Love United, Hate Wilson hey ?!?!

[mattbianco1]

Get down to the club tomro and protest and hopefully we can get sack the guy or changed the mind if we love the club get down boy and girls cheers

i think wilson once said something bad the blades

I will definately go

McCabe has lost the plot. After all his talk about rebuilding bridges with the fans, he is going to appoint a Pig as our manager?

Am angry now. This isn't right. End of the day, Mr. McCabe, it is OUR club whoever owns the most shares. If WE don't show up, the club dies. I don't want Wilson in charge of my club - he supported Wednesday, played for Wednesday and managed Wednesday. He is blue and white to the core. Joke decision.

He wont get given any time form the supporters because of his past.
Probably need to wear a tin hat every game.

Have to say this appointment, if true, would be completely underwhelming.
Many more people will lose the will to go and apathy will rule even more than it does now.

At least I won't need a change of avatar if Wilson is appointed

Is it wrong that I see any protest as more understandable than the infamous Robson carpark occupation.

It's s genuinely shocking appointment on so many levels.

time to phone the credit card company. someone has renewed my season ticket. wasn't me, need my money back

or move to sit behind Wilson and chuck coins at him the minute we concede

post: 339975"]http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=100806400013267

Please feel free to come down and join.

It is a call to arms for all Blades who don't like this appointment, and don't like the way the club has been run for the last few years

Well if the crap season ticket campaign hadn't already put fans off then the appointment of Wilson will do.

I've emailed the club at [email protected] expressing my dissapointment

I actually said "Danny Wilson? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

Hope it works lol

Maybe we should all flood the email address before pen is put to paper

How are you all feeling now after throwing your toys out the pram in the summer.

Has mummy made you pick them back up?

 

[Ollessendro]

Get rid of the Pig!!!!

How could I resist??????

 

[Rodley]

Does it matter?!

 

[iggle-theblade]

the skin head holding the banner was the one on total wipeout saturday 11/02/2012

it wouldn't be football with out this sort of thing and it shows the fans are passionate about the club and what goes on
you only had to look at wilsons record b4 for us and add the ex wednesday it was bound to rile the fans.

but he has won the fans over and everyone at the club is pulling in the right direction for now but it can all change very quick in football.

 

[judge]

I saw his appointment as a kick inthe teeth and a big I don't care what you think by McCabe to me and many other fans
I've no problem with his ex pig past , I just thought he had a very average record of managing lower league clubs

Brownies is the funniest quote , he organised that demo and never turned up went on the piss instead Lol

 

[Rodley]

the skin head holding the banner was the one on total wipeout saturday 11/02/2012

it wouldn't be football with out this sort of thing and it shows the fans are passionate about the club and what goes on
you only had to look at wilsons record b4 for us and add the ex wednesday it was bound to rile the fans.

but he has won the fans over and everyone at the club is pulling in the right direction for now but it can all change very quick in football.

I think it's fair to say that given Ollesendro has spent months on the internet taking the piss out of these lads he won't make their Christmas list!!!

 

[broomhillblade]

Named and shamed ...

 

[Grecian2000]

Named and shamed ...

Didn't want him either but never particularly vitriolic about it. Happy to be wrong . . .

Now who's going to start the thread dredging up old quotes supporting Hoofy and AleHouse as they dragged us down into the shit Wilson is trying to get us out of?

 

[Darren]

Didn't want him either but never particularly vitriolic about it. Happy to be wrong . . .

Now who's going to start the thread dredging up old quotes supporting Hoofy and AleHouse as they dragged us down into the shit Wilson is trying to get us out of?

If by "Hoofy" you mean Blackwell, he most certainly did not "drag us into the shit", given that we finished 9th, 3rd and 8th under his aegis.

 

[Grecian2000]

Disagree entirely Dazzler.

Gathered together the hopeless squad that got us into this mess, performing worse and worse (and far more negatively than any other Blades team I've ever seen) each week. Set the ball rolling and no-one could stop it.

