How much has Adams cost us?

[Casper]

I'm not just talking about his contract - which wont be a badun seeing that we had to poach him. Wages for the 7 players hes signed must amount to 40 to 50k a week? I think the general rule of thumb for loans are you pay half the wages. Bent, Riise, Vokes must be on a decent screw. Lowery and Mattock probably a bit less, but still from prem. Then of course his 2 "star" permanent signings - cant even bring myself to type their names.

Releasing Briton, Reid and Bartley possibly saved us 25 - 30k a week. So thats 10-20k a week in extra wages alone.

Then of course there the crowds for next season. Ok, ok, we werent fantastic before he came, but by god we are truly shite now. The amount of people around me who left in disgust yesterday vowing not to return - and i dont mean for next season either - i mean they cant be arsed to use their season tickets this season!

We will be down to crowds of 14-16k next season. Adams must go NOW. We are down, we need to clear out and start building for next season. If supporters saw this happening perhaps they might be tempted to buy back into it. If all we see is Ale House Micky and his 11 donkeys "perform" for the rest of the season im afraid his tenure could have some serious long term implications. The guy hasnt got it, put him out of his misery, take our medicine and try to sort ourselves out for next season.

 

[sheffielder]

McCabe and Birch took 2 weeks to pick Micky. Do you think they will get it right if we started again?

 

[Torrix1889]

We've been shit all season, we'd be in the same position now if it was still Blackwell or Speed.

Don't get me wrong, I'm noit sticking up for Adams and for me he should go at the end of the season.

 

[sheffielder]

We've been shit all season, we'd be in the same position now if it was still Blackwell or Speed.

Don't get me wrong, I'm noit sticking up for Adams and for me he should go at the end of the season.

If we are going to get rid of him, your better off doing it now, let the new man in and see what he can make of this team before he starts next season. Better than giving the new man 2 months

 

[Casper]

Problem with keeping Adams now is the club is being slowly strangled to death. When i said some fans around me had had enough, i wasn't talking about the premiership bandwaggon jumpers, im talking about some blokes who have been going 40 odd years.

 

[sheffielder]

Unfortunately I am one of them Casper. I mislaid my season ticket card last night. whoops! I will be back next season but I have just can't take anymore at the moment.

 

[Casper]

Unfortunately I am one of them Casper. I mislaid my season ticket card last night. whoops! I will be back next season but I have just can't take anymore at the moment.

Thats the thing though mate, once you break the habit or get out of the routine, then you suddenly find there are other things to life. I've done that with away games, up to a couple of seasons ago i made at least 15 away games a season, and virtually all in my youth. Now i very rarely go away, i find i actually enjoy every other Saturday just relaxing.... you know, not trailing the length and breadth of the country.

 

[JohnDenver]

If we are going to get rid of him, your better off doing it now, let the new man in and see what he can make of this team before he starts next season. Better than giving the new man 2 months

Disagree. We keep him 'til the end of the season. No new manager should be tainted with this disaster. Then decide if Adams is the man.

Personally I wouldnt sack him. It just disguises the deeper causes of failure, and they lie upstairs.

 

[Yossarian]

One could ask how much, over the last 4 seasons, has McCabes decisions and actions cost us?

 

[Worksop II]

My expenditure during Micky's reign to date is 2 x £5 tickets for the Reading Game, I will have to learn from my mistakes ....

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

I still think McCabe overuled Birch on this appointment.

 

[blader]

What has this club become??

We have already had 4 managers this season, a new man comes in for 2 months and you want to get rid of him!!!

WHO DO YOU PEOPLE WANT??

OK, if we could get mourinho, lets sack micky on the spot and get him in. Sadly, that is not the case. Let's stick by the most experienced manager of the 4 we have had this year, and accept that no one could do any better. For f*cks sake, this clubs is becoming a shambles. The longevity of a manager for this season already stands at an average of about a month, and we want to get rid again??

Please guys, lets see some sense.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

What did I want?

I didn't want us to appoint distinctly average manager who plays direct football from league two simply because he is a Blade.
The experience you speak off seems to mainly be taking teams down and then bringing them back, or just leaving them in a pretty much similar position.
He's been a nothing man for a long time and plays unattractive football that obviously isn't that effective either.
There were many better alternatives available to the club even if we were looking to the lower leagues but McCabe wanted Adams.

 

[alcoblade]

If we are going to get rid of him, your better off doing it now, let the new man in and see what he can make of this team before he starts next season. Better than giving the new man 2 months

If I were going to sack him it would be at the end of the season. You can't force a reflection from a link of faeces, and the next manager will find the same. There's no point in staining the next manager with the disaster of this season. At least a fresh start in the summer might stimulate season ticket sales.

I'd give Adams a closed season and next season, though arguing that point is extremely difficult right now.

UTB

 

[sheffielder]

I wanted Micky but I now have major doubts with him now. 12 games in, where exactly is this win coming from. The team is getting worse and the confidence is fading. Micky is constantly contradicting himself and his choice of Cresswell as captain is almost sticking two fingers up at us, nevermind the players. I am sure many of us have been in dressing rooms before and a team environment. His choices and favouritism is causing too much upset everywhere in the club. Players need to be picked on form and the captain should be someone worthy of being in the 11. Personally I would play Ertl at CB till the end of the season and make him captain.

It's very easy for people to say we shouldn't sack him because it's not all his fault. He has made our position far worse than it ever was and I think the only way out of it is for him to be fairer with the players and give them some respect

 

[Oughti-blade]

Micky has got to go. Its obvious the players he has signed are not good enough and the players who are good enough (and yes we do have some) are just not interested in playing for there manager cos hes a bit of two hat. Big mistake by Mcabe appointing Adams just like Robson, but i think this mistake could cost us more in the long run. Roll on the summer!

