CONFIRMED Will Osula sold to Newcastle United

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bertieblade said:
No one knows the terms of the contract each one of which is individual dependent upon circumstances, for all we know they have paid all up front and we have negotiated stage payments for our purchases which helps our cash flow.
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Newcastle paid upfront for Gordon at 40 million which was seen as noteworthy as most transfers don't work like that
 

Will they buy and then loan him back to us to play championship this season... cause he certainly aint ready for the premier.
 
Like others have said - I don't mind this as long as it goes to signing players who are going to benefit us for a few years to come, and not to cover wages/signing on fees for free transfers over 30 and loans.

If it was less than the reported £10 million + £5 million add ons, I'd have thought we'd be selling too cheap, but I don't think we can really be in a position to turn it down. I was more disappointed with the Jebbison sale, at least we have got a decent sum for Osula but ultimately it's sad that the strike force that was tearing up the under 23's has now gone and could've been our strike force for the next 5 years.
 
If, big if I appreciate, Brewster is over his injury problems he could well be in front of Osula in the pecking order this season, I find it hard to have an opinion on Osula regarding how good he is and can be, if the money we are hearing is correct I would find it hard to turn down, time will tell on how good he is going to be, fingers crossed on Brewster this season staying injury free and turning out, 🤔 hopefully, to be a regular.
 
Wards said:
I don't think BBD and Osula are comparable right now. Osula's ceiling is way higher than BBD and as much as I liked BBD he'll likely never be more than bottom half PL standard.

Newcastle are paying for potential and not a lot else right now. I genuinely feel he has everything to be a top end PL player in 3 or 4 years time.
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I understand what you’re saying, I think it’s a case of BBD being sold for a lot cheaper than I expected (maybe £15m-£20m).

With Osula, I think it’s a decent fee for what we’ve seen of him so far. But it could end up looking like a bargain in 2 or 3 years. But on the flip side it could end up as a waste of money, time will tell.
 
Geordie back in peace.

Pretty zen about this transfer to be honest. £10m (+ add ons) for a young striker isn't going to dramatically impact what we can spend this window and it provides some much needed depth up front. We only had perma-crock Wilson as back up to Isak and ended up having to play Gordon up front in some fixtures.

Osula provides a young backup striker with potential to grow, and depending on the length of his contract, it'll only be £2-3m a year of our PSR wriggle room. Leaving plenty to address our bigger problems.
 
Champagneblade said:
True but I suppose you can only get what is offered.

At the moment if this gets Cooper over the line and perhaps the rest of the team completed then that just seems more sure fire than hoping Osula has a breakthrough season.

Nice to have both but I think we know where we are at the moment so this is the reality isn’t it?
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The big question is ‘if’
 
The Fish said:
Geordie back in peace.

Pretty zen about this transfer to be honest. £10m (+ add ons) for a young striker isn't going to dramatically impact what we can spend this window and it provides some much needed depth up front. We only had perma-crock Wilson as back up to Isak and ended up having to play Gordon up front in some fixtures.

Osula provides a young backup striker with potential to grow, and depending on the length of his contract, it'll only be £2-3m a year of our PSR wriggle room. Leaving plenty to address our bigger problems.
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Imagine being in a position where £15m doesn't dramatically affect what you spend in a window and you have plenty to address your bigger problems (like what you're gonna piss the rest of your money on) 😉
Not having a go The Fish (not called Keith are you🤔?) just ripping into the difference in financial situations between 2 clubs that were in the same league last season
 
When it comes down to it, we're being offered £10m for a lad albeit who is still young and is nowhere near his peak, but hasn't scored a league goal for us.

It's not like he's a Rooney/Owen/Bellingham/Haaland child prodigy - he played 18 games for Derby in League One for 2 goals. He looked great against Gillingham in the cup but then so would most half decent Premier League/Championship youngsters.

He'll have a good career in the game if he works hard but in the position we're in, we need the cash, we need proven players and we need them now. Calvert Lewin has had a solid career at Everton so far but its not as if he's the next cab off the rank when Harry Kane packs it in.

A loan back would be a decent option though if we're struggling to get anyone else through the door but no tears shed from me, based on what I've seen of him.
 
jt64 said:
I wouldn't even be entertaining any offers unless they are substantially higher than what is reported. He has three years left on his deal and is coming into a year where there is a significant chance that he has a good enough season for his value to solidly increase.
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You may not entertain it but the Prince cannot fund any team rebuilding without sales - also , the alleged takeover 😂 drama hasn’t helped - or perhaps it has depending on what is really not happening and may never have been
 
I'll be sorry to see him go. We all see things differently, and for me, it was always "if we need to sell one of Jebbo or Osula, sell Jebbo", because Osula (to me) has more in his locker and more potential.

