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[JJ Sefton]

I agree with the proviso that the people sewing the kit should be large breasted ladies from the Amazonian jungle.

From what I remember of reading National Geographic during puberty the breasts of the average Amazonian tribeswoman are only large in that they sweep their ankles. Of course, if you were going to sail some Swedish totty out there on the Kon Tiki...

 

[Highbury_Blade]

I would define "brand image" as something that distinguishes one firm in a particular area of business from its competitors. If all lawyers dress in a formal manner, then me dressing that way does not distinguish me in any way from other lawyers and thus does not constitute a "brand image". You wouldn't say that United players wearing football boots when they play games as opposed to 6 inch stilettos was part of SUFC's brand image would you?

I think you've a narrow definition of brand image. To me a brand is something that defines the company's identity, and it's something that employees should project. If you turn up in jeans to court you'll damage your firms reputation and therefore their brand image.

On the latter point, losing games due to comedy footwear would definitely affect SUFC's brand

 

[blade too long]

last nike shirt I bought was a dreadful cut and extremely short in the body , they are made for anorexic marathon runners , and from my observations they are few and far between on the kop

Macron , puma hobbit adidas nike ,lecoq, kappa , does it really matter whose brand logo is on a red and white striped football top,

I buy a sheffield united top , not a macron top, so long as it fits and doesnt fall apart after the first wash , Im sorted

 

[Darren]

I think you've a narrow definition of brand image. To me a brand is something that defines the company's identity, and it's something that employees should project. If you turn up in jeans to court you'll damage your firms reputation and therefore their brand image.

On the latter point, losing games due to comedy footwear would definitely affect SUFC's brand

But if I dress like all other lawyers or if SUFC players wear the same footwear as all other football players, that doesn't define the company's identity. It defines me and them as working in a particular industry where particular forms of dress are required.

Wearing red and white striped shirts is part of SUFC's brand image. Wearing football shirts per se is not.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

But if I dress like all other lawyers or if SUFC players wear the same footwear as all other football players, that doesn't define the company's identity. It defines me and them as working in a particular industry where particular forms of dress are required.

Wearing red and white striped shirts is part of SUFC's brand image. Wearing football shirts per se is not.

If you called the judge a cunt, do you think that would harm your firms reputation?

You need to close the Italic tag with a slash like so {/I} (Replace the braces with square brackets)

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

last nike shirt I bought was a dreadful cut and extremely short in the body , they are made for anorexic marathon runners , and from my observations they are few and far between on the kop

Macron , puma hobbit adidas nike ,lecoq, kappa , does it really matter whose brand logo is on a red and white striped football top,

I buy a sheffield united top , not a macron top, so long as it fits and doesnt fall apart after the first wash , Im sorted

I'm in agreement with this.

 

[Darren]

If you called the judge a cunt, do you think that would harm your firms reputation?

Of course it would, as that would define us as a firm whose lawyers are rude to judges and thus give us that particular "brand image". If I talk to a judge in the same way as all other lawyers (just as if I dress in the same way other lawyers do) that would not give us any kind of image that defined our identity as a company.

Surely projecting a "brand image" is about doing something that sets you apart from your rivals. It can be negative (insulting a judge) or positive (giving free lollipops with every consultation). Behaving in accordance with the accepted standards of a trade or profession is not projecting a "brand image".

 

[Highbury_Blade]

I disagree. Branding is as much about company values as it is about defining a company's image

 

[JJ Sefton]

I disagree. Branding is as much about company values as it is about defining a company's image

Pontious Phelan is going to have to agree with the Dazzler here, branding is that which differentiates one from another. Just think of where the term comes from, 'branding' livestock, the purpose of which being that you could pick your sheep out of a field full of sheep.

As Ive no idea why youre discussing this though thats as far as I go.

 

[Darren]

I disagree. Branding is as much about company values as it is about defining a company's image

But dressing smartly and being nice to judges is, if you like about professional values (as lawyers) rather than specific company values.

Anyway, surely "brand image" is something a company has a choice over. Dressing smartly and politeness to judges is a necessary condition of being a lawyer. If you turned up at Court in your cannabis T shirt and addressed the judge as "your cuntship" you would cease to be a lawyer.

 

[Worksop_Blade]

You way costs us money, the way the club is going gets us money.

Now unless you happen to have a bit of spare cash to cover this I would guess the argument is dead in the water.

Basically it revolves around you wanting to have a brand name, which we will pay for while getting hardly any benefit.

P.S. you keep bringing up quality, all the Macron kits I've bought are still in pretty good nick, so I'm not buying this poor quality argument.

I play football in my 10/11 home shirt once a week and wear it to the gym once a week and I bought it back when the club though it was worth 45 quid and it now has no macron logos on the arms, the visitmalta lettering is peeling off and the little malta star logo has curled up and is now a black 3D flower.

On the other hand I own a 09/10 umbro Citeh shirt i got for a 5er to play football in wear it about the same (I Black permo markered over the badge) and after twice the amount of time and wear I'm still a pale blue walking billboard for Etihad Airways.

I firmly stand by the opinion that sales would go up if United had a respectable company produce the merchandise.

Why should we wait until after WHUFC and LUFC receive their orders before getting ours? That loses money, as somebody has put, year after year United miss the summer market where people are looking for sports wear for their holidays etc.

I'd like to know how much in total sports direct/The FA make every summer out of United fans who would spend money on new gear for their holidays from the club shop, but cant so go down to SD and buy an England etc instead.

To be honest I wouldn't care if the club made it themselves and it was a plain red and white striped shirt like the Tony Currie era shirt as long as it fitted well, wasn't made for fat people and wasn't over designed like Macron/Le Coq/Patrick/Avec have produced.

