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A few key points was the change to the Academy's and the catagorising of them. SUFC are hoping we can get Catagory 2! I seem to remember a pig official recently saying the same thing... Ours is a state of the art complex with several pitches. Theirs is a tent in a field, if they get catagory 2 and we get catagory 3 then the Premier League guidelines for academies are wrong imo.

The Beam Back V Exeter is being looked into. I was under the impression, it was a beam back to BDTBL. But this will only happen if there is interest and we still are in with a shout of finishing the season in Auto places. The Club want it... But do the Fans??

HOLD Music: The whole telephone system is being over-hauled during the close season. The Hold music should change.

Testamonials: There are NO testamonials planned for Morgan or Montgomery.

The Star and the Bias: The club Aren't bothered, Our policy is: "We just get on with it" why create more publicity when it's not needed.

The Malta Family Stand: there is to be a look at the stand and it's enhabitants. It seems it started out well as a family stand 10-15 years ago, but those "Children" have now grown up and still sit on the Family Stand.
The Definition of "Family" Stand may need looking at, but it does seem that there will be an age restriction brought into place.
eg. You can only purchase any ticket(Including Season Tickets) for the Family stand IF you are accompanied by a child under 13.

Stewards: We have no control over the stewards, they are recommended from a football league approved representative. We just have to pay for it.

Their maybe a voucher system in place on entry into the ground. The aim is to buy your half time refreshments before you sit down to watch the match. Therefore, the kiosks will have an idea of demand and act accordingly. (Good Idea imo)

The club know there are Pouring issues in the kiosks.

The Aim is that Our academy makes up 40-50% of the first team in 3 years-ish! That is an aim not a fore-gone conclusion.

There seems to be some confusion when Loyalty points get awarded for renewing season tickets, Well it has been asked tonight and they will be awarded AFTER this season has completely finished!!

Listen Guys and Gals! The club want feed back on the Beamback and whether it will be in demand. There is also an on-line survey about Service and the Matchday on the web-site now. It's about what you want from within the club. Please fill it in, the more replies they get the better things can change for the better.

That's about it, in brief
 



Thank you very much for that.
Although they said the phone system will be overhauled, was there any mention of having a standard number or no cost number?
Are the club tied in to some sort of contract with the phone system?
 
thanks for that. some interesting points which have been raised.
The one that annoys me is the family stand 'issue'. I am one of those who has grown up whilst sitting in that stand with my dad. We always have sat in there (apart from on the odd time we sat in a corner for a bit of variety) but why should we have to move just becuase I am 22 now? Just because i have grown up it makes us no less of a family as we were 10 years ago? he is still my DAD and i am still his SON - even when im 40 and hes 70 odd we are still a family??? we are a family and therefore should be allowed to sit in family stand.
If they do stop us becuase i am too old to be classed as family to my dad (in their eyes) then i will be very dissapointed because of united as I dont really like sitting anywhere else. The reason we have continued to sit in the family stand is because we like the view and the stand as a whole.

UTB
 
The reason we have continued to sit in the family stand is because we like the view and the stand as a whole.UTB

You like United, you like the Stand and the View, Pah!

Get back in your pigeon hole, at 22 you should be on the Kop, belching, farting, smoking pot, and being obnoxious.
 
thanks for that. some interesting points which have been raised.
The one that annoys me is the family stand 'issue'. I am one of those who has grown up whilst sitting in that stand with my dad. We always have sat in there (apart from on the odd time we sat in a corner for a bit of variety) but why should we have to move just becuase I am 22 now? Just because i have grown up it makes us no less of a family as we were 10 years ago? he is still my DAD and i am still his SON - even when im 40 and hes 70 odd we are still a family??? we are a family and therefore should be allowed to sit in family stand.
If they do stop us becuase i am too old to be classed as family to my dad (in their eyes) then i will be very dissapointed because of united as I dont really like sitting anywhere else. The reason we have continued to sit in the family stand is because we like the view and the stand as a whole.

UTB

That's a very good point. However, if everybody felt the same as you and remaining there was allowed indefinitely, eventually, the stand would be full, but without any children at all.

Several years ago, the Mum and Dad who were sat next to us went to renew, but withour thir son, who was by then grown up and living in South Wales. They were told they would have to move stands and they said they would simply not renew, as they felt like you do and didn't want to sit anywhere else. The club allowed them to renew and they're still there. You could always try that tactic, nothing to lose.
 
So does anyone have a link to the survey, and is there anything on the survey about the club promoting such surveys?

Cos as far as I see they've not promoted this one very well.
 
Can't they do a 'split' on the family stand. I remember that when I started going in 98' that tickets said either John Street or Family Enclosure, depending on which half you were sitting. Presumably the Kop side could be dedicated to families and then take a more lax approach on the other side - allowing anyone to sit there.

From my viewpoint on the Kop, it's John Street which appears to have lost the biggest number of people sitting there. Even when considering the overall drop. Can the club afford to impose a ban on anyone without a child? How would this affect the attendances on that side?
 
That's a very good point. However, if everybody felt the same as you and remaining there was allowed indefinitely, eventually, the stand would be full, but without any children at all.

Several years ago, the Mum and Dad who were sat next to us went to renew, but withour thir son, who was by then grown up and living in South Wales. They were told they would have to move stands and they said they would simply not renew, as they felt like you do and didn't want to sit anywhere else. The club allowed them to renew and they're still there. You could always try that tactic, nothing to lose.

Personally I'd hate having to move from the family stand. Have sat there my whole life and can't imagine sitting anywhere else.
 