 

[Selly]

Disagree entirely Dazzler.

Gathered together the hopeless squad that got us into this mess, performing worse and worse (and far more negatively than any other Blades team I've ever seen) each week. Set the ball rolling and no-one could stop it.

IMO, we would have avoided relegation last season if Blackwell had been in charge for the whole of it...

 

[Jehovah]

He deserves credit for being the first manager weve had in years to realise that Monty is shit.

 

[Revolution]

Now who's going to start the thread dredging up old quotes supporting Hoofy and AleHouse as they dragged us down into the shit Wilson is trying to get us out of?

On that subject, my absolute favourite quote from (early in) the Adams era, responding to my suggestion we would go down:

"predicting United's poor finish to the season suggests that you also have clairvoyance at your disposal. A real supporter wouldn't dismiss our chances so lightly, particularly after seeing the improvements since the arrival of Mickey Adams and Corky."

 

[raul]

Do you miss him you know nowt?

 

[Darren]

Disagree entirely Dazzler.

Gathered together the hopeless squad that got us into this mess, performing worse and worse (and far more negatively than any other Blades team I've ever seen) each week. Set the ball rolling and no-one could stop it.

Set the ball rolling? So how do you explain a consistent finish in and around the play offs for the whole of his tenure (even with the pretty poor 2009-10 squad)?

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IMO, we would have avoided relegation last season if Blackwell had been in charge for the whole of it...

That's probably the only thing you and I agree on!

The sacking after 2 league games was madness. If we thought KB had taken us as far as he could we should have parted comapny in the summer of 2010, thus giving a new man time to put his own squad together. Once KB had started 2010-11, he should have been allowed to see it through and, as you say, would probably have kept us in a boring and safe mid table position.

The sacking of Clark has a lot of similarities - fans disliking unattractive football despite reasonably good results and those in charge bowing to fan pressure after a bad home defeat.

 

[Revolution]

The sacking after 2 league games was madness. If we thought KB had taken us as far as he could we should have parted comapny in the summer of 2010, thus giving a new man time to put his own squad together. Once KB had started 2010-11, he should have been allowed to see it through and, as you say, would probably have kept us in a boring and safe mid table position.

And who would have been scoring the goals to secure this mid-table position? Or, for that matter, laying them on, given the scrappy midget festival in midfield....

 

[Deleted member 875]

I'm happy to be named and shamed, as it makes me a lot happy for the Blades to be doing well and for me to be proved wrong rather to be able to turn round and say i told you as crowds plummet and the Blades fight delegation to the leave below.

I didnt want Wilson at the time, but absolutely delighted with the job that he has been doing, and I've also discussed the protest, my role in it, and the reasons behind it, in some open, honest and frank e-mail correspondence with DW over the last few months.

 

[Selly]

That's probably the only thing you and I agree on!

That, and religion...

 

[Torrix1889]

I wasn't over the moon about DW's appointment but accepted that it was probably a sad reflection of where we were at the time.

Just shows how quickly football can change, look at The Pigs, 2 weeks ago they were well and truly on the up, I think someone also said they were "Massive".............now they have lost 2 games, want Megson out and Uncle Milan, (in whom they trust) wants to bail and are in meltdown

 

[Darren]

The sacking after 2 league games was madness. If we thought KB had taken us as far as he could we should have parted comapny in the summer of 2010, thus giving a new man time to put his own squad together. Once KB had started 2010-11, he should have been allowed to see it through and, as you say, would probably have kept us in a boring and safe mid table position.

And who would have been scoring the goals to secure this mid-table position? Or, for that matter, laying them on, given the scrappy midget festival in midfield....

Was our squad that different to the second half of 2009-10? We had gained Ertl, Britton, Bogdanovic and Kozluk and lost Harper, Stewart, Fortune, Camara and Little. A don't see that as a major weakening and see no reason why the 2010-11 squad could not as performed as well as the 2009-10 one.

