Standing at the Lane!!!!!

[bramptonblade]

How many of us would welcome back the chance to stand on the Kop in a safe standing area. Looks like it could happen!!!!!! :thumbup:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/mar/22/terracing-government-reintroduce-standing

 

[Torrix1889]

Well there's vast amounts of people standing at grounds now anyway, (not so much at BDTBL) but watch any game on Sky and there are very few actually sat down in certain areas.

Standing in front of and behind setas is a recipe for broken legs and far more dangerous than traditional terraces so it makes sense to bring them back.

 

[beechblade]

I never experienced terracing (well if I did I was too young to remember) so can't comment on the whole experience of it, but I don't see many clubs in the championship and above (and some of the plusher lower league clubs) reverting back to terracing, it takes away from clubs marketing the grounds out for other events.

 

[FleaPitBlade]

Funny isn’t it that all those opposed were shouting about the safety issues. Ze Germans then blew that argument out of the water so they've changed tact and are going to stop it on issues of crowd control.

There will always be a reason for standing not be re-introduced, wrongly in my view, because nobody with the power to make it happen will stick their head over the parapet. I wouldn’t want to be the man that signs that particular piece of legislature, the scope for repercussion is immense! Only needs somebody to slip and break an ankle and he’d be out of a job before the ambulance gets to hospital.

 

[Muttley]

Bring it back!!!!!! NOW!!!!

It's thanks to our very own South Yorks police and our friends in S6 that we had to abolish terracing in the first place.

 

[Ted Danson]

Yes bring back standing, there'd be a much better atmosphere and I wouldnt come home every saturday with bruises on my knees. It could also increase capacity and bring in more revenue for the club. It was much better in the good old days

 

[Selly]

Bring it back!!!!!! NOW!!!!

It's thanks to our very own South Yorks police and our friends in S6 that we had to abolish terracing in the first place.

 

[madeinsheffield]

In the words of Kevin Keegan "I would love it, love it!"

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

Did you notice the "seats" in the picture of a standing area?

I'm all for it

 

[SwissBlade]

I used to stand and I enjoyed it, but the safety factor is really not there. You only need to look at the Champions League Final in Athens when Liverpool fans turned up without tickets, the authorities at the stadium panicked and opened the gates, resulting in hundreds of fans storming the ground. Fortunately the ground was all seater, so ticketless fans just took up seats in the ground, had this been a standing ground then the consequences would be different.

Having watched football in Germany, Italy and England, the argument for following the Germans doesn't wash with me. They are exceptionally well disciplined in the ground. I stood at 2nd tier 1 Union Berlin last season and whilst it was a real throw back to the standing days, the Germans don't surge, they celebrate on the same step of the terrace. For me this wouldn't work in England.

Germans can go on holiday to the so called 18-30 style resorts and enjoy themselves, the Brits can't.

I'm not suggesting that Germans are perfect, they have their problems too both within football and socially, but there is a different level of discipline and respect which we just don't have in the UK.

 

[sothall blade]

Bring it back!!!!!! NOW!!!!

It's thanks to our very own South Yorks police and our friends in S6 that we had to abolish terracing in the first place.

friends in s6 ?

 

[Selly]

You only need to look at the Champions League Final in Athens when Liverpool fans turned up without tickets, the authorities at the stadium panicked and opened the gates, resulting in hundreds of fans storming the ground.

Now where have i heard that before....

Fortunately the ground was all seater, so ticketless fans just took up seats in the ground, had this been a standing ground then the consequences would be different.

And what about the fans who had tickets for those seats. If it was just a few hundred, I doubt the rest of the people standing would have made a blind bit of difference.

 

[2ndtenorblade]

Germans can go on holiday to the so called 18-30 style resorts and enjoy themselves, the Brits can't.

I'm not suggesting that Germans are perfect, they have their problems too both within football and socially, but there is a different level of discipline and respect which we just don't have in the UK.

A very good point. Reminds me of a time spent at last years Stuttgarter Frühlingsfest, I was with my son having a quiet mid-afternoon beer in the festival grounds. There was a party of school leavers at a nearby table and they were having a good (albeit noisey) time, no trouble, no disrespect, just a damn good time. My son said if "this was England everyone would be pissed and fighting".

 

[Ted Danson]

Just dont let scousers stand. Simple

 

[norfolkblade]

I used to stand and I enjoyed it, but the safety factor is really not there. You only need to look at the Champions League Final in Athens when Liverpool fans turned up without tickets, the authorities at the stadium panicked and opened the gates, resulting in hundreds of fans storming the ground. Fortunately the ground was all seater, so ticketless fans just took up seats in the ground, had this been a standing ground then the consequences would be different.

Don't they ever learn?

 

[SwissBlade]

Don't they ever learn?

Clearly not... and I bet some of these would've been wanting "justice for the 96"....

Its not just scousers though is it, us British just don't know how to behave. Either at home or abroad.

 

[norfolkblade]

Clearly not... and I bet some of these would've been wanting "justice for the 96"....

Its not just scousers though is it, us British just don't know how to behave. Either at home or abroad.

You're probably right there...though I wouldn't say "us British", it's just unfortunate that some idiots mean we are all tarred with the same brush, but that applies to any race/nationailty/ethnicity in the world I suppose!

 

[Kenilworth]

All for having an area where there is an option for standing. About time too.
Should be affordable and safe - no reason it cannot be safe.

