Warnock's Cunning Plan? - Disgraceful article

[Sothall_Blade]

http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/on-this-day-in-history-march-16-

Did you know? On this day in history in 2002 Neil Warnock and Sheffield United tried to cheat.

It's a FACT apparently, listed alongside other indisputable facts about Garth Crooks scoring for Spurs against Liverpool and Ernie Blenkinsop being sold to Liverpool by Wednesday.

No mention of the actual FACTS that Ullathorne and Brown were genuinely injured and neither played again that season. Or that it was a meaningless result for us and there was no point trying to get the match abandoned and replayed. Or that Warnock was found not guilty of the charges made against him and the £10K fine was for the actions of Santos and Suffo not Warnock.

No, Gary Megson said we were trying to cheat at the time and therefore it must be true. FACT!

 

[JJ Sefton]

I hope Warnock sues the bastards.

 

[Vancouver]

Twatty Megson was guilty of Slander at the time and this 'website' is now guilty of libel. Both actions are in clear contravention of the law; even someone in articles could win this case.

 

[Liaminho9]

FourFourTwo also claimed this a few months ago, in a top ten of how to stop yourselves from losing, think we came third, with Maradona's 'hand of god' winning it.

 

[Robbie]

FourFourTwo also claimed this a few months ago, in a top ten of how to stop yourselves from losing, think we came third, with Maradona's 'hand of god' winning it.

Yet we lost 3-0.... hmmmm

 

[lenners]

Hmmm, and you wonder why we have a footballing culture problem at the Lane.
What is it, 10 sent off this season and fans falling over themselves to defend what happened nearly a decade ago.
Go figure...

 

[Balham]

Hmmm, and you wonder why we have a footballing culture problem at the Lane.
What is it, 10 sent off this season and fans falling over themselves to defend what happened nearly a decade ago.
Go figure...

Nobody is condoning what happened in 2002. However, they are rightly up in arms that the article has printed as fact the view that we cheated.

Our discipline at times this season has been unacceptably poor and has undoubtedly added to the failure this season has turned into.

 

[davidpinder]

And you wondered why we are treated harshly when reading articles like that. If a neutral reads that were cheats nothing less. Wonder if saturdays ref will have read it.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Twatty Megson was guilty of Slander at the time and this 'website' is now guilty of libel. Both actions are in clear contravention of the law; even someone in articles could win this case.

Where's Darren?

If it is so clear cut then why can't he not sue on behalf of everyone who has read the article on here and is offended with the proceeds going into Foxy and Linz's [note the spelling] pot to run the site?

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http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/on-this-day-in-history-march-16-

Did you know? On this day in history in 2002 Neil Warnock and Sheffield United tried to cheat.

It's a FACT apparently, listed alongside other indisputable facts about Garth Crooks scoring for Spurs against Liverpool and Ernie Blenkinsop being sold to Liverpool by Wednesday.

No mention of the actual FACTS that Ullathorne and Brown were genuinely injured and neither played again that season. Or that it was a meaningless result for us and there was no point trying to get the match abandoned and replayed. Or that Warnock was found not guilty of the charges made against him and the £10K fine was for the actions of Santos and Suffo not Warnock.

No, Gary Megson said we were trying to cheat at the time and therefore it must be true. FACT!

What goes around comes around. Imagine having to manage the worst ever club ever! Hardly a reward.

 

[puppet]

I think we got off lightly that day

 

[2ndtenorblade]

I think we got off lightly that day

I would be interested to know exactly what McInnes said to Patrick Suffo, was Megson telling lies to cover this up?

 

[sothall blade]

I would be interested to know exactly what McInnes said to Patrick Suffo, was Megson telling lies to cover this up?

hmmm thats always intrigued me,got to be some sort of rascist comment towards suffo

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gutter press not stating all the facts, ah well tomorrows chip paper

 

[Revolution]

I've always been curious as to why Warnock brought Santos on when Santos had made it known prior to the game via a press interview that he was going to nail Johnson if he got the chance. Not Warnock's brightest move.

As for defamation, I'm no expert, but one thing Warnock would have to prove is that the article lowers his reputation in the eyes of the public, which would no doubt provide some amusement.

 

[Silent Blade]

I think we got off lightly that day

I fully agree

 

[sothall blade]

i was very surprised we did,nt get a big points reduction,mind this did happen before the tevez affair

 

[Silent Blade]

I've always been curious as to why Warnock brought Santos on when Santos had made it known prior to the game via a press interview that he was going to nail Johnson if he got the chance. Not Warnock's brightest move.

I remember him saying the comments about playing Santos on the eve of the match and I was worried. after Santos and Suffo sending offs, I remembered NW's comments so I left the ground (with my son) in disgust immediately

 

[JJ Sefton]

I remember him saying the comments about playing Santos on the eve of the match and I was worried. after Santos and Suffo sending offs, I remembered NW's comments so I left the ground (with my son) in disgust immediately

So Warnock was to blame for playing Santos but Megson bears no blame at all for playing Johnson?