(NB: I know we lost Kenny and Naysmith and well, but as they hardly played in 2009-10, I think we can discount them for comparism purposes).

 

[Bladesman]

Don't start quoting me.

I ate my humble pie before Christmas and said I am being proved wrong so far.

Like I said then though the season is not over yet and I will hopefully be eating more humble pie come May.

The change in the quality of football regardless of whether we go up or not has won me over so far if I am honest.

 

[SotonBlade]

post: 391888"]I'm happy to be named and shamed, as it makes me a lot happy for the Blades to be doing well and for me to be proved wrong rather to be able to turn round and say i told you as crowds plummet and the Blades fight delegation to the leave below.

I didnt want Wilson at the time, but absolutely delighted with the job that he has been doing, and I've also discussed the protest, my role in it, and the reasons behind it, in some open, honest and frank e-mail correspondence with DW over the last few months.

How do you get hold of such an e-mail address Mr Brownie sir if you please?

 

[SwissBlade]

I made a lot of comments in the summer and expressed my disgust at the appointment at the time. However, I've eaten humble pie this week and will continue to do so with a smile on my face.

I said on numerous occasions that in an argument of style v effectiveness, effectiveness will always win, but Wilson has brought both elements to the party and with not a single piece of resentment from myside towards Wilson I am loving it.

We always had the team to go up automatically, my expectations are being met there. I always believed that we had what it takes, I was unsure that Wilson could deliver this and he still might not. However, he has surpassed my expectations in so many ways that I didn't expect.

He's gone about his business quietly, without fuss, without excuses, made promises that he can keep and been professional throughout. He had to, his back was against the wall before that first press conference. He's got some balls and he's obviously got confidence in his own ability. Not arrogance, pure confidence.

The team reflects Danny Wilsons personality.

He's almost geled the fans and the club and the fans and the fans.

Well done Danny.

 

[Houso]

I've certainly eaten humble pie since. And am more than happy to do so again.

That said, I'd still maintain that on the face of it, it was an awful appointment.

Regardless, McCabe pulled out a brilliant decision from nowhere and has been rewarded.

Doesn't disguise that this thread is pile of steaming dogshit though.

 

[Revolution]

Was our squad that different to the second half of 2009-10? We had gained Ertl, Britton, Bogdanovic and Kozluk and lost Harper, Stewart, Fortune, Camara and Little. A don't see that as a major weakening and see no reason why the 2010-11 squad could not as performed as well as the 2009-10 one.

Well, the players you've added contributed virtually nothing in terms of goals or creation - Bogdanovic won a few pens but was a major letdown. Plus:

- Cresswell fell off a cliff a season later than was originally predicted
- Henderson hardly played until we were all but down
- Evans was poor aside from a brief good patch in the middle
- Ward was unhappy going into the season and soon wore out his welcome.

Blackwell knew Ward wanted away, knew Evans was a bust in that division, and knew Hendo was out for months. In response, he signed Bogdanovic, Simon Walton and Leon Britton. Again, where did he think the goals were coming from? Add Simonsen's (surprising) collapse and a defence of strangers and it was an accident waiting to happen.

I do not disagree that Blackwell should have gone at the end of the previous season - terrible decision by McCabe. But given the personnel we had, and the form of many of those players, it is wildly optimistic in my view to suggest Blackwell would have kept us up.

 

[Grecian2000]

Set the ball rolling? So how do you explain a consistent finish in and around the play offs for the whole of his tenure (even with the pretty poor 2009-10 squad

Ok, my definition of setting the ball rolling.

Hoofy watch:
Season 1 Feb-May 2008. Games 14 Points 27 Pts per game = 1.929
Season 2 2008-2009 Games 46 Points 80 Pts per game = 1.739 (approx .2 per game less)
Season 3 2009-2010 Games 46 Points 65 Pts per game = 1.413 (approx .3 per game less)
Season 4 2010 Games 2 Points 1 Pts per game = 0.5 (approx .9 per game less)

Given that Season 4 was somewhat curtailed and is, therefore, unfair, even without it we are going in only one direction at an increasing rate (i.e. the ball is starting to roll).