Steve Curry was on TalkBLX this morning spouting on about keeping stadia all seater given that he witnessed both H'Bro 89 and Hysel. Standing had nothing to do with those disasters. One was due to some dopey cop who opened the central gates, compounded by crowd control barriers/cages at the front of the stand so people at the front got crushed. The other one was down to Liverpool Hoolies and a stadium that would not have got a safety certificate in the Northern Counties league - never mind a European cup final.

 

[beightonblade]

sorry but no .......

 

[SwissBlade]

You're probably right there...though I wouldn't say "us British", it's just unfortunate that some idiots mean we are all tarred with the same brush, but that applies to any race/nationailty/ethnicity in the world I suppose!

Were an Island Race Norfolk! Whilst we can't all be tarred with the same brush, the desire to get bladdered, eat curry and fight can never be removed from a corner of our brains, we'ved evolved from Hunter gatherers to heathens.

 

[SotonBlade]

Yes bring back standing, there'd be a much better atmosphere and I wouldnt come home every saturday with bruises on my knees. It could also increase capacity and bring in more revenue for the club. It was much better in the good old days

Surely though, if people are merely standing, the club would have to reduce ticket prices??

 

[davidpinder]

Has anyone actually read the article???
The sports minister, Hugh Robertson, has said the government will consider the possibility of reintroducing standing areas at top-level football matches,

That clearly is not us then.

 

[2ndtenorblade]

You're probably right there...though I wouldn't say "us British", it's just unfortunate that some idiots mean we are all tarred with the same brush, but that applies to any race/nationailty/ethnicity in the world I suppose!

I have been to the last two Euros and it was quite plain that most (?all) fans of other countries are capable of having a few beers and a good time (Denmark, Sweden and Czech Rep. spring immediately to mind). I was in Lisbon and Coimbra when England played in Portugal and a large minority of England fans clearly does not.

While I'm on my high horse, why do they have to insert "no surrender" into our national anthem?

 

[dkc Blade]

Just look at the facts. How many people stood up and watched a football match in the UK over a hundred years? How many suffered serious injuries or were crushed to death? This is one of those cases where the risk is generally miniscule, but a high profile incident led to an overreaction on the part of the authorities. We have seen such reactions in other areas, like banning a drug because of a single death, or banning forks and spoons on planes.

It's part and parcel of the world we live in, where we're not trusted to open a train window or let our kids play on a roundabout.


A safe standing area would work at the top of the kop but it would be a major undertaking. Not only would terracing have to be installed, but a method would be needed of restricting the terrace's capacity. People would have to show tickets to get in and out.

 

[oldblade]

You're probably right there...though I wouldn't say "us British", it's just unfortunate that some idiots mean we are all tarred with the same brush, but that applies to any race/nationailty/ethnicity in the world I suppose!

It's not just some idiots though is it. It might be a minority, but it's still quite a large number of people. And it is the British who are worst. The behaviour and lack of respect show to others by many Brits abroad is embarrassing.

But many of those guilty of such behaviour are probably the first to try and blame all and sundry (except for themselves of course) when things go wrong. It's the police's fault, the FA's fault, the club's fault, the local authority's fault, etc etc.

 

[borg elite]

That's thanks largely to the closely spaced barriers they have at German grounds employed to prevent surging. Even if we're more likely to surge these closely spaced barriers would prevent it. They allow no more than two rows of people inbetween barriers.

Having watched football in Germany, Italy and England, the argument for following the Germans doesn't wash with me. They are exceptionally well disciplined in the ground. I stood at 2nd tier 1 Union Berlin last season and whilst it was a real throw back to the standing days, the Germans don't surge, they celebrate on the same step of the terrace. For me this wouldn't work in

 

[Deleted member 1486]

It's fine to blame SYP and S6, just don't mention the scousers, I REPEAT; DON'T MENTION THE SCOUSERS. none of them were pissed up, pushing, trying to force their way into the ground without a ticket and not a single one of them had consumed so much as wine gum prior to said match. Lession no1 (in life, not just football): Scousers are never the perpetrators of trouble, just victims. So we should all STFU and not discuss or blame them in anyway.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

OK when yer 18 but standing at Shrewsbury a few years ago nearly bloody killed me.

 

[Ted Danson]

Surely though, if people are merely standing, the club would have to reduce ticket prices??

yeah right, reduce ticket prices, that'll be the day. I'd be happy paying what I am now to stand on the kop

 

[BarcaBlade]

I'm never going to sit at a game until my legs are too old to hold me up. And if that means not going to a Blades game until we are in League 1, then so be it. See you next season.
The 'reasons' for banning standing areas given are not the truth of the matter. It's not to do with safety.
Those quotes about more women and children going to games make me want to puke. Disingenuous.
If you believe Hugh Robertson when he says they will be considered, you're a mug. There will be a pretense of considering so that they can say they have done so and then refuse to look into it again until 2015.
The guardian poll shows 77% in favour (even though that will be skewed because people like myself who are passionate terrace-supporters are more likely to vote), but even if the real figure IS around 77%, it's not likely to change much.
Andy Holt of our own SYPD and spokesperson for the association of plods has pretty much stated that the police will never back the move, and governments are only willing to say they'll 'consider it' and take advice from the plod...they are even wasting your money going through the pretense of considering it, the dirty chuffs.

I'm keeping my money in my pocket unless somebody sells me a product I want to buy. Viva real football!!