 

[sothall blade]

So Warnock was to blame for playing Santos but Megson bears no blame at all for playing Johnson?

all the problems in the world are down to sheffield utd

 

[JJ Sefton]

all the problems in the world are down to sheffield utd

It certainly seems that way.

 

[bricktop]

As a deliberate attempt to break his opponents legs, i still rate George Santos's tackle as the finest ever seen. 14 stones of angry Frenchman, flying in at high speed straight with both feet homing in with deadly accuracy on his opponents ankles.

I can see why Santos was so angry, as the season before Andy Johnson had smashed him with a disgraceful elbow laced with intent that nearly blinded him, and got away scot free, so when the time came for revenge who can blame him for taking the chance?

 

[puppet]

As a deliberate attempt to break his opponents legs, i still rate George Santos's tackle as the finest ever seen. 14 stones of angry Frenchman, flying in at high speed straight with both feet homing in with deadly accuracy on his opponents ankles.

I can see why Santos was so angry, as the season before Andy Johnson had smashed him with a disgraceful elbow laced with intent that nearly blinded him, and got away scot free, so when the time came for revenge who can blame him for taking the chance?

ill tell you who can blame him brownie - everybody. this is professional football we're talking about not the law of the jungle ffs.

 

[JJ Sefton]

As a deliberate attempt to break his opponents legs, i still rate George Santos's tackle as the finest ever seen. 14 stones of angry Frenchman, flying in at high speed straight with both feet homing in with deadly accuracy on his opponents ankles.

I can see why Santos was so angry, as the season before Andy Johnson had smashed him with a disgraceful elbow laced with intent that nearly blinded him, and got away scot free, so when the time came for revenge who can blame him for taking the chance?

Cant disagree although Id rather he'd done it in a pub car park and not on United's dollar. I just dont get why people will blame Warnock for playing Santos when Megson saw fit to play Johnson. Well, I do get it, they let their hatred of Warnock blind them to logic.

 

[Revolution]

I just dont get why people will blame Warnock for playing Santos when Megson saw fit to play Johnson.

Because Santos had announced he was going to deliberately injure Johnson. He should not have been allowed to take the field having said that.

 

[sothall blade]

As a deliberate attempt to break his opponents legs, i still rate George Santos's tackle as the finest ever seen. 14 stones of angry Frenchman, flying in at high speed straight with both feet homing in with deadly accuracy on his opponents ankles.

I can see why Santos was so angry, as the season before Andy Johnson had smashed him with a disgraceful elbow laced with intent that nearly blinded him, and got away scot free, so when the time came for revenge who can blame him for taking the chance?

santos only did exactly what roy keane did to haaland, i am not saying its right but,keane got his red card and fine,but carried on playing for fergie,he did not get bombed out niether does keanes foul keep getting dragged up every other week

 

[secretchief]

Cant disagree although Id rather he'd done it in a pub car park and not on United's dollar. I just dont get why people will blame Warnock for playing Santos when Megson saw fit to play Johnson. Well, I do get it, they let their hatred of Warnock blind them to logic.

The only 'logic' at work is that Santos publicised his deliberate and premeditated score-settling in the press and Johnson didn't, and had no score to settle.

 

[JJ Sefton]

Because Santos had announced he was going to deliberately injure Johnson. He should not have been allowed to take the field having said that.

Then maybe Megson and Warnock should have reached an agreement to leave the pair of them at home? Sad that they didnt, but Megson is just as much to blame as Warnock.

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The only 'logic' at work is that Santos publicised his deliberate and premeditated score-settling in the press and Johnson didn't, and had no score to settle.

True, Johnson had no score to settle. He'd got his in first by caving in the side of Santos' face.

 

[Revolution]

If Johnson had resolved to attack Santos, I'd see your point. But he didn't.

That doesn't make what Johnson did right. But he got away with it and we have to live with it.

Another issue is that Santos did not start the game and only came on when it was already lost. There was no need to inflame the situation.

 

[JJ Sefton]

Another issue is that Santos did not start the game and only came on when it was already lost. There was no need to inflame the situation.

Was it already lost? He came on with half an hour to go and only two goals and one man down. I know its a long time ago, but once upon a time United used to come back from deficits like that.

 

[Revolution]

The game was effectively lost given that they were far the better side, both on the day and over the course of the season to that point, we had 10 men, we were 2 down, and one of the players we had brought on had every intention of doing something that was going to get him sent off.

 

[Silent Blade]

So Warnock was to blame for playing Santos but Megson bears no blame at all for playing Johnson?

Johnson's elbow on Santos was a disgrace and I was disappointed that the FA didnt take action. Johnson then had moved to a different club and playing under a different manager. Neither Johnson or Megson made any sort of pre-match comments that could have inflamed the situation. NW was well aware of what Santos had said about being on the same field as Johnson the next time. NW should never have said the silly pre match comments. He had every right to pick Santos for the match. Had NW not made the stupid pre-match comments and Santos coming on and doing the same thing on Johnson, then I probably would have carried on watching the match (I know it is easy to say that) until probably with 10 minutes left when all is lost