CONFIRMED Cameron Archer signs for the Blades - 4 year contract

[Blade56]

Our joint top scorer last season. I doubt many promoted sides sack off both top scorers

We are talking SUFC

 

[Bell4]

An understudy, I thought he was the understudy to a first choice we dont yet posses

We’re fkd

 

[Mattblade68]

I was hoping it might be that Hamulic guy, he looked interesting



Great suggestion. And we could pretend we value Biscuitson at 7m or something

Offer 15m and another 10m for villa if we stay up..

 

[LONDON_BLADE]

Belgian lad...

They all sound the same to me!

 

[Blade56]

We’re fkd

Well that’s going in the bucket of “stating the bloody obvious” nominations

 

[Lmaobob]

I’m really jealous of clubs that sell their academy players for £10m+ , especially when they’re nowhere near getting first team minutes. This is why we will NEVER be able to compete.

I would absolutely love Archer but it shows you the gulf in difference between an established prem team and a newly promoted team. We are desperate for one of their strikers apparently worth £20m but Villa don’t think he’s good enough for first team minutes yet value him at £20m!!

Trafford - £15m
Doyle - £10-15m?
Archer - ‘£20m’
Sancho - £8m (to Dortmund)
Shea Charles - £12.25m
Lavia - £10-15m

 

[Blade56]

They all sound the same to me!

Can we still say that? (them, er, they) like Bell4 sez, we’re fkd

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

This might be a bit of a stink bomb on here but.....

If only us and Luton are in for Archer can he really be as good as we think?

 

[Snowflake]

This might be a bit of a stink bomb on here but.....

If only us and Luton are in for Archer can he really be as good as we think?

Wrong question. Is he better than what we have is surely the question to be asked. Value for money is the next consideration.

 

[Gin&Juice]

Any updates?

 

[GrayBlade]

This might be a bit of a stink bomb on here but.....

If only us and Luton are in for Archer can he really be as good as we think?

It had crossed my mind.

 

[Gin&Juice]

This might be a bit of a stink bomb on here but.....

If only us and Luton are in for Archer can he really be as good as we think?

Think it’s more where us and Luton are with both money to spend and reliance on un-tested players with potential. Other clubs would swoop if he bagged 10 goals in the PL last season and we wouldn’t be able to compete.

 

[Bell4]

This might be a bit of a stink bomb on here but.....

If only us and Luton are in for Archer can he really be as good as we think?

Other clubs have better players in their squads so dont necessarily need him whereas Luton and us are in a totally different place

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

It wont happen for Jebbo here if he's not given the opportunity. Vicious circle.
UTB

And it won’t happen for him unless he signs a new deal, and then steps up his performances either.
Still think he’s a way off personally and a loan for both him and Osula is the optimal. Doubt we’ll have enough bodies though with Brewster and McBurnies proneness for injuries.

 

[Lupa The Noa]

Offer 15m and another 10m for villa if we stay up..

That's sort of the problem. They want a lower figure, a staying up fee [also lower] but a buy back clause as well. The sole owner's massive ego is hurt by that last part [I hesitate to call that person a 'prince']

 

[SLB]

I’m really jealous of clubs that sell their academy players for £10m+ , especially when they’re nowhere near getting first team minutes. This is why we will NEVER be able to compete.

I would absolutely love Archer but it shows you the gulf in difference between an established prem team and a newly promoted team. We are desperate for one of their strikers apparently worth £20m but Villa don’t think he’s good enough for first team minutes yet value him at £20m!!

Trafford - £15m
Doyle - £10-15m?
Archer - ‘£20m’
Sancho - £8m (to Dortmund)
Shea Charles - £12.25m
Lavia - £10-15m

This. It's almost pointless getting promoted from a purely football point of view. We can't afford academy players from our new 'peers' so we shop in the league we've just left, often getting priced out of those players.

So we get relegated.

 

[jono_t2000]

Think it’s more where us and Luton are with both money to spend and reliance on un-tested players with potential. Other clubs would swoop if he bagged 10 goals in the PL last season and we wouldn’t be able to compete.

This ^ most Prem clubs have that fast powerful striker position already sewn up, so why would they sign an unproven at PL level with England tax added on.

 

[jt64]

We are desperate for one of their strikers apparently worth £20m but Villa don’t think he’s good enough for first team minutes yet value him at £20m!!

I have never, ever understood this line of thinking. That Villa happen to have Ollie Watkins, amongst others, is in no way indicating that Archer is "not good enough" and has no bearing on the value they perceive Archer to have. It's no different to how we would expect a decent fee for Jebbison

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

Just seems to me he'd easily be worth a punt at the 15m range for clubs who that is nothing to

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

This might be a bit of a stink bomb on here but.....

