CONFIRMED Cameron Archer signs for the Blades - 4 year contract

[derfblade.3]

Is he better than Jebbo or Osula?
Asking for a friend.

 

[jt64]

I remember a similar clamor for Brewster circa 2021.

Yep. Firmly in the camp of "if it happens, hope he progresses as the fanboys here want, if it doesn't happen, I couldn't give a shit"

 

[Lmaobob]

No matter who we sign, play that midfield again, forget it!!!!!!!!! If we have the cash, just get it done, FFS!!!!

Each exclamation mark you use increases Villa's price of Archer by £5m. You're going to put the deal in jeopardy

 

[Keen Blade]

could we be after a double deal from villa cameron archer and keinan davis

I don't know much about Keenan but it's significant that Archer was successful last season when playing off a big athletic unit called Akpom.
If we get Archer but don't have such a partner for him , it's likely he won't be so effective (and that's in addition to whether he can take the step up to PL).
I agree that there's a chance of more profit in future by signing Archer , but can we afford another Brewster style gamble to go wrong ?
I'm sure this is why Hecky preferred Akpom - the question is : do you want to survive in the PL but make no future profit on an older player .... Or , do you want to risk your PL place by gambling on a younger model ?
I'm very much hoping that we have lined up a couple of other strikers for the first eleven , either both on PL loan/free/foreign loan or one fee & one loan.
There is some logic to us avoiding paying a fee for a striker because we have 3 great prospects in Osula , Jebbo & Traore (for winning the Championship next season). Plus miracles might happen and Brewster comes to life and McBurnie transforms himself.
But our only prospect at LMF is Brooks , so I'd like us to get a LMF on a permanent contract.
I really don't want another RMF coz we already have Hamer , Souza , Coulibaly & Slimane.
You might think I've missed a few out but in my mind , thinking of next summer , I've already waved goodbye to Fleck , Osborn & Norwood , who should be released at the end of their contracts even if we're in the Championship

We move so fucking slowly.

Fucking hurry up united you fannies

Memories of the panicky clamour to sign Brewster for what subsequently transpired to be ridiculous money (even without all the injuries) - money which put such a big hole in our finances that we ended up in a transfer embargo.

 

[raimond]

Is he better than Jebbo or Osula?
Asking for a friend.

Yes.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

I don't know much about Keenan but it's significant that Archer was successful last season when playing off a big athletic unit called Akpom.
If we get Archer but don't have such a partner for him , it's likely he won't be so effective (and that's in addition to whether he can take the step up to PL).
I agree that there's a chance of more profit in future by signing Archer , but can we afford another Brewster style gamble to go wrong ?
I'm sure this is why Hecky preferred Akpom - the question is : do you want to survive in the PL but make no future profit on an older player .... Or , do you want to risk your PL place by gambling on a younger model ?
I'm very much hoping that we have lined up a couple of other strikers for the first eleven , either both on PL loan/free/foreign loan or one fee & one loan.
There is some logic to us avoiding paying a fee for a striker because we have 3 great prospects in Osula , Jebbo & Traore (for winning the Championship next season). Plus miracles might happen and Brewster comes to life and McBurnie transforms himself.
But our only prospect at LMF is Brooks , so I'd like us to get a LMF on a permanent contract.
I really don't want another RMF coz we already have Hamer , Souza , Coulibaly & Slimane.
You might think I've missed a few out but in my mind , thinking of next summer , I've already waved goodbye to Fleck , Osborn & Norwood , who should be released at the end of their contracts even if we're in the Championship

Memories of the panicky clamour to sign Brewster for what subsequently transpired to be ridiculous money (even without all the injuries) - money which put such a big hole in our finances that we ended up in a transfer embargo.

Akpom played deeper with Archer playing further up. If anything, Akpom played off Archer.
The two together were a great combo. We will need someone close to Archer, he won't be able to do it all by himself in the PL.

 

[Bell4]

Brewster and Archer could be very tasty

 

[Keen Blade]

We are working hard on this one today. And we are working hard for it to not include a buyback. Wouldn't be surprised if we make a breakthrough this evening/early tomorrow. Tommy Doyle close too. Both should be buys not loans if we can get the fee right on this one.

