CONFIRMED Aaron Ramsdale sold to Arsenal

[BrianBadonde]

Sell Rammers for £35 Mill bring in Verrips is outstanding business

From the front page of: "Todays bad takes"

How many times have you actually seen Verrips play?

"He did well at Emmen" I hear you say.
The bottom half of the Eredivisie and the Championship are completely different levels.

You haven't got a fucking clue if Verrips is good. Nor have I. And I'm certainly not willing to ruin our best chance at promotion for 15 years by sticking an unknown quantity in goal.

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

Heard him on RS this morning,he sounded distraught at missing out on the pub table big screen booking he had with family/friends,says he's gotta watch it from the bench at Wembley now,then he either started giggling or weeping it was hard to tell which.

 

[Yogi]

The question mark over verrips being able to step in to be our number one in case of ramsdale leaving or is injured is simply he didn’t come close to even being second choice whilst he was here and that clearly isn’t due to ability. If he wasn’t settled here before then there’s no guarantee he’d be able to settle in the future. We should be looking to maximise verrips value and sell him back to Holland or Belgium.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

How would the “times” know he is interested, did they just nip into the teams hotel for a chat, phone him up between training sessions or send him a text. Some of the crap that gets reported is a joke, yes sometimes agents plot moves and salary increases but only 2/3 days ago did Ramsdale commit himself to us for this season at least; saying that he wanted to help us back into the premiership.

Agents call newspapers to get stories out, drum up interest in their clients & drive up prices.

 

[Jimmy Fleck]

Really fucking boils my blood when I see arsenal fans saying stuff like ‘no ambition signing’ just because he was relegated with us- a young English goalkeeper that has kept the score line down for us many times last season and has just been called into the England squad, yes... very unambitious.

 

[BlairBlade]

Really fucking boils my blood when I see arsenal fans saying stuff like ‘no ambition signing’ just because he was relegated with us- a young English goalkeeper that has kept the score line down for us many times last season and has just been called into the England squad, yes... very unambitious.

I agree, but really who gives a fuck what those arse fans think?
I doubt Arsenal have any intention of paying what we want, or what we think both are worth, on the basis that the reports are correct that they want Ramsdale and Berge.
As they are apparently in for both of them, and serious (? really, WTF does that mean?), then we should either:-
(a) hold on to both of them; or
(b) demand £65 million+ (as a minimum for both - assuming Verrips is good enough to step-in to Ramsdale's shoes).

 

[chesblade]

Arsenal appear to be in for every player if you read papers, looks like they are buying a full side

 

[Belvedere Blade]

Sheffield United could well lose Aaron Ramsdale this summer with Arsenal increasingly confident of landing the goalkeeper’s signature, a source has exclusively revealed to Football League World.

The Sun revealed yesterday that Sheffield United were fielding interest from Arsenal in their goalkeeper, who caught the eye despite the Blades’ relegation from the Premier League last season.

A source has revealed to Football League World that Arsenal are increasingly confident of getting a deal for the 23-year-old done this summer, with people close to the club believing that the transfer will eventually happen.

FLW

 

[bertieblade]

Agents call newspapers to get stories out, drum up interest in their clients & drive up prices.

Fully aware of that but the point I am
Making us that only a matter of days before did the player himself commit himself to us and the new management team for at least the next season, subsequently the quote in the times is totally unsubstantiated

 

[bongleblade]

We need £40m allegedly.. let's say that's Egan + either Rammers/Berge.

Now let's say Berge and Rammers are valued the same thereabouts in money terms

Who would sell? Keeping in mind who's had the most impact...

For me it's selling Berge every time. AR is a young English international GK... potential for huge £££ after a great season at our level.

Saying that, if it was Rammers, it wouldn't be the end of the world, a few great options in Verrips and Betinelli as backup (free transfer GK played under SJ at Fulham)

 

[LudlamBlade]

From the front page of: "Todays bad takes"

How many times have you actually seen Verrips play?

"He did well at Emmen" I hear you say.
The bottom half of the Eredivisie and the Championship are completely different levels.

You haven't got a fucking clue if Verrips is good. Nor have I. And I'm certainly not willing to ruin our best chance at promotion for 15 years by sticking an unknown quantity in goal.

