long overdue revolution is bonkers. I want positive football, pace, power, determination and a pride in the shirt. We've seen none of these under Weir.

 

[JohnDenver]

the suggestion that this is some kind of long overdue revolution is bonkers. I want positive football, pace, power, determination and a pride in the shirt. We've seen none of these under Weir.

Managers are only part of the picture. I don't mind Weir getting the boot so long as the next manager has similar aspirations and player preferences. What Weir is doing now might be failing horribly, but there's no reason to think another man can't succeed. None whatsoever.

For United, a revolution is learning to distinguish between babies and bathwater.

 

[Darren]

With one or two notable exceptions, this confirms everything I know about the stupidity of Sheffield United fans:

Bring Warnock back: Warnock has managed 13 clubs, At 12 of them, nobody wants him back. They have colour television and look beyond their backyard wall.

Direct football is equivalent to winning football. History is conclusive to the contrary. Wimbledon are extinct, Watford play properly. Charles Hughes, John Beck and Dinosaur Dave are unemployable.

Our club has rightly decided to shake off this shameful anti-football nonsense. DW is having to build a football team from the ground up, severely hampered by the legacy of numpties like Blackwell and Adams. It's a long term job. If he's not the right man, it doesn't mean we should abandon the right principles. Do you really think our new co-chairman is going to lead a charge back to kick and rush? Or is it just wishful thinking? Nostalgia for the comforting and familiar thud as boot propels ball 70 yards in the stratosphere, low-flying birds scatter and a bunch of Montgomeries tirelessly chase their own tails?

The biggest impediment this club has, I'm afraid, is crystal clear. By far the most unimaginative, unsophisticated, parochial, prehistoric bunch of 'supporters' in the land.

In an odd way, I hope you get your Hoof back. You enjoy it in your little S2 bubble.

It's the Bladesfans' Way. Shame on you.

I don't think for one minute that you really believe this bollocks. It's your own little private joke. It isn't funny anymore.

 

[alcoblade]

For United, a revolution is learning to distinguish between babies and bathwater.

Bang on. There wasn't a need for a revolution before. There isn't now. A dose of common sense (and a change in manager unfortunately) would go a long way.

UTB

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Bring Warnock back: Warnock has managed 13 clubs, At 12 of them, nobody wants him back. They have colour television and look beyond their backyard wall.[/I.

Plenty of those that wouldn't have him back at other clubs would certainly agree though that he was the right person a the right time for them - QPR fans in particular. He specialises in coming to clubs in crisis and leaving them in a much better position. That's not me calling for his return, but to suggest that he's been universally unpopular everywhere else isn't quite right. And we, sadly, are in a bit of a crisis. Weir clearly has good intentions, but something is clearly not right at the minute. For me he has a month to get this sorted and show us that he's a competent manager.

I notice that the man he beat to the job masterminded a win over Coventry last week and officially took temporary control of the team for a win at Tranmere yesterday. Rob Page has in two games surpassed Weir's points total.

 

[puppet]

My god, you're condescending Pinchy. Everybody else is wrong, and you are right. And if they have a different opinion to you, you'll just call them Neanderthals. Does this stem from your profession by any chance?

He is actually pretty spot on though

 

[axel smeets]

He is actually pretty spot on though

But it is the arrogant dismissal of people by saying 'the biggest impediment this club has is crystal clear. By far the most unimaginative, unsophisticated, parochial, prehistoric bunch of supporters in the land.'

Why lump everybody in the same boat? I spent £115 in total going to Wolves yesterday. Am I an impediment to the football club? If the 16000 that are turning up every week stop coming, the club dies. They too are clearly an impediment to the long term future of SUFC.

 

[puppet]

But it is the arrogant dismissal of people by saying 'the biggest impediment this club has is crystal clear. By far the most unimaginative, unsophisticated, parochial, prehistoric bunch of supporters in the land.'

Why lump everybody in the same boat? I spent £115 in total going to Wolves yesterday. Am I an impediment to the football club? If the 16000 that are turning up every week stop coming, the club dies. They too are clearly an impediment to the long term future of SUFC.

I think the comment was aimed at the Warnock wanters.

 

[axel smeets]

I think the comment was aimed at the Warnock wanters.

If it was it was well disguised!