Anyone who was at Stoke, away, when he came on for the last 10 minutes, could see how he can shake things up at Championship level. Within minutes, the Stoke defenders were shitting bricks every time he got the ball and ran at them, shouldering them off the ball like rag dolls.

I genuinely think this could have been his break out season, and then (if needed) a big sale next summer.

With Lankshear, Jebbison and now, Osula, leaving our ranks, I think that is the last of our youth set up strikers who scored for fun, on their progression in football.
 

The Fish said:
Geordie back in peace.

Pretty zen about this transfer to be honest. £10m (+ add ons) for a young striker isn't going to dramatically impact what we can spend this window and it provides some much needed depth up front. We only had perma-crock Wilson as back up to Isak and ended up having to play Gordon up front in some fixtures.

Osula provides a young backup striker with potential to grow, and depending on the length of his contract, it'll only be £2-3m a year of our PSR wriggle room. Leaving plenty to address our bigger problems.
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Made up for ya
 
The Fish said:
Geordie back in peace.

Pretty zen about this transfer to be honest. £10m (+ add ons) for a young striker isn't going to dramatically impact what we can spend this window and it provides some much needed depth up front. We only had perma-crock Wilson as back up to Isak and ended up having to play Gordon up front in some fixtures.

Osula provides a young backup striker with potential to grow, and depending on the length of his contract, it'll only be £2-3m a year of our PSR wriggle room. Leaving plenty to address our bigger problems.
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That's nice.
What's your thoughts on the Pedestrianisation of Norwich City Centre ?
 
I like osula , good attitude and a big quick strong lad ,all the attributes as some have said.
I remember watching us play Chesterfield a few years ago , must have been a cup match . Chezzie had a couple of lads up top , bit like osula , strong quick and absolutely looked the part . ( I've no idea of thier names ) . I think they played thier careers at that level , good players and a right handful but league 1 was their level .
Couldn't help thinking there are alot more players like that , who look like worldbeaters but end up lower league than those who become superstars .
I hope osula does become a superstar striker , if not he'll make a good living at a level he finds . It's a £10/15m gamble we can't afford sadly .
 
Bell4 said:
You may not entertain it but the Prince cannot fund any team rebuilding without sales
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Then we go without team rebuilding. If you're skint, selling your assets for less than what they are worth is an excellent way to remain skint.
 
Blade45 said:
If the initial fee is 10 million, we won't actually get that much of it up front. Most transfer deals are done via amortization, so we'll probably only get 1/7th or 1/8th of the 10 million fee. Maybe even less. We couldn't really invest 3-4 million in a keeper, and 6 million on 2 new defenders because we wouldn't have the money to do so.

I suppose we could also use amortization to fund our transfers, but depending on payment structures, that may not be completely viable. Many lower end Prem clubs and EFL clubs often sharply defer their payments. They may spend 15 million on a player, pay 2.5 million over the first five years and then 12.5 million over the final 2-4 years. That's not financially viable, and I wouldn't want us to do that.
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You answered your question with the the second part
 
jt64 said:
Then we go without team rebuilding. If you're skint, selling your assets for less than what they are worth is an excellent way to remain skint.
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Players have a different values , some valuable in what they offer to the club , some in monetary terms . They sit on the balance sheet as an asset with a value alongside thier name . Osula's asset value in those terms will be very low , the sale may represent 10 times his actual value in the books.
Not disputing his value as a player , what he could bring to the team etc but in financial terms were probably selling him for a far greater sum than his asset value not far less. .
 
Bookers Mullet said:
How the fuck can we not be? Most of the bog earners off the wage bill (which wasn't big for the premier league), some transfer fees in,.plus parachute payments. If we are losing money after all that something is seriously wrong at the club
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Pretty much every football club is loss making
 
I think the point of issue with this is that we are already low on numbers in the squad, without selling someone else. I think it irks people because of this and that it's someone we would be happy to keep (unlike say, Souza or Grbic).
 
Lovely lad. Hopefully he can push on, he has all the attributes. 10-15 is a fair deal for me personally.

We’re always going to be in this predicament where we are. They won’t say it. But academies in the EFL are to make profit for the club. Its high profit and done right is a sustainable way of income.

Shit I know. But it’s where we’re at!
 
S64 Blade said:
I think the point of issue with this is that we are already low on numbers in the squad, without selling someone else. I think it irks people because of this and that it's someone we would be happy to keep (unlike say, Souza or Grbic).
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Unfortunately it’s generally easier to sell the players you want to keep and harder to get rid of the ones you want gone.

We’ve just got to hope that by selling Osula it allows us to bring in 2 or 3 new players.
 

What's happened to Hackford? Not noticed him pre-season - guessing he is injured again? Seems like the injuries have really blocked his progression and will probably prevent him from having a good career in the game.
 
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