Local derby. You what!

[KeithEdsgoalWards]

Swillsborough 3.4 miles.
Rotherham 4.8 miles.
Chezzyy 9 miles.
Baaaarnsley 12 miles.
Hudders 23 miles.
Halifax 29 miles.
stockport 30 miles.
Man city 38 miles.
Man Utd 35 miles.

Hull and their The MKM stadium are 63 miles away, yet they have this weird notion they're our rivals and it's a local derby.
You wut mate!

 

[finlaytheblade]

Swillsborough 3.4 miles.
Rotherham 4.8 miles.
Chezzyy 9 miles.
Baaaarnsley 12 miles.
Hudders 23 miles.
Halifax 29 miles.
stockport 30 miles.
Man city 38 miles.
Man Utd 35 miles.

Hull and their The MKM stadium are 63 miles away, yet they have this weird notion they're our rivals and it's a local derby.
You wut mate!

What about Dony & Chessy

 

[KeithEdsgoalWards]

What about Dony & Chessy

Chezzy is in there. Donny are a bunch of travellers so hard to nail down a distance for them.

 

[184blade]

Like Middlesbrough they are desperate to manufacture a rivalry with someone.

 

[Camden Blade]

Like Middlesbrough they are desperate to manufacture a rivalry with someone.

Don't Hull Middlesbrough have rivalry?

 

[Yellarbellyblade]

What about Dony & Chessy

Leeds 36 too

 

[FredZeppelin]

Bradford (approx.) 50 miles, Forest, Notts County, Derby and Lincoln (50 miles) too.
utb

 

[Nightsweats]

Don't Hull Middlesbrough have rivalry?

Hull v Grimsby.

Smoggies v Mackems or Barcodes.

Boro used to be/still is in Yorkshire so there is a tenuous link with them on that score.
Yorkshire CCC played there and whilst I could be wrong think they still do.

 

[KeithEdsgoalWards]

Ok people. The clubs mentioned in the original post were just a few examples tio highlight the spozziness of the derby claim. Let's not list every club within less than 63 miles till we get down to Aston juniors.

 

[HVR]

'Derby' doesn't mean local, it means a 'highlight' or 'special'. It was a term invented to promote special occasion sporting contests - so the Epsom Derby, Aintree Derby - are special races run at a racecourse that has racing every day.
Hence the term 'local derby' 'Manchester derby' 'Sheffield Derby' there's no specific reason why a derby is a derby - hence the proceeding noun to clarify it.
In English football, the purist, original 'Derby' would be the FA Cup Final - a game of football similar to all football matches played all around the country, but with a specific occasion attached to it.
Sheffield United v Hull could be classed as a 'Yorkshire Derby' as both clubs are in Yorkshire, but as this is not really a special game, I agree it's not a derby, but not because of distance - just that we don't give a shit about Hull.

 

[HighfieldBlade]

We've got nurr lurrkle raaaahvalry with Hull.

 

[alcoblade]

'Derby' doesn't mean local, it means a 'highlight' or 'special'. It was a term invented to promote special occasion sporting contests - so the Epsom Derby, Aintree Derby - are special races run at a racecourse that has racing every day.
Hence the term 'local derby' 'Manchester derby' 'Sheffield Derby' there's no specific reason why a derby is a derby - hence the proceeding noun to clarify it.
In English football, the purist, original 'Derby' would be the FA Cup Final - a game of football similar to all football matches played all around the country, but with a specific occasion attached to it.
Sheffield United v Hull could be classed as a 'Yorkshire Derby' as both clubs are in Yorkshire, but as this is not really a special game, I agree it's not a derby, but not because of distance - just that we don't give a shit about Hull.

Whilst technically correct, just about everyone’s understanding of a derby in football is “local”.

 

[HVR]

Whilst technically correct, just about everyone’s understanding of a derby in football is “local”.

Yes, because playing a local team is a special occasion. But there can be other instances, Hull isn't one! Just pointing out that a lot of people think Derby means it's 2 local teams, but it's not always that.

 

[Stretch]

We speak the same language, well sort of, and that's about it.

"The Not Southern Wankers Derby" has a nice ring to it.

 

[Nightsweats]

What Derby means in football?


(also derby) a sports competition, especially a game of football, between two teams from the same city or area. Competitions, & parts of competitions. be a game of two halves idiom

 

[Isar]

Some Hull fans are just trying to manufacture a rivalry with us. Grimsby and Scunny are their rivals.
Twats.