Why can't they just move the designated family stand then, say to the BLUT?
 
You like United, you like the Stand and the View, Pah!

Get back in your pigeon hole, at 22 you should be on the Kop, belching, farting, smoking pot, and being obnoxious.

get back in your pigeon hole....

i would do if me and my dad could sit down in the Kop... with me being 6 foot 4 and my dad 6 foot 2, our legs down fit behind the sit in front of us so we either end of in a great deal of discomfot or constantly kneeing the people in front of us. And anyway - i dislike watching football from an end like that. Can put up with it at away days but not at the lane.
 
The last I'd heard anything about it from the club was that you could renew your season tickets every season in the "family" stand, whether you'd qualify under the rules or not, as long as you were only renewing and qualified in the past. If you didn't qualify you couldn't get a new season ticket, but renewing old ones each season was fine.

I could understand the club making you sit elsewhere if you'd got too old or didn't qualify for other reasons as detailed in other posts if there was a big waiting list for season tickets, but as it's less than capacity I can't see a problem. If there is then the best bet would be to contact someone like Mick Rooker and see if he can help - he usually goes well beyond what anyone else would do to help Blades out, regardless of whose job it actually is.
 
Why the resistance to moving to the South Stand? Is it costlier?

Just wondered, because the view is actually better in the sense you don't get the glare of the setting sun *ahem*. The seats are equally spacious too.
 
Why the resistance to moving to the South Stand? Is it costlier?

Just wondered, because the view is actually better in the sense you don't get the glare of the setting sun *ahem*. The seats are equally spacious too.

As far as im aware its the same price. Me and my dad have always sat near the back so the sun as never been a big issue for us - only when there is a lunchtime kick off which isnt really that often and then when the sun is out and a lunch time kick off is even less frequent. And me my dad simple dont like the south stand, for one we find it much colder (more of a problem for my dad) and its just not the family stand...
My main point is down to principle - as in we're still a family so therefore should be allowed to sit in the family stand. I completely understand where united is coming from that eventually all the kids grow up and it gets full but at the moment especially its not even close to capacity but I disagree with them.

PS. has anyone found this survey yet? Ive looked on the OS but cant find it.
Found the survey in an email from the club. it appears as if each survey link is unique to the receiver.
 



I think the club are right in principle - It's pretty clear what's meant by "family stand" and it's not 35 year old blokes with 65 year old Dad's sat together. But that said, I'm not sure why the issue needs tackling right now. It appears to be by far the emptiest stand at the moment so there's no restriction on families wanting to sit there, and it's doubtful thows who've grown up in the stand woud create a non "family" atmosphere.

John Street would begin to look poor should more people be moved out.

UTB
 
Nobody's mentioned the fact that when the old John Street was demolished, all ST holders who were in said stand were promised that they could sit in new stand when it was built. Which is why we've been there ever since. Surely only half the stand needs to be classed as family stand and all us old John Streetonians can be in the other half. Tried both the kop and South stand whilst John Street was lying empty and it's just not the same somehow.
 
Why can't they just move the designated family stand then, say to the BLUT?
Er...because you'd be doing the same thing to the people who want to stay on the John Street, but also want to be in the family stand? Besides, you'd just be creating the exact same problem down the line, when families don't want to move from the upper tier (it is the best view in the ground, after all).

Surely the sensible thing is as people have said - keep John Street as the family stand, but be a bit more lax about the rules in one half of it; you can stay if you're in the half nearest Bramall Lane, or are willing to move there.
 
When we moved into the new John Street when it was built (from H block on the South Stand), the family stand only stretched to the half way line from the Kop side. We sit *just* the other side of half way, in the old none family half.

If we are told we have to move at any stage, I'll be less than pleased to say the least, I've sat in that seat every week ever since it was there to be sat in, it's a great view and we have no chance of moving to one that would equal it.

This has however been discussed many times over the years, always resulting in very little change in the rules on renewing in the area.

Thank you very much for that.
Although they said the phone system will be overhauled, was there any mention of having a standard number or no cost number?
Are the club tied in to some sort of contract with the phone system?

Both have been mentioned and suggested a number of times in the last few years, the updates have always been "watch this space", so watch this space over the summer and hopefully we'll be pleasantly surprised.
 
Can you ask at the next one why they insist on changing kits every year other than to make more money. I have one this year but wont buy another as you only get one season out of them
 
Can you ask at the next one why they insist on changing kits every year other than to make more money. I have one this year but wont buy another as you only get one season out of them
That doesn't bother me too much as I tend to just wait till the end of the season and pick one up for £10-£20. It also helps that most of the recent ones have been garbage so I don't want to buy them anyway!
 
thanks for that. some interesting points which have been raised.
The one that annoys me is the family stand 'issue'. I am one of those who has grown up whilst sitting in that stand with my dad. We always have sat in there (apart from on the odd time we sat in a corner for a bit of variety) but why should we have to move just becuase I am 22 now? Just because i have grown up it makes us no less of a family as we were 10 years ago? he is still my DAD and i am still his SON - even when im 40 and hes 70 odd we are still a family??? we are a family and therefore should be allowed to sit in family stand.
If they do stop us becuase i am too old to be classed as family to my dad (in their eyes) then i will be very dissapointed because of united as I dont really like sitting anywhere else. The reason we have continued to sit in the family stand is because we like the view and the stand as a whole. UTB

It seems to me that there must have been some complaints about a few people without kids engaging in unfamily-friendly behaviour. Why can't they just ask the few bad apples to move to a more suitable stand than impose a blanket ban on anyone without kids?
 

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