 

[shorehamview]

If it was it was well disguised!

It couldn't be better disguised if it had a glasses, nose and moustache combo.

 

[Silent Blade]

I think the comment was aimed at the Warnock wanters.

I am not one of them!!!

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

I think the comment was aimed at the Warnock wanters.

It was a patronising comment - if you don't want tippy-tappy football you are (apparently) some long-ball loving dinosaur. Surely people want to watch something entertaining - can anyone honestly say they are being entertained? As for Weir, surely the job of the manager is to get the best out the group of players at his disposal? This is a job he is failing miserably at. He can't use the excuse that he hasn't been allowed to bring in players either. I hope he can turn it round, if not the club will be effectively relegated by Christmas. McCabe won't sack him - he has shown before he doesn't know when to stick or twist.

 

[bladesadviser]

I don't want Blackwell or Warnock back but I don't want Weir to stay either and a few goals and a win would be nice

But those three managers are not the only managers in the world so why Pinchy do you label anyone who doesn't agree with keeping Weir a "dinosaur" There must be experienced managers who would play an exciting way and the good football you crave that aren't the the three named above

 

[KenMcnaughtsNuts]

By the way I think Weir should be given at least another game, but he'll probably have to win that one, and it may also have to be the start of a good run, for him to keep his job.

Solskjær has admitted he's always loved playing manager games, and taking over a crap third division side with a strong fan base and decent money to spend could, perhaps, be tempting! He's currently negotiating a new contract with Molde, but he's already achieved a lot with them and I'm pretty certain he'll have a get out clause.

fuerstenberger, any good, german managers you think would be interested in the job?

I love playing manager games too. I've just won the Champions League and Premier League with Sheff Utd on FM2013. Only took me about 8 seasons from League One an all. Not in the same season, finished 2nd in the league and won the Champions League, then the year after won the EPL. Won the league cup 2 years in a row, plus the FA Cup and Super Cup last season along with the EPL. No reload ever, that's just so wrong on every level. If i wanted to cheat, i'd have just picked Man U. Just putting that out there in case HRH is out there reading this!

On the downside, i'm not really a people person. And i'm lazy as feck. I'd make a lousy manager.

 

[bladesadviser]

I love playing manager games too. I've just won the Champions League and Premier League with Sheff Utd on FM2013. Only took me about 8 seasons from League One an all. Not in the same season, finished 2nd in the league and won the Champions League, then the year after won the EPL. Won the league cup 2 years in a row, plus the FA Cup and Super Cup last season along with the EPL. No reload ever, that's just so wrong on every level. If i wanted to cheat, i'd have just picked Man U. Just putting that out there in case HRH is out there reading this!

On the downside, i'm not really a people person. And i'm lazy as feck. I'd make a lousy manager.

But not as bad as the one we currently have!!

 

[KenMcnaughtsNuts]

But not as bad as the one we currently have!!

You may very well think that, i couldn't possibly comment!

 

[Pammyliz]

Im a big fan of warnock iv gotta say, however will he be back at the lane, personnally no! GET WILSON BACK PLEASE. HE HAD THE BEST WIN % AS A BLADES BOSS! Im sorry but anyone can surely do better than weir! He cudnt av cocked it up better if he tried

Agreed has to be the most moronic stupidist decision in football to sack Danny Wilson when they did!!! N we would be in the top 6 with the current squad. Come on McCabe. Eat humble pie n pick that phone up. I think managers should have a fair chance but weir needs to go. He d have been better being an assistant mgr somewhere first

 

[KenMcnaughtsNuts]

This is what you call a CV:

2012/13 League 1 1st W 26 D 10 L 10 F 70 A 46 Pts 88 FA Cup: R3 FL Cup: R1
2013/14 Champs. 2nd W 25 D 9 L 12 F 76 A 50 Pts 84 FA Cup: R6 FL Cup: R2
2014/15 Premier 20th W 5 D 7 L 26 F 38 A 85 Pts 22 FA Cup: R4 FL Cup: R3
2015/16 Champs. 1st W 28 D 11 L 7 F 97 A 48 Pts 95 FA Cup: R5 FL Cup: R3
2016/17 Premier 7th W 18 D 10 L 10 F 62 A 49 Pts 64 FA Cup: R3 FL Cup: R3
2017/18 Premier 6th W 14 D 13 L 11 F 56 A 56 Pts 55 FA Cup: R5 FL Cup: QF
2018/19 Premier 3rd W 24 D 8 L 6 F 74 A 40 Pts 80 FA Cup: R3 FL Cup: Winners
2019/20 Premier 2nd W 23 D 9 L 6 F 85 A 39 Pts 78 FA Cup: SF FL Cup: Winners
2020/21 Premier 1st W 30 D 3 L 5 F 98 A 31 Pts 93 FA Cup: Winners FL Cup: QF