If only us and Luton are in for Archer can he really be as good as we think?

Depends if you assume everyone is in the same pool which they aren’t, and if they know better than you.
I’d say if Luton are interested it would I indicate he’s as good as we think and what we both need.
That said, he’s not worth £15m nevermind the rumoured £18m, but then everyone involved I think knows this. Villa are just seeing if someone will panic and shit the bed in desperation.

 

[LondonBlade89]

Just seems to me he'd easily be worth a punt at the 15m range for clubs who that is nothing to

Other clubs have more money than us but they’re not in the business of just chucking £15 million away on someone who won’t play. There’s no logic to this.

 

[HeySethUTB]

I’m really jealous of clubs that sell their academy players for £10m+ , especially when they’re nowhere near getting first team minutes. This is why we will NEVER be able to compete.

I would absolutely love Archer but it shows you the gulf in difference between an established prem team and a newly promoted team. We are desperate for one of their strikers apparently worth £20m but Villa don’t think he’s good enough for first team minutes yet value him at £20m!!

Trafford - £15m
Doyle - £10-15m?
Archer - ‘£20m’
Sancho - £8m (to Dortmund)
Shea Charles - £12.25m
Lavia - £10-15m

Advantage of Cat 1 and investment

 

[YES Blade]

Advantage of Cat 1 and investment

Being Man City, one of the best teams in Europe, also helps to attract the top talent

 

[Tarqs]

Advantage of Cat 1 and investment

Don't think the academy category has anything to do with it.

It's cost by association. Also Man City love to throw a kid into the first team and bring him on as a sub for 5 mins, because that instantly makes him a 20m player.

 

[LONDON_BLADE]

Can we still say that? (them, er, they) like Bell4 sez, we’re fkd

Why not..? Mate, if you can you tell the difference between a French speaking person from France, and one from Belgium... then your a cunning linguist.

 

[GymClassHero]

Would a loan to buy not be the best option for both teams?

We stay up, we have more funds to complete the transfer. We go down, they got him back, he's off our wage bill but has put himself in the shop window for the Summer or potentially even breaks into their first XI

 

[LONDON_BLADE]

Would a loan to buy not be the best option for both teams?

We stay up, we have more funds to complete the transfer. We go down, they got him back, he's off our wage bill but has put himself in the shop window for the Summer or potentially even breaks into their first XI

It would financially mate, but it'd consume one of our Prem to Prem loans, of which we only have 2 I believe.
If I was Hecky, and I could to a reasonable amount - I'd dip into the January/ next season budget to get the guy.
Like you say, if relegated, we'd have a real asset to cover the overspend, if he had to be sold.

Of course, we assume (hope) he wouldn't be a flop!

 

[LondonBlade89]

Right, come on Rocket Man and Rifleman, how are we looking today?

 

[FriethBlade]

I’m really jealous of clubs that sell their academy players for £10m+ , especially when they’re nowhere near getting first team minutes. This is why we will NEVER be able to compete.

I would absolutely love Archer but it shows you the gulf in difference between an established prem team and a newly promoted team. We are desperate for one of their strikers apparently worth £20m but Villa don’t think he’s good enough for first team minutes yet value him at £20m!!

Trafford - £15m
Doyle - £10-15m?
Archer - ‘£20m’
Sancho - £8m (to Dortmund)
Shea Charles - £12.25m
Lavia - £10-15m

True but we need to stop giving our young lads away. Remember Jebbo has more premier league goals than Archer and how much will we sell him for. Look at what we got for DCL, we sold Lankshear for 1.5m to one of the richest clubs in tje world!. Ramsdale went for what ?

At least the Prince seems a bit more savvy than other regimes on the sale front

 

[jono_t2000]

Would a loan to buy not be the best option for both teams?

We stay up, we have more funds to complete the transfer. We go down, they got him back, he's off our wage bill but has put himself in the shop window for the Summer or potentially even breaks into their first XI

It would financially mate, but it'd consume one of our Prem to Prem loans, of which we only have 2 I believe.
If I was Hecky, and I could to a reasonable amount - I'd dip into the January/ next season budget to get the guy.
Like you say, if relegated, we'd have a real asset to cover the overspend, if he had to be sold.

Of course, we assume (hope) he wouldn't be a flop!

Plus if we do go down then he's a year older, with one year less on his contract and may have shown not able to cut it at Prem level

Most selling clubs prefer to just get rid, I think Rocket Man said we had all but abandoned loan to buy tactic as narrows potential player pool down too much for clubs willing to go down that route.