 

[super_pig]

sorry but i dont' buy the bartley spin.. he is an apprentice reserve team player at arsenal..he cant be on that much.. plus arsenal pay half his wages anyway.. anyone would think he was 'our' player

 

[chipsncake]

Disagree. We keep him 'til the end of the season. No new manager should be tainted with this disaster. Then decide if Adams is the man.

Personally I wouldnt sack him. It just disguises the deeper causes of failure, and they lie upstairs.

I doubt anyone would ever argue where the blame lies, even McCabe himself will now be questioning his own ability to get anything right on footballing matters. However, Adams is clearly so much out of his depth that to hang on to him any longer does no one any favours. We are down, and planning for next season should begin now in order to give our next manager as long as possible to do the necesary wheeling and dealing.

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I still think McCabe overuled Birch on this appointment.

You're right, he did.

 

[JohnDenver]

I doubt anyone would ever argue where the blame lies, even McCabe himself will now be questioning his own ability to get anything right on footballing matters. However, Adams is clearly so much out of his depth that to hang on to him any longer does no one any favours. We are down, and planning for next season should begin now in order to give our next manager as long as possible to do the necesary wheeling and dealing.

Even if I shared your opinion of Adams, I don't see the point in sacking him until the end of the season. Maybe sound out a new man, but no more. He couldn't sign anyone, and there's not much point in him being given time for assessing the current lot. So few players, so little quality....

 

[cahill]

For christ sake give Adams a chance he may do well next season. Strewth. Personally i think we parted with Warnock and probably Robson too early. Mcabe did right to give Blackwell a decent run to prove his worth but listened to fan pressure to sack him and put us into this mess. The popular choice for KBs replacement was Speed and Mcabe made the mistake of playing to the gallery and appointing him. I think Adams will come good but he at least needs a half of next season. The poorest appointment for me this season was Speed, a man who clearly wasn't up for a fight, was probably spolit by being successful as a player so that when the going got tough he'd no inner reserves of strength to call on. Adams inherited this shite give him a chance. If he blobs next season get rid at Xmas

 

[Jehovah]

We've been shit all season, we'd be in the same position now if it was still Blackwell or Speed.

Don't get me wrong, I'm noit sticking up for Adams and for me he should go at the end of the season.

Bollox. We would be nowhere near where we are now under Blackwell. You can say what you want but he knew how to get results against shit teams.

 

[lenners]

Adams has been a disaster, way above and beyond anything I imagined.
I at least thought he'd get them organised and playing with some guts but the opposite has been true.
If he can't give you that, he frankly gives you nothing.
The subbing decisions yesterday were gobsmacking in their futility and stupidity.
The cost will be somewhere between £5m and £10m for relegation.

 

[Yossarian]

If he'd been given the backing of the board, the freedom to sign and keep whoever he wanted, I'd say that a lot of it is his fault. But I just don't believe he's been given any of that.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

Adams has been a disaster, way above and beyond anything I imagined.
I at least thought he'd get them organised and playing with some guts but the opposite has been true.
If he can't give you that, he frankly gives you nothing.
The subbing decisions yesterday were gobsmacking in their futility and stupidity.
The cost will be somewhere between £5m and £10m for relegation.

Agreed, the very least i thought he'd instil some passion in the squad, but he's not even done that. It's embarrassing for the club to have this attrition rate of managers, but it really is time to get rid.

 

[alcoblade]

Agreed, the very least i thought he'd instil some passion in the squad, but he's not even done that. It's embarrassing for the club to have this attrition rate of managers, but it really is time to get rid.

To be fair to the club here, they've only sacked one manager this year. Other than Robson, we've stuck by them.

Personally, I'd give Adams the benefit of the doubt. I wanted him (after SOD) and I'll stand by my reasoning. That reasoning has been really tested by events - really based on the lack of impact of players that have come in.

The benefit of the doubt would be because I'm not sure if he'd have made the same decisions had we not already been staring relegation in the face, had we had real money to spend, or had we had time to really research the signings. I'd say we did see an uptick in fight, but when the results that we deserved didn't come, the confidence ebbed away tp such a point that average / below average players are now completely shot, confidence wise.

I'm not expecting many supporters for my cause right now....

I wouldn't lose any sleep if he went either - but the next manager will only be drowned in the same issues.

UTB

 

[puppet]

To be fair to the club here, they've only sacked one manager this year. Other than Robson, we've stuck by them.

Personally, I'd give Adams the benefit of the doubt. I wanted him (after SOD) and I'll stand by my reasoning. That reasoning has been really tested by events - really based on the lack of impact of players that have come in.

The benefit of the doubt would be because I'm not sure if he'd have made the same decisions had we not already been staring relegation in the face, had we had real money to spend, or had we had time to really research the signings. I'd say we did see an uptick in fight, but when the results that we deserved didn't come, the confidence ebbed away tp such a point that average / below average players are now completely shot, confidence wise.

I'm not expecting many supporters for my cause right now....

I wouldn't lose any sleep if he went either - but the next manager will only be drowned in the same issues.

UTB

on yesterday's reckonings, adams is WAY out of his depth. we've made the wrogn appointment though we're stuck with it unfortunately. god only knows what is going through the minds of the board of directors etc to have let things get to this state.

if its true that one minute we're bleating about keeping beattie, kenny etc... then pay out vast sums to the likes of montgomery and henderson, then thats majorly bad financial mismanagement but