I won't even go into the selling of any wingers, pace and the turning the squad into being completely unwatchable as it makes me vomit just thinking about it.

Well done Houso for putting into words how i felt about the initial tone of this thread.

 

[JJ Sefton]

Im still not happy about having a grunter in charge at t'Lane.

 

[Darren]

Was our squad that different to the second half of 2009-10? We had gained Ertl, Britton, Bogdanovic and Kozluk and lost Harper, Stewart, Fortune, Camara and Little. A don't see that as a major weakening and see no reason why the 2010-11 squad could not as performed as well as the 2009-10 one.

Well, the players you've added contributed virtually nothing in terms of goals or creation - Bogdanovic won a few pens but was a major letdown. Plus:

- Cresswell fell off a cliff a season later than was originally predicted
- Henderson hardly played until we were all but down
- Evans was poor aside from a brief good patch in the middle
- Ward was unhappy going into the season and soon wore out his welcome.

Blackwell knew Ward wanted away, knew Evans was a bust in that division, and knew Hendo was out for months. In response, he signed Bogdanovic, Simon Walton and Leon Britton. Again, where did he think the goals were coming from? Add Simonsen's (surprising) collapse and a defence of strangers and it was an accident waiting to happen.

I do not disagree that Blackwell should have gone at the end of the previous season - terrible decision by McCabe. But given the personnel we had, and the form of many of those players, it is wildly optimistic in my view to suggest Blackwell would have kept us up.

1. We can't know if Creswell would have "fallen off a cliff" if KB had still been manager. He performed well under him in 2009-10 and whose to say he would not have done a season later. You're rather begging the question on this one.
2. True. Presumably Bogdanovic was seen as his replacement
3. Evans was better player than in 2009-10 (9 goals as opposed to 4)
4. Did Ward want away in summer 2010? What evidence is there of that?

A defence of strangers? We essentially had (Ertl apart) the same players in defence at the beginning of 2010-11 as we had in the 2nd half of 2009-10 (when we sustained upper mid table form). And whose to say Simonsen would have collapsed had KB been manager?

We were a worse team in 2010-11 than we were in 2009-10, but not that much worse and absolutely no-one as far as I am aware predicted relegation at the start of that season. Any half decent manager would have kept that team up. Blackwell would have and Speed was on course to. It was only the stunning ineptitude of Adams that sent us down.

 

[Revolution]

We were a worse team in 2010-11 than we were in 2009-10, but not that much worse and absolutely no-one as far as I am aware predicted relegation at the start of that season

I think you're wrong about that. My father was saying it at the time, and he and dozens of others who attended the Hartlepool game were saying it even louder a mere 2 games in while Blackwell was manager. As Grecian shows, things were slowly slipping back, and they reached a point of critical mass at the start of that season.

 

[mattbianco1]

If by "Hoofy" you mean Blackwell, he most certainly did not "drag us into the shit", given that we finished 9th, 3rd and 8th under his aegis.

IMO, we would have avoided relegation last season if Blackwell had been in charge for the whole of it...

Yes!! This thread has turned out better than expected. We're on to my 2nd favourite subject Kevin Blackwell.

^^^ I Agree with both of these^^^

The reason we went down is because we did have a poor team. Gotta blame McCabe over Blackwell. He had players like Hulse, Beattie, Cotterill, Kilgallon etc. sold from under him. He would've kept us up as he would've got the players playing like Wednesday are. Battering teams out of the way with sheer force and power.

Instead Speed *R.I.P* & Adams tried getting them to play the beautiful game. Quite frankly, i couldn't give a toss last season. We needed points and hoofing it would have got the points.