Tbh , if a reasonable buyback (giving us a decent profit on success) will reduce the initial fee to something we can afford to risk on a young player (unproven in the Pl , just like Brewster) , then I don't see the problem with it.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Brewster and Archer could be very tasty

Who's Brewster?

 

[Rifleman ITK]

Middlesbrough also in the race.

 

[SUFC Guy]

Middlesbrough also in the race.

Surely not an option for him when a Prem side comes calling?

 

[Boxer Blade]

Brewster and Archer could be very tasty

Sounds like a real ale, I'm in

 

[Rifleman ITK]

Surely not an option for him when a Prem side comes calling?

You’d think not

 

[Keen Blade]

Need better than Doyle and McBurnie if we're going to score enough goals to stay up.

If we get Archer we need to loan a big powerful striker from a PL club to give the Archer some arrows to fire

 

[JayGreen17]

Surely not an option for him when a Prem side comes calling?

And almost guaranteed to play every game.

 

[FriethBlade]

Middlesbrough also in the race.

That should be like saying I'm in a race with Brad Pitt to shag Liz Hurley

 

[JayGreen17]

If we get Archer we need to loan a big powerful striker from a PL club to give the Archer some arrows to fire

Or we could just have bought fucking Akpom…..

 

[Lmaobob]

Brewster and Archer could be very tasty

Brewster has pulled his hamstring by just thinking about this partnership

 

[Keen Blade]

I can't keep up with who's called what correctly as an ITK anymore, though I do remember the high profile Ndiaye error so pretty sceptical (though appreciative) on your info since..
However, if you're right, I'm very curious as to our plan.

Doyle isn't a creative midfielder and has never performed to a high level anywhere other than centrally.
We've also all seen Souza's stats, they're as defensive as you can possibly imagine and he doesn't seem to have progressive passes in his locker.
Hamer, is an all rounder. He has goal contributions in his locker but he certainly isn't what you'd describe as an out and out attacking midfielder.
So what's the balance?
Are we going to play with a double-pivot?

To me, the biggest issue facing this side is goals.
Hamer addresses the gap that Berge's left.
Archer would upgrade the CF area.
But nobody has replaced Ndiaye and McAtee. Tillman or Akpom would have gone some way to resolving that issue, Cole Palmer could still come in (though it looks unlikely now). Where are we going to find our mobile, line-breaking AMs?

If we have money, I really think those resources should be ploughed into that area rather than another deeper midfielder.

We need a Lfooted creative progressive MF of the McAtee ilk.

 

[Keen Blade]

But if we could get Archer and Doyle as permanents then we could use our loans for a LWB and an attacking midfield player

I doubt we have the cash for more than one fee for a signing who will go straight into starting eleven

 

[Keen Blade]

Presumably it would be 12pm Thursday, just like the Friday 12pm deadline for matches on the Saturday.

We aren't going to sign any old chuff available for Friday just coz fans want it and Hecky said he'd like it

 

[Blade58]

Middlesbrough also in the race.

I think Archer has said he wants to play in the PL. Hopefully that counts them out

 

[Keen Blade]

Escalating rapidly slowly. Got it.

These transfer agreements can be long and complicated documents with toing and froing clause by clause

 

[Keen Blade]

Loan, LTB, perm or buy back?

Would you like a copy of the draft agreement with the amendments made so far ?

 

[Keen Blade]

Only key difference is Brewster suffered nasty injury after championship loan and going away with england youth team. I swear to this day Liverpool knew he would never be the same player again.

So as long as Archer doesn't fall down the stairs between now and signing, I think we'll be getting better value

Of course they did - we were mugged big style

 

[gaffablade]

Perm Archer
Perm OBrien
Loan striker
Loan Henderson.

Fab 4

 

[john Mathison]

Each exclamation mark you use increases Villa's price of Archer by £5m. You're going to put the deal in jeopardy

Lol

 

[Blade56]

Middlesbrough also in the race.

Pigs as well

 

[Keen Blade]

You are thinking like me mate and I am looking for a lift to like most Blades fans .Never known a club to get in the prem and have so much gloom around the place . A good left wing back would give me a boost ,it is obvious we are very weak in that area ,we need RND back sooner rather than later or one on loan .

I agree with you but Hecky signing a LWB is Hecky admitting he's fucked up with Larouci so that ain't happening

 

[paidsy]

Pigs as well

They finally given up on Aguero then?