Euro Cup (Europa League) 2018 Lost in the final to Ajax
Champions League 2019 Winners beat Barcelona in the final
Champions League 2020 Lost to Chelsea in Semi Final
Euro Super Cup 2020 Winners beat Tottenham
Club World Championship 2020 Winners beat Atletico Mineiro

But will i get a call? Will i buggery! What's worse is, if i was Neil Warnock i'd have got the sack in 2015 for that horrific first premier season when we got our bums spanked every week!

 

[Bladesman]

A chocolate teapot might do a better job at the moment or one of the ladies who make the tea.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

This is what you call a CV:

2012/13 League 1 1st W 26 D 10 L 10 F 70 A 46 Pts 88 FA Cup: R3 FL Cup: R1
2013/14 Champs. 2nd W 25 D 9 L 12 F 76 A 50 Pts 84 FA Cup: R6 FL Cup: R2
2014/15 Premier 20th W 5 D 7 L 26 F 38 A 85 Pts 22 FA Cup: R4 FL Cup: R3
2015/16 Champs. 1st W 28 D 11 L 7 F 97 A 48 Pts 95 FA Cup: R5 FL Cup: R3
2016/17 Premier 7th W 18 D 10 L 10 F 62 A 49 Pts 64 FA Cup: R3 FL Cup: R3
2017/18 Premier 6th W 14 D 13 L 11 F 56 A 56 Pts 55 FA Cup: R5 FL Cup: QF
2018/19 Premier 3rd W 24 D 8 L 6 F 74 A 40 Pts 80 FA Cup: R3 FL Cup: Winners
2019/20 Premier 2nd W 23 D 9 L 6 F 85 A 39 Pts 78 FA Cup: SF FL Cup: Winners
2020/21 Premier 1st W 30 D 3 L 5 F 98 A 31 Pts 93 FA Cup: Winners FL Cup: QF

Euro Cup (Europa League) 2018 Lost in the final to Ajax
Champions League 2019 Winners beat Barcelona in the final
Champions League 2020 Lost to Chelsea in Semi Final
Euro Super Cup 2020 Winners beat Tottenham
Club World Championship 2020 Winners beat Atletico Mineiro

But will i get a call? Will i buggery! What's worse is, if i was Neil Warnock i'd have got the sack in 2015 for that horrific first premier season when we got our bums spanked every week!

Think I'd die happy after that lot

 

[Darren]

Given that it is not actually possible to do worse than Weir at the moment*. My choice is Anyone Who Is Not Weir.

* ok, I suppose we could be bottom with fewer than 4 points, but a trained chimp (or even an untrained chimp) trying deliberately to lose every game would be hard put to manage SUFC to that kind of outcome.

 

[alcoblade]

Given that it is not actually possible to do worse than Weir at the moment*. My choice is Anyone Who Is Not Weir.

* ok, I suppose we could be bottom with fewer than 4 points, but a trained chimp (or even an untrained chimp) trying deliberately to lose every game would be hard put to manage SUFC to that kind of outcome.

Tis true, I think we could have just told the players to "do their best", left them managerless and I honesty think we'd have done better.

It doesn't really help with the next choice though. It's no time for a return to Warnock or the like. Even if you want that style, we don't have the players to play it. We should have gone for Gary Johnson at the end of last season. The best realistic candidate should be someone who's beneath the radar, yet always seems to have teams punching above their weight. No doubt most would balk at someone like Steve Evans at Rotherham, but we could do far worse.

UTB

 

[lawlessdan]

I have said to a few people, get Warnock back on a contact till the end of NEXT season, stabilize us this year (even possibly a late playoff push) and bring in Rob Page to assist Warnock and eventually take over with a similar ethos and mentality to maintain continuity.

