Celebrating winning 0-0

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Watching Scotland celebrating a draw, just proved what a gulf there is between the two teams. Scotland were delighted not to get hammered by their local, far superior rivals. Sound familiar?
Waking up this morning and checking social media, I couldn't help but be pleased for them. I mean winning the tournament so early is s fantastic achievement. Credit where its due
 
Let's be fair to our Northern cousins, they had probably had to listen to weeks of England supporters confidently predicting a 3 or 4 goal dry humping. How none of their "boys" could stand up individually to any of Southgate's "players". Hearing and reading every pundit say that they could only see one result, etc etc etc.

That was certainly what I was hearing from mates and colleagues, and in every case I told them they were wrong. England don't produce teams that can steamroller opponents in tournaments, even those deemed as beneath us. Whilst the talent might exist in the squad, our managers normally prefer to indulge the egos of the big players, even when they underperform. It must be written into the FA's job description. The current manager also looks like he will resort to negative tactics by default. Time will tell on that I suppose, so prove me wrong Mr S.

All of those predicting a comfortable English win forgot that in the right conditions, a well organised and motivated team, who care about who they play for, will match a bunch of overpaid, uninspired, albeit technically superior superstars any day of the week. Last night was actually quite reminiscent of how we rattled a few PL big boys the season before last.

So bonny Scotland, drink hearty and enjoy your 0-0, because regardless of how important the point ends up being for either nation, your team was the one that impressed.
 
This is exactly the Billy big bollox talk from certain fans and the whole British media that irks so many people and gets universal dislike for England
The England football team continues to flatter to deceive at or on every occasion
While having good quality individuals in certain positions, the team as a whole is just not good enough but continues to believe it’s own press hype , more to do with the “ best “ league in the Money world
I wanted England to win v the Jocks
But England were shite
And Scotland avoided the drubbing they dreaded , and most thought they’d get
Now England to win midweek go through as group winners , be built up as world beaters and get destroyed by the press when some bloody jumped up foreigner beats them in quarter finals were I think they’ll lose
Because tactically there just not good enough
 
o bonny Scotland, drink hearty and enjoy your 0-0, because regardless of how important the point ends up being for either nation, your team was the one that impressed.
It this that puzzles me… the way within minutes the Scottish fans and that parts of the media pandering to them immediately describe the Scottish team as having played well and gaining a great result. What was impressive about them? They were as equally poor as England, it was a dreadful match.
 
It this that puzzles me… the way within minutes the Scottish fans and that parts of the media pandering to them immediately describe the Scottish team as having played well and gaining a great result. What was impressive about them? They were as equally poor as England, it was a dreadful match.
It’s the prejudice of low expectations I think. I can’t remember such an over exaggeration of a performance in a long time.
 
I thought we’d stick three past them at a canter. Fair play to them, they played really well and had some chances. I’m not sure if it was England not being very good or them playing above themselves.

I still expect us to get knocked out by the first proper test that we face. As usual.
 
It was a Derby match so anything can happen I know
, but you'll never see any of our lads kissing the flag
It's really not the English way is it,
I mean it smacks to much of bullying old man ......... :tumbleweed:
 
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Just like the last Tournament where England lost to Iceland we are clueless against a team that is well organised and plays with passion. No plan B or C. Southgate has done some good things like bringing in some younger players but at the end of the day he has no track record as a great football manager and it shows with our tactics. If only we had a Gareth Bale.
 



It this that puzzles me… the way within minutes the Scottish fans and that parts of the media pandering to them immediately describe the Scottish team as having played well and gaining a great result. What was impressive about them? They were as equally poor as England, it was a dreadful match.

They played as a team and out worked us. Not saying they were world beaters, but they certainly looked more up for it and at least gave a shit.
Agree that the match was pretty dull though.
 
Didnt see a gulf last night .england where so so boring.scots unlucky not to win
England reminded me of us last season. Players having no confidence to make a positive forward pass and taking the easy route out by passing back or sideways
 
Watching Scotland celebrating a draw, just proved what a gulf there is between the two teams. Scotland were delighted not to get hammered by their local, far superior rivals. Sound familiar?

I’m not sure where you’ve been the last 10-20 years but the Scotland national team has gone downhill.
There is now a large gap between the 2 traditional rivals which will probably never close.
Its been discussed over the years on Talksport how Scotland never produces any young talent or top players anymore.

So it’s natural to expect Scotland to celebrate a 0-0 draw at Wembley.

It’s like the Sheffield Derby 3 years ago. We were hot favourites and everyone expected a thrashing.
Wednesday put everyone in defence and battled for a 0-0 draw.

