Playing against 9 men

[Trafford]

I know that it doesn’t happen often but we were clueless. All that we had to do was keep hold of the ball and play it around their men and yet we suddenly started taking men on and pinging it across the pitch. And don’t get me started on the corners - yes, I know we eventually scored from one but that was after it came out of the box, all the rest were exactly the same and we had at least 2 spare men on the edge of the box that we could have passed to each time.

 

[CopenhagenBlade]

Sorry, don’t get that. We weren’t hopeless. We scored 1 goal, had a goal unfairly disallowed, got a penalty, should have had another one and their keeper made a great save.
They defended with all 9 players and the box was very congested. We did what we should by working them from side to side and tried to create openings. They are also affected by the crowd

 

[robbiez666]

I know that it doesn’t happen often but we were clueless. All that we had to do was keep hold of the ball and play it around their men and yet we suddenly started taking men on and pinging it across the pitch. And don’t get me started on the corners - yes, I know we eventually scored from one but that was after it came out of the box, all the rest were exactly the same and we had at least 2 spare men on the edge of the box that we could have passed to each time.

Bit harsh for me. Sure it was mixed but we got a penalty, had a goal disallowed, scored and their keeper made a worldly. In like 17 minutes where they were timewasting. That also include Khadra putting two dire balls to no one. I do agree the corners were poor. Could easily have taken those short and pulled their players out. Also Norwood and his Hollywood passes was stupid.

Had a quick count from the BBC stats and there were 7 attempts in those 17/18 minutes.

 

[biggiesablade]

Is it slag the blades off day or summit?

 

[Houston_Blade]

The tactic of passing it to RND or Khadra for them to try and get a cross in was pathetic and frustrating in equal measure.

Overloads are something we must work on in training as it’s a bog standard coaching manual practice. We didn’t have a clue how to utilise the extra 2 men to any great effect.

 

[mattbianco1]

I know that it doesn’t happen often but we were clueless. All that we had to do was keep hold of the ball and play it around their men and yet we suddenly started taking men on and pinging it across the pitch. And don’t get me started on the corners - yes, I know we eventually scored from one but that was after it came out of the box, all the rest were exactly the same and we had at least 2 spare men on the edge of the box that we could have passed to each time.

Went to 9men with 9mins remaining. Think a little urgency was required in fairness rather than pass, pass, pass

 

[jt64]

Went to 9men with 9mins remaining. Think a little urgency was required in fairness rather than pass, pass, pass

To be fair everyone in the world saw that there would be at least 6 minutes of stoppage time, and cueing the Benny Hill music wasn't necessary

 

[Proper Blade]

In the time we played against nine men (about 18 minutes) we missed a penalty, had a goal disallowed, scored a goal and were denied 4 times by the keeper.

I mean, I'm not sure what else you were expecting. It was total carnage

 

[blade too long]

yes the red cards were minute 82 and minute 88 ,,,, Hardly time for the 10/ 9 players on the pitch to tire
we got it in the box 9 times after the sending offs
hit the inside of a post for the penalty , so half an inch out from it going in

its disappointing if they were down to 9 for 45 minutes, but not 8 mins for 10 and 2 minutes plus injury time for 9

we could have won 5-3 had their keeper not been so good

 

[Dougie]

yes the red cards were minute 82 and minute 88 ,,,, Hardly time for the 10/ 9 players on the pitch to tire
we got it in the box 9 times after the sending offs
hit the inside of a post for the penalty , so half an inch out from it going in

its disappointing if they were down to 9 for 45 minutes, but not 8 mins for 10 and 2 minutes plus injury time for 9

we could have won 5-3 had their keeper not been so good

The reds were in minutes 78 and 81 so 12 and 9 minutes plus eight minutes injury time with numerical advantage

 

[Panini]

In November 2016 we played two home games in 4 days where our opponents finished with 9 men.

Both games became attack v defence but in both we only narrowly scraped a win.

Unfortunately it almost never becomes the deluge of goals you might assume from a 2 man advantage.

We couldn't have done anything more against Blackpool. They held on to a point thanks to some good saves from their keeper, a some narrow misses from us and a incorrect offside call. It could easily have been 6-3 but it just doesn't go like that.

 

[Houston_Blade]

They nearly scored after we scored as well, don't forget that.

 

[blade too long]

The reds were in minutes 78 and 81 so 12 and 9 minutes plus eight minutes injury time with numerical advantage

but playing with everyone back for 10 minutes is like leaving 2 up front in case of a breakaway

its never easy in such a short period

 

[ISZA ⚔️]

The tactic of passing it to RND or Khadra for them to try and get a cross in was pathetic and frustrating in equal measure.