 

[alcoblade]

I have said to a few people, get Warnock back on a contact till the end of NEXT season, stabilize us this year (even possibly a late playoff push) and bring in Rob Page to assist Warnock and eventually take over with a similar ethos and mentality to maintain continuity.

What do we know about Rob Page? Sounds alarmingly like a poor man's Weir, but I might be missing something?

UTB

 

[sheffielder]

What do we know about Rob Page? Sounds alarmingly like a poor man's Weir, but I might be missing something?

UTB

The Hodges and Page combination sounds better to me than Weir and Carsley

 

[Pinchy]

I have said to a few people, get Warnock back on a contact till the end of NEXT season, stabilize us this year (even possibly a late playoff push) and bring in Rob Page to assist Warnock and eventually take over with a similar ethos and mentality to maintain continuity.

You are not aware then, that the ethos in question is not one to which the club aspire? They have, unlike your good self, looked outside s2 and discovered life beyond mediocrity.

The fact that you have imparted archaic views to a few people is nothing to the point, I'm afraid.

Let's just get this perfectly clear. Warnock is not coming back. Not now; not never. Neither McCabe nor his co-chairman would touch Ol' Big Nose with a barge pole. It is not going to happen. Can we discuss something sensible, please?

 

[oldblade]

You are not aware then, that the ethos in question is not one to which the club aspire? They have, unlike your good self, looked outside s2 and discovered life beyond mediocrity.

Don't we know it. At the moment, from where I'm standing, mediocrity looks quite palatable, but unfortunately something that is so far above where we are that it is beyond our capabilities.

I know. Hoof lover, blah, blah, blah etc

 

[puppet]

Tis true, I think we could have just told the players to "do their best", left them managerless and I honesty think we'd have done better.

It doesn't really help with the next choice though. It's no time for a return to Warnock or the like. Even if you want that style, we don't have the players to play it. We should have gone for Gary Johnson at the end of last season. The best realistic candidate should be someone who's beneath the radar, yet always seems to have teams punching above their weight. No doubt most would balk at someone like Steve Evans at Rotherham, but we could do far worse.

UTB

Evans has already outsmarted us this season, seen his team (amazingly) outclassed in the first half, changes his tactics when he sees his game plan isnt working an we get hammered. Everything we've been asking of Weir.

 

[Darren]

You are not aware then, that the ethos in question is not one to which the club aspire? They have, unlike your good self, looked outside s2 and discovered life beyond mediocrity.

The fact that you have imparted archaic views to a few people is nothing to the point, I'm afraid.

Let's just get this perfectly clear. Warnock is not coming back. Not now; not never. Neither McCabe nor his co-chairman would touch Ol' Big Nose with a barge pole. It is not going to happen. Can we discuss something sensible, please?

As I say, I don;t think you are even a mite serious, but, if you are, you are turning into a parody of yourself.

You're right about one think though. We have discovered a life beyond mediocrity, though I would suggest the words "far worse than" might be more appropriate than the "beyond".

 

[lawlessdan]

You are not aware then, that the ethos in question is not one to which the club aspire? They have, unlike your good self, looked outside s2 and discovered life beyond mediocrity.

The fact that you have imparted archaic views to a few people is nothing to the point, I'm afraid.

Let's just get this perfectly clear. Warnock is not coming back. Not now; not never. Neither McCabe nor his co-chairman would touch Ol' Big Nose with a barge pole. It is not going to happen. Can we discuss something sensible, please?

This is a club in crisis. There is no question about that. I don't want a man like David Weir who at the moment will not hold his hands up and say that he got it wrong. I am sick of watching my side every game play with no desire and no passion. A team (that as already been pointed out) bring everybody back for a last minute corner when we were losing one nil. A manager that refuses to change his tactics. A manager that tells blatant lies (say the 25 chances to score interview after Preston). Take the Preston game again for example. Losing in the dying minutes, not a single player looked like they wanted to go and push on and find a late goal. This has happened far to often to be a one off. Either he has lost the dressing room and the players don't believe in him or he has told them to play like this. Either way you look at it, are you telling me for one minute Warnock would let his team play like that or get away with it if they did. I am not saying he is the long term answer but at the moment he in my eyes is our only realistic way out of this mess.