Whether we sell Rammers or not, Verrips is good enough Bri, I assure you!

Going back to what I said a few days ago about having seen a fair bit of him last season, I certainly feel he's good enough based on what I've seen.

Not directly advocating selling AR and getting MV in but just saying, as someone who's seen him play a decent amount of times, Verrips is no mug!

 

[SouthportBlade]

On something of a tangent... recent 'interest' whether legitimate or media led in Berge, Ramsdale, Mcburnie and even Bogle gives some credence to the Fees vs Wages debate that's rumbled on over the last year - at least from a fiscal perspective... What would have yielded better results on the pitch remains to be seen!

Not saying its full vindication, but signing players on more modest wages (even if higher fees) with potential to improve looks a reasonably prudent move.

These are necessary completely accurate examples in terms of our targets, but designed to back up the general point.

Ramsdale vs Foster, a comparatively huge initial outlay vs higher wages. Fast forward 12 months, and there's potential to see a 7 figure profit on Ramsdale, versus sunk costs on Foster.

Same could apply to Mcburnie vs Deeney or Welbeck or maybe Berge vs someone like Lallana or Fraser

 

[Nah den]

Really fucking boils my blood when I see arsenal fans saying stuff like ‘no ambition signing’ just because he was relegated with us- a young English goalkeeper that has kept the score line down for us many times last season and has just been called into the England squad, yes... very unambitious.

I saw quotes from Wolves fans when they were linked, near suicidal! I guess for none Blades fans the memory of the first half of his season is front of mind, and either they didn't see the good saves he produced later on or they aren't enough to change their minds on his abilities.

 

[AdamSufc1997]

Honestly if he wants to go let him go no problem with that. The problem is letting him go for cheap 30m+ should be reasonable

 

[ancientblade]

if both berge and ramsdale want to go and who could blame them if they were getting say 4 times the salary here i dont think we can stop them what we must say to arsenal is its 60m minimum for the pair or they stay at the lane and if they do go that should enable us to hold on to egan plus having cash to spend on recruitment in other areas

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Fully aware of that but the point I am
Making us that only a matter of days before did the player himself commit himself to us and the new management team for at least the next season, subsequently the quote in the times is totally unsubstantiated

If Arsenal come knocking, he'll want out.

 

[Revolution]

On something of a tangent... recent 'interest' whether legitimate or media led in Berge, Ramsdale, Mcburnie and even Bogle gives some credence to the Fees vs Wages debate that's rumbled on over the last year - at least from a fiscal perspective... What would have yielded better results on the pitch remains to be seen!

Not saying its full vindication, but signing players on more modest wages (even if higher fees) with potential to improve looks a reasonably prudent move.

These are necessary completely accurate examples in terms of our targets, but designed to back up the general point.

Ramsdale vs Foster, a comparatively huge initial outlay vs higher wages. Fast forward 12 months, and there's potential to see a 7 figure profit on Ramsdale, versus sunk costs on Foster.

Same could apply to Mcburnie vs Deeney or Welbeck or maybe Berge vs someone like Lallana or Fraser

The elephant in the room with this argument is that this strategy contributed to our relegation.

 

[Lowen]

To invest in a young player not 100% ready for the premier league just to sell him after one season and not reaping the rewards of his development would be criminal. It has to be silly money.

 

[Champagneblade]

The elephant in the room with this argument is that this strategy contributed to our relegation.

As John Maynard Keynes once said 'in the long term, we're all dead."

I am attracted to the idea of having Ramsdale as a life long Blade, nailing the spot like our very own Buffon.

Bit I also think "who am I kidding?"

Football is so incredibly short term, especially nowadays.

Even with our recent success, we're regularly bringing in 8-10 players each summer. Gone are the days of the Liverpool manager being asked for the team and him responding "same as last season".

I'd like to not have the seasonal churn but to be in that position you have to be relatively successful like Burnley have been.

Going down, we'll have a cash hole to fill, we'll have some players who feel they can retain their PL wages by moving and shouldn't have to endure their contracts dropping their salary and we'll have others we want to move on because they aren't what we want any more.