Overloads are something we must work on in training as it’s a bog standard coaching manual practice. We didn’t have a clue how to utilise the extra 2 men to any great effect.

The thing is the overload is one of our tactics against 11 men. And when it works it makes the opposition appear like they have fewer bodies. So for us to struggle to implement it against 9 actual men was poor to unacceptable.

 

[ISZA ⚔️]

In the time we played against nine men (about 18 minutes) we missed a penalty, had a goal disallowed, scored a goal and were denied 4 times by the keeper.

I mean, I'm not sure what else you were expecting. It was total carnage

To win.

 

[Houston_Blade]

but playing with everyone back for 10 minutes is like leaving 2 up front in case of a breakaway

its never easy in such a short period

They had a centre forward at left back and Khadra didn't have the wherewithal to get past him on a single occasion, opting instead to play shit crosses or passes.

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

They had a centre forward at left back and Khadra didn't have the wherewithal to get past him on a single occasion, opting instead to play shit crosses or passes.

Post #2 shows the consensus of opinion :


Not to say they are all right, but that's an overwhelming number of people.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Post #2 shows the consensus of opinion :

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Not to say they are all right, but that's an overwhelming number of people.

Playing devil's advocate........

We crossed the ball to their players a lot, got a lot of corners and put them all to the same area, we got awarded a pen that was soft and then denied a nailed on pen so they even out.

We didn't really show much guile in my opinion, it was the same pattern every time we went forward and but for a great finish from Norwood that would probably have been disallowed for offside if VAR was involved (this offsets the Anel one that probably would have been given) we didn't really do enough.

In my opinion we got the point that we deserved out of the game but when you're 2 nil up at home you shouldn't be chasing a point at 90+8!

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

Playing devil's advocate........

We crossed the ball to their players a lot, got a lot of corners and put them all to the same area, we got awarded a pen that was soft and then denied a nailed on pen so they even out.

We didn't really show much guile in my opinion, it was the same pattern every time we went forward and but for a great finish from Norwood that would probably have been disallowed for offside if VAR was involved (this offsets the Anel one that probably would have been given) we didn't really do enough.

In my opinion we got the point that we deserved out of the game but when you're 2 nil up at home you shouldn't be chasing a point at 90+8!

Maybe, but that's related to them scoring 3, not the 9 men bit.

 

[Gimli]

In November 2016 we played two home games in 4 days where our opponents finished with 9 men.

Both games became attack v defence but in both we only narrowly scraped a win.

Unfortunately it almost never becomes the deluge of goals you might assume from a 2 man advantage.

We couldn't have done anything more against Blackpool. They held on to a point thanks to some good saves from their keeper, a some narrow misses from us and a incorrect offside call. It could easily have been 6-3 but it just doesn't go like that.

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We technically lost 1-0 to 9 man Shrewsbury

 

[blade too long]

we aren't the first and wont be the last to drop points against fewer players

man City with 10 men came from 3 down at spurs to win 4-3..before they were massive

 

[Nightsweats]

Being down to 9 men when leading or drawing isn't necessarily a shoe in for the team with 11. You can defend very solidly with 9 as you don't have any need to score. How we performed with a 2 man advantage wasn't an issue to me. How we defended for the 3 goals they scored at 11 v 11 is where it all went wrong, showed shocking decision making , lack of management and inexcusably endlessly repeating the wrong tactic from goal kicks etc when after several failed ploys the classic "stupidity is repeating a flawed plan and expecting a different outcome" and needs addressing or Coventry will have fun tomorrow.

 

[SB_90]

the men i dont really get because instead of playing 5-3-2 they just played 5-3-0. so amount of players to break down in defence didnt really change

 

[LudlamBlade]

The reds were in minutes 78 and 81 so 12 and 9 minutes plus eight minutes injury time with numerical advantage

 

[bertieblade]

Some decent figures

 

[Gimli]

the men i dont really get because instead of playing 5-3-2 they just played 5-3-0. so amount of players to break down in defence didnt really change

Yeah kind of, but also that means our defence literally has nobody to worry about marking so can join the attack at will.

Your point is still valid as they will stick to a rigid formation and dig in.

 

[Trafford]

Khadra didn't have the wherewithal to get past him on a single occasion, opting instead to play shit crosses or passes.

Or kick the ball out for a goalkick…..