 

[Lupa The Noa]

Swillsborough 3.4 miles.
Rotherham 4.8 miles.
Chezzyy 9 miles.
Baaaarnsley 12 miles.
Hudders 23 miles.
Halifax 29 miles.
stockport 30 miles.
Man city 38 miles.
Man Utd 35 miles.

Hull and their The MKM stadium are 63 miles away, yet they have this weird notion they're our rivals and it's a local derby.
You wut mate!

Blackburn, Burnley, Stoke, Leeds, Forest, Derby, Lincoln, Mansfield, Leicester, Bradford are all closer!

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

'Derby' doesn't mean local, it means a 'highlight' or 'special'. It was a term invented to promote special occasion sporting contests - so the Epsom Derby, Aintree Derby - are special races run at a racecourse that has racing every day.
Hence the term 'local derby' 'Manchester derby' 'Sheffield Derby' there's no specific reason why a derby is a derby - hence the proceeding noun to clarify it.
In English football, the purist, original 'Derby' would be the FA Cup Final - a game of football similar to all football matches played all around the country, but with a specific occasion attached to it.
Sheffield United v Hull could be classed as a 'Yorkshire Derby' as both clubs are in Yorkshire, but as this is not really a special game, I agree it's not a derby, but not because of distance - just that we don't give a shit about Hull.

Except everyone uses it as 'local' . That is its evolved current meaning.

 

[Bell4]

'Derby' doesn't mean local, it means a 'highlight' or 'special'. It was a term invented to promote special occasion sporting contests - so the Epsom Derby, Aintree Derby - are special races run at a racecourse that has racing every day.
Hence the term 'local derby' 'Manchester derby' 'Sheffield Derby' there's no specific reason why a derby is a derby - hence the proceeding noun to clarify it.
In English football, the purist, original 'Derby' would be the FA Cup Final - a game of football similar to all football matches played all around the country, but with a specific occasion attached to it.
Sheffield United v Hull could be classed as a 'Yorkshire Derby' as both clubs are in Yorkshire, but as this is not really a special game, I agree it's not a derby, but not because of distance - just that we don't give a shit about Hull.

This forum is an educational gem

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

Feynoord is a very short drive from Hull.

 

[100% part time blade]

What Derby means in football?


(also derby) a sports competition, especially a game of football, between two teams from the same city or area. Competitions, & parts of competitions. be a game of two halves idiom

True, but that website’s definition there is of “local derby” - which is then sometimes shortened to “derby”.
Dictionaries just reflect usage, and most people now use ‘derby’ in football conversations to refer solely to matches between local teams, so it will probably come to mean just this eventually, in these circumstances, at some point.
By absolutely any definition you like, a championship game in January between Hull and Sheffield United is not a derby.

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

This forum is an educational gem

A gem can only be educational in the study of crystallography or geology.

 

[Bell4]

A gem can only be educational in the study of crystallography or geology.

My point entirely

 

[Paulus]

My definition of a Derby is a game where there there is a general mixing of the supporters of both teams at work or in the pub or whatever in the lead up and after the match ignoring wanker tv fans, on that basis there are very few genuine "derbies" in Britain. Sheffield, Manchester, Liverpool, Bristol (yeah I know) Glasgow, Edinburgh, Dundee Birmingham, Black Country and Arsenal v Tottenham. I would have put West Ham v Millwall in there as well in the past but since the ground move less so. Newcastle v Sunderland is undoubtedly a big rivalry but it aint a derby in my reckoning. Chelsea v Fulham should be in there but proper fans are in such a minority at both clubs it doesn't really count.

 

[shorehamview]

Considering how small the planet is in the greater scheme of galactic shenanigans, every other team in the world could be said to be “in our area”. However for me we one have one derby, and that’s against the scruffs from S6. All the other games are just other games, there may be some historical rivalry, but I don’t consider them derbies. Rotherham? Donny Rovers? Leeds? Nope. As for Hull, they can fuck off, the scarfless twats.

 

[Wapping Blade]

Some Hull fans are just trying to manufacture a rivalry with us. Grimsby and Scunny are their rivals.
Twats.

More like Beverley Town and North Ferriby.

 

[biggiesablade]

Chezzy is in there. Donny are a bunch of travellers so hard to nail down a distance for them.

Your rise to stardom is staggering, fast becoming a reyt poster.

 

[JohnDenver]

Hull are natural rivals to York City. Shame York have slipped into obscurity whilst Hull punch above their weight.

 

[tincan]

Hull is a northern suburb of Grimsby isn't it? Always liked Cleethorpes for a day out

 

[Greenwich Blade]

Your rise to stardom is staggering, fast becoming a reyt poster.

I think we've met him before in a previous existence.