Ironically the time to add modestly was probably last summer but we really cocked that up.

I'll accept the notion of Captain Hindsight on this one but as few as 3 directly into the team and nothing else might have served us better with lower fees and higher individual wages perhaps.

Rammers for up to 18.5m might have high potential but for immediate needs, Danny Ward from Leicester would probably have been tempted for a much lower fee given his age and he's clearly far from past it. A first team gig at a team finishing 9th only a few places below his current club, would have been hard to turn down. Plus he'd get a great reception having already pissed on Wednesday's bonfire whilst on loan at Huddersfield.

Tackling the elephant in the room and getting a proper Lundstram replacement and getting also a full time O'Connell replacement would have been more judicious than the bits and bobs we did and of course the not so bitty 23m on Brewster. If we'd stopped at 3 of that nature, no issue here. It might have meant keeping Freeman and Osborn as back ups. I could have lived with that. Even without Brewster we had 5 strikers on the books. Chris tried to do too much and ended up achieving very little.

 

[Old Programme seller]

I’d love to know how we have a £40 million hole in our budget £17 million profit last season players wages reduced by relegation clause and £40 million parachute payment for first year plus we’ve off loaded players.

 

[Balham]

I’d love to know how we have a £40 million hole in our budget £17 million profit last season players wages reduced by relegation clause and £40 million parachute payment for first year plus we’ve off loaded players.

Because there's been a season in the middle with no commercial income, no matchday income and a greatly increased wage bill. If we lost less than £30m in the 20/21 season I'll be amazed.

 

[tincan]

But when Rammers scores the winning penalty in the Euro final against the Germans, he'll be worth a bit more.......

 

[Bladesman]

Really fucking boils my blood when I see arsenal fans saying stuff like ‘no ambition signing’ just because he was relegated with us- a young English goalkeeper that has kept the score line down for us many times last season and has just been called into the England squad, yes... very unambitious.

That is why they need stuffing with a fucking pineapple. Arsenal have one of the most entitled fucking fanbases in the country.

 

[BlairBlade]

I read that Arsenal are not happy with our valuation of Ramsdale, and presumably Berge.
In that case sod off.
Fingers crossed as McCabe is long gone, except for hanging around and trying to make as big a nuisance as possible on the corners of the ground, we are now more grown up and will look after our interests instead of the old short-terminisme and selling everyone at an undervalue.
Anyway, fingers crossed.

 

[BrianBadonde]

If Arsenal come knocking, he'll want out.

You hope

 

[ancientblade]

I read that Arsenal are not happy with our valuation of Ramsdale, and presumably Berge.
In that case sod off.
Fingers crossed as McCabe is long gone, except for hanging around and trying to make as big a nuisance as possible on the corners of the ground, we are now more grown up and will look after our interests instead of the old short-terminisme and selling everyone at an undervalue.
Anyway, fingers crossed.

exactly they meet our valuation or they stay here and help us get straight back up at the first attempt

 

[Yogi]

exactly they meet our valuation or they stay here and help us get straight back up at the first attempt

Yeah knock down price summer is next summer if we don’t go up as we’d be a year closer to parachute payments needing and you’d expect players to be more forceful in seeking a move but this year uniteds negotiating position is pretty strong.

 

[BerksBlade]

I read that Arsenal are not happy with our valuation of Ramsdale, and presumably Berge.
In that case sod off.
Fingers crossed as McCabe is long gone, except for hanging around and trying to make as big a nuisance as possible on the corners of the ground, we are now more grown up and will look after our interests instead of the old short-terminisme and selling everyone at an undervalue.
Anyway, fingers crossed.

Absolutely. Put up or shut up.
Arsenal are a shambles at the moment. Martinez did well when Leno was injured, but someone decided they could offload him. Martinez continuing to do well at Villa whilst Leno is now making mistakes. They sold the wrong keeper.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

You hope

Of course not. I hope he's a very solid keeper for our promotion push next season, but he'd be mad to turn down Arsenal.

 

[blades14]

If Arsenal come knocking, he'll want out.

i disagree, Arsenal have been in decline for about 5 years now and i cant see it getting any better for them anytime soon