Long throws - did we miss a trick ?

[Reus]

I noticed that our Wrexham friend Mr. Tozer was less effective with his long throws on the John Street side of the pitch than the South stand side. He only seemed to be able to balloon the throw rather than have more of a flat trajectory. The gap between the pitch and the stand is much narrower on the John Street side. Pre-match could we have moved the advertising boards closer to the pitch on the South Stand side and reduce this risk ? BTW - The size of the gap doesn’t seem to affect JLT.

 

[Richeee]

That referee would have vetoed it

 

[jt64]

You do know the natural consequence of being that paranoid is that we'd probably pick up an injury from someone colliding with said advertising hoarding?

 

[JT89]

Why would be want to give our opponents the psychological advantage by making them think we're so worried about their long throws that we've gone to the trouble of reconfiguring our stadium?

 

[Ned the Donkey]

reduce this risk

What fucking risk?

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

What fucking risk?

A full risk assessment needs to be carried out and I want the specific (not generic) RAMS on my desk first thing in the morning. I won't be there and I don't have a desk of course.

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

I noticed that our Wrexham friend Mr. Tozer was less effective with his long throws on the John Street side of the pitch than the South stand side. He only seemed to be able to balloon the throw rather than have more of a flat trajectory. The gap between the pitch and the stand is much narrower on the John Street side. Pre-match could we have moved the advertising boards closer to the pitch on the South Stand side and reduce this risk ? BTW - The size of the gap doesn’t seem to affect JLT.

To be honest they didn't really trouble us, easier for our defenders to deal with than for a striker to do owt with. He's no JLT.

 

[bakeblade]

I noticed that our Wrexham friend Mr. Tozer was less effective with his long throws on the John Street side of the pitch than the South stand side. He only seemed to be able to balloon the throw rather than have more of a flat trajectory. The gap between the pitch and the stand is much narrower on the John Street side. Pre-match could we have moved the advertising boards closer to the pitch on the South Stand side and reduce this risk ? BTW - The size of the gap doesn’t seem to affect JLT.

So are you suggesting as part of our pre game analysis of the opponents, we add the following...
Does the opposition have a long throw expert?
Is said player expected to play?
What style is said long throw expert.
If yes to above, then reconfigure stadium layout to negate this threat
Seems a bit OTT to me.

 

[blade67]

I noticed that our Wrexham friend Mr. Tozer was less effective with his long throws on the John Street side of the pitch than the South stand side. He only seemed to be able to balloon the throw rather than have more of a flat trajectory. The gap between the pitch and the stand is much narrower on the John Street side. Pre-match could we have moved the advertising boards closer to the pitch on the South Stand side and reduce this risk ? BTW - The size of the gap doesn’t seem to affect JLT.

they didn't really cause us any issues did they in the 2nd leg.

We are pretty solid under th hugh ball

 

[Grey Blade]

You do know the natural consequence of being that paranoid is that we'd probably pick up an injury from someone colliding with said advertising hoarding?

In the game at Wrexham one of their players was injured when he crashed into the Emirates hoarding as we scored. I noticed the Emirates hoardings were placed in exactly the same position for the replay. It seemed to be tempting fate to me.

 

[Harry's Game]

My thoughts on long throws are now similar to Arsene Wengers, ban them, spoils the game when you have sides like Wrexham just hoofing the ball into the channel for 90 minutes attempting to win throw ins.. if I wanted to see that I would go and watch Rugby Union.

 

[jt64]

My thoughts on long throws are now similar to Arsene Wengers, ban them, spoils the game when you have sides like Wrexham just hoofing the ball into the channel for 90 minutes attempting to win throw ins.. if I wanted to see that I would go and watch Rugby Union.

How dare a team employ a strategy that gives them the best chance to win!

 

[Houston_Blade]

Didn't we score 2 goals from their long throws?! Can't remember exactly but we broke on the last 2 goals so assume it was a corner or more likely a long throw.

 

[OttBlade]

I think the officials spotting that nearly every throw he made (certainly at their ground) he encroached the pitch would have been a start.

 

[Harry's Game]

How dare a team employ a strategy that gives them the best chance to win!

Its not against the rules but when implemented like Wrexham do and like Stoke did it makes the game an awful watch.

And I know we have used the long throw to our advantage at times as well When I say that.

 

[Snowflake]

A full risk assessment needs to be carried out and I want the specific (not generic) RAMS on my desk first thing in the morning. I won't be there and I don't have a desk of course.

Male sheep on a desk that doesn’t exist ? Are you enjoying today ?

 

[Rochdaleblade]

I think the officials spotting that nearly every throw he made (certainly at their ground) he encroached the pitch would have been a start.

Was just about to post the same. Moving the hoardings only works if the thrower doesn't run onto the pitch

 

[Crafty Blade]

My thoughts on long throws are now similar to Arsene Wengers, ban them, spoils the game when you have sides like Wrexham just hoofing the ball into the channel for 90 minutes attempting to win throw ins.. if I wanted to see that I would go and watch Rugby Union.

How exactly could you ban the long throw?