The England- Scotland game was different. It was a pretty even game with Scotland probably just about edging it. Think a draw was a fair result.
 
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Let's be fair to our Northern cousins, they had probably had to listen to weeks of England supporters confidently predicting a 3 or 4 goal dry humping. How none of their "boys" could stand up individually to any of Southgate's "players". Hearing and reading every pundit say that they could only see one result, etc etc etc.

That was certainly what I was hearing from mates and colleagues, and in every case I told them they were wrong. England don't produce teams that can steamroller opponents in tournaments, even those deemed as beneath us. Whilst the talent might exist in the squad, our managers normally prefer to indulge the egos of the big players, even when they underperform. It must be written into the FA's job description. The current manager also looks like he will resort to negative tactics by default. Time will tell on that I suppose, so prove me wrong Mr S.

All of those predicting a comfortable English win forgot that in the right conditions, a well organised and motivated team, who care about who they play for, will match a bunch of overpaid, uninspired, albeit technically superior superstars any day of the week. Last night was actually quite reminiscent of how we rattled a few PL big boys the season before last.

So bonny Scotland, drink hearty and enjoy your 0-0, because regardless of how important the point ends up being for either nation, your team was the one that impressed.
They weren’t listening to me then, with the players available we should be looking at 3 or 4 but the manager and mindset we have …….
 
Scotland were organised, disciplined and actually dangerous at times when they got the ball into advanced areas. In contrast to England who were lethargic, uninspired and outside the first 10 minutes toothless.

It wasn’t a game for the football purist but that Scottish performance was planned and well thought out. They denied England the space to operate in behind. They played with energy through the middle cutting off passing lanes forcing England to try and play wide in a side with no natural wingers and when they had the ball adams and dykes were effective if not pretty. With better finishing they could’ve pinched it but they had an actual game plan.

Tactically England were a shambles and were largely relying on a moment of magic from one of the forward players or a set piece to open up the game. When it didn’t come all impetus dropped out of the side and it became a game of keep ball for large spells without any penetration. Grant Hanley must have been thanking his lucky stars as a mediocre to poor club centrehalf that’s just spent 90 minutes at an international tournament watching the whole game played in front of him. England didn’t test Scotland at all after the first 10 minutes.
 
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It’s the prejudice of low expectations I think. I can’t remember such an over exaggeration of a performance in a long time.
England’s win v Croatia on BBC ,
Lampard -Shearer-Linekar
Describing the performance for back to front as outstanding
We all watched the game how many thought it was outstanding
Not fucking me cheering for my country
 
It this that puzzles me… the way within minutes the Scottish fans and that parts of the media pandering to them immediately describe the Scottish team as having played well and gaining a great result. What was impressive about them? They were as equally poor as England, it was a dreadful match.
They expected a pasting Hilly
We expected to give em a pasting as well
It doesn’t matter now if they get stuffed in next game ,
Da English di na beat us
I get it when watching the egg ball off my Irish mates , I want to fucking drive em into the ground just to shut em up for not being even able to beat
Us ( the Irish )
We should with our players have beaten em even Brady off Irish tv picked us to win
But I switched it off an hour in ( like Croatia game )
England’s tactics suck
 
Watching Scotland celebrating a draw, just proved what a gulf there is between the two teams. Scotland were delighted not to get hammered by their local, far superior rivals. Sound familiar?
The only similarity was the over the top reaction of the fans. For it to be more similar, the Scots would have had to have had players jailed for match-fixing, sacked their manager on Christmas Eve, not had a safety certificate in their stadium and had a deluded fanbase that thinks their country is MASSIVE on the international stage.
 
I thought we’d stick three past them at a canter. Fair play to them, they played really well and had some chances. I’m not sure if it was England not being very good or them playing above themselves.

I still expect us to get knocked out by the first proper test that we face. As usual.
Southgate was more interested in not losing hense the cautious team selection and tactics.
 
England’s win v Croatia on BBC ,
Lampard -Shearer-Linekar
Describing the performance for back to front as outstanding
We all watched the game how many thought it was outstanding
Not fucking me cheering for my country
I agree the Croatia result was overstated, however not on the same planet as the Scotland platitudes.
 
Scots played well, deserved the point and possibly more.

We were what we always are and always will be, bang average.

Don't blame them celebrating, they are likely to be punching above their weight and when they do get beat will go down fighting.

Whereas when we get knocked out we will look like a spoilt kid who has been grounded from his PlayStation.

Fight? We don't fucking know the meaning of the word.
 



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