 

[Selly]

I firmly stand by the opinion that sales would go up if United had a respectable company produce the merchandise.

I'd like to know how much in total sports direct/The FA make every summer out of United fans who would spend money on new gear for their holidays from the club shop, but cant so go down to SD and buy an England etc instead.

This. I play 5-a-side in England tops. I'd rather play in United tops, but they really are not as comfortable to play in. I'd certainly buy a United top to play in if it was of better (or even reasonable) quality...

 

[davidpinder]

I never had a problem with any of the united shirts i had when they were Umbro.

 

[stannyblade]

I never had a problem with any of the united shirts i had when they were Umbro.

Even the Le coq sportiv shirts were better. I would like to go back to umbro or even move to someone else. Dont CARLSBERG make football shirts?

 

[blade too long]

branding in football wear has no direct correlation to collecting points
the day they dock us 3 points for not wearing a top name brand , say they award a game weve won to liverpool as they had adidas kit on and we only had macron will be the day we should care about it

until then , branding is for prats
people who go out saying look , Im wearing a label , I am a top fashionista, no Primark socks on my feet.

 

[Wards]

I would buy a Nike/Adidas Utd shirt in a heartbeat. Gullible? Probably. But fact remains I haven't bought a Blades shirt or any other merchandise for that matter for years since we've had two-bit manufacturers running the show. In my opinion, they look shit and fit like tents.

 

[blade too long]

not so much gullable as a merchandisers dream, you believe the ads
Bought 2 shirts 4 weeks ago as I needed to 1 was adidas 1 1 a much cheaper one umbro

The seams on the adidas have come apart and the sleeves are more suitable to an orangutang
the cheap umbro one fits nice washes doesnt need ironing , and is very comfy

I might even start buying shirts from tesco , such is my lack of brand loyalty , as I dont believe the ads

 

[Wards]

Well done you

My Nike Italy shirt is going strong 13 years on and my Adidas Argy shirt still looks/feels new after 5 or 6.

 

[raul]

You way costs us money, the way the club is going gets us money.

Now unless you happen to have a bit of spare cash to cover this I would guess the argument is dead in the water.

Basically it revolves around you wanting to have a brand name, which we will pay for while getting hardly any benefit.

P.S. you keep bringing up quality, all the Macron kits I've bought are still in pretty good nick, so I'm not buying this poor quality argument.

So no comment can be passed upon any matter of dissatisfaction unless you have the wherewithal to pay for the solution yourself?

Fonz, save yourselves a few quid and shut the site down.

 

[Oreyt]

When it comes to shirt prices just be thankful you don't support FC Real Bristol

http://www.fcrb.net/

 

[MunXy]

Dont CARLSBERG make football shirts?

not sure on this stannyblade but if they did it would probably be the best football shirt in the world
seriously i still have several of the umbro shirts all going strong with just a little "bleaching" of such as sponser logo the 92-94 shirt for example and the 94-95 shirt.
a couple of Avec shirts the 96-97 home shirt and the purple and gold(yellow) away shirt all of which still look pretty decent.
i also have a couple of le coq away shirts the dark blue with red piping and the flourecent yellow/green with black sleeves both of these are in good nick too.
personally until recently ive been happy with the shirts but the macron seem to be "one size fits no one" tho i still like the white away shirt from 2 seasons ago (?)
the patrick one wasn't great either so i'd say go back to umbro, if the FA are using umbro for England shirts you can bet your ass they are making plenty of money from the deal so maybe we should go back to umbro.

MunXy

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

So no comment can be passed upon any matter of dissatisfaction unless you have the wherewithal to pay for the solution yourself?

Fonz, save yourselves a few quid and shut the site down.

Not exactly, but you cant say drop the kit and go with Nike without saying how you are going to replace that income.
The club arent going to swap simply so you can be fashionable and lose valuable income.

 

[raul]

What's to say Macron will continue to pay the sums they do for the pleasure of producing our kits anyway, given we're about to place a much smaller order?

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

What's to say Macron will continue to pay the sums they do for the pleasure of producing our kits anyway, given we're about to place a much smaller order?

Well they are locked into a contract currently but if they decide to renew then the argument would be up for debate. Until that is the case the board will go with the deal which generates the most money.

 

[raul]

Well as we're locked in, let's make a note to rejoin battle when we're not. I don't believe offering people cark just because Cark Supplies Inc pay you to necessarily generates the most money.

 

[SotonBlade]

I've got no problem with who makes the shirts at all. The main issues i have had with the Le Coq's and Macrons is that they try to be too over the top with designs. The likes of Umbro and Nike etc tend to keep it simple. All we need is red and white stripes. No Solid colour shoulders and sides. If Macron did something along those lines they'd get my vote. Oh and make the sponsor part of the shirt, no transfers they just peel off!

 

[Selly]

Oh and make the sponsor part of the shirt, no transfers they just peel off!

This, so many times this. It really isn`t difficult.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Well as we're locked in, let's make a note to rejoin battle when we're not. I don't believe offering people cark just because Cark Supplies Inc pay you to necessarily generates the most money.

Are you implying that we aren't and can get out of this deal?

It certainly would be interesting to get some hard figures of what the costs are. I would guess if someone in BIFF could take this on we might get an answer from the club.

 

[BladeHearts]

I never had a problem with any of the united shirts i had when they were Umbro.

I have Macron and Umbro kits as the Hearts strip is made by Umbro.

The difference in quality is night and day, with Umbro being the far superior product.

 

[Worksop_Blade]

Are you implying that we aren't and can get out of this deal?

It certainly would be interesting to get some hard figures of what the costs are. I would guess if someone in BIFF could take this on we might get an answer from the club.

I'd like to see the full sales figures for last season compared to a similar sized club with a quality driven brand.