 

[Harry's Game]

Only allow the ball to be thrown backwards. Technically you could still have a long Throw from near the corner flag but at least it stops the ball being hurled in from near the half way line

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

Rely on long throws

That’s heckyball

 

[Reus]

So are you suggesting as part of our pre game analysis of the opponents, we add the following...
Does the opposition have a long throw expert?
Is said player expected to play?
What style is said long throw expert.
If yes to above, then reconfigure stadium layout to negate this threat
Seems a bit OTT to me.

Ok, May be not reconfigure the stadium, but put perhaps install some quicksand or pitfalls traps I am sure however that the analysis that you mention is already part of the pre-match assessment. Would it hurt to looking at ways to reduce an opposition teams advantage in one particular aspect ?

 

[BerksBlade]

How exactly could you ban the long throw?

Start by breaking both of Tozer's arms. Ok this would only affect Wrexham, but hey ho.

Maybe you could limit the distance by ruling that the thrower has to stand still? Probably still get some freak with Popeye arms who can throw it miles without a run-up.

 

[Hartley Hare]

I suggest we stop talking about Wrexham, anyone would think we have a complex.

They are yesterdays news, and it will be years before we play them again.

See ya.

HH

 

[Blend-it-like-Harris]

It might have helped in both games if the officials had simply kept an eye on Tozer's fucking toes!!!

 

[Beans]

My thoughts on long throws are now similar to Arsene Wengers, ban them, spoils the game when you have sides like Wrexham just hoofing the ball into the channel for 90 minutes attempting to win throw ins.. if I wanted to see that I would go and watch Rugby Union.

I don't mind long throws per se, but I really do mind how long it takes (yes, even when it's Jack Robinson lining one up). It's increasingly mad to me that everyone is just okay with throw-ins taking around 30 seconds, in a game that is fundamentally about kicking a ball. Because I am petty I counted how long it took Rotherham to take a random throw-in on the halfway line (so not even in a dangerous area) in the FIRST HALF of our game last week - 28 seconds.

Throw-ins happen loads - there were 59 in the Rotherham game, 65 in the Hull game - and while obviously not all of them take 20+ seconds, I would love to see something like a time limit on how long you have to take one, eg 10 seconds that essentially starts from the moment the ball is returned to the throwing team. If it's not taken in time then it's essentially a foul throw and the other team takes over.

10 seconds should still be time to lob the ball into the box if you've got a specialist, just that you don't get to spend ages polishing it with a towel. If there's one thing I definitely don't go to football to see, it's someone cleaning a ball with a towel. Get on with the game!

 

[Harry's Game]

I don't mind long throws per se, but I really do mind how long it takes (yes, even when it's Jack Robinson lining one up). It's increasingly mad to me that everyone is just okay with throw-ins taking around 30 seconds, in a game that is fundamentally about kicking a ball. Because I am petty I counted how long it took Rotherham to take a random throw-in on the halfway line (so not even in a dangerous area) in the FIRST HALF of our game last week - 28 seconds.

Throw-ins happen loads - there were 59 in the Rotherham game, 65 in the Hull game - and while obviously not all of them take 20+ seconds, I would love to see something like a time limit on how long you have to take one, eg 10 seconds that essentially starts from the moment the ball is returned to the throwing team. If it's not taken in time then it's essentially a foul throw and the other team takes over.

10 seconds should still be time to lob the ball into the box if you've got a specialist, just that you don't get to spend ages polishing it with a towel. If there's one thing I definitely don't go to football to see, it's someone cleaning a ball with a towel. Get on with the game!

True, that will get me on my other hobby horse of bringing the half’s down to 35 mis each and stop the clock every break in play and when the ball is in the keepers arms.

 

[coolasanidiot]

My thoughts on long throws are now similar to Arsene Wengers, ban them, spoils the game when you have sides like Wrexham just hoofing the ball into the channel for 90 minutes attempting to win throw ins.. if I wanted to see that I would go and watch Rugby Union.

I think we should use Jack Robinson's long throw a lot more- causes havoc against any team regardless of quality.

A manager would just say 'deal with it' but we have seen how lethal they can be, saying that I though Egan was 10/10 at dealing with them- utterly dominant and decisive in coming and getting his bonce first on them every time- absolutely brilliant from Eeegs.

 

[Harry's Game]

I think we should use Jack Robinson's long throw a lot more- causes havoc against any team regardless of quality.

A manager would just say 'deal with it' but we have seen how lethal they can be, saying that I though Egan was 10/10 at dealing with them- utterly dominant and decisive in coming and getting his bonce first on them every time- absolutely brilliant from Eeegs.

not disputing its a great weapon.. it’s just horrible on the eye when like Wrexham and Stoke it’s almost their only plan to play for long throws from minute one.

 

[Varkanoid]

I noticed that our Wrexham friend Mr. Tozer was less effective with his long throws on the John Street side of the pitch than the South stand side. He only seemed to be able to balloon the throw rather than have more of a flat trajectory. The gap between the pitch and the stand is much narrower on the John Street side. Pre-match could we have moved the advertising boards closer to the pitch on the South Stand side and reduce this risk ? BTW - The size of the gap doesn’t seem to affect JLT.

naw it was the Blades fans behind him tickling his bollocks.

 

[Blade-on-Tyne]

Only allow the ball to be thrown backwards. Technically you could still have a long Throw from near the corner flag but at least it stops the ball being hurled in from near the half way line

That’s what they do in Aussie Rules. Makes every throw in a 50/50 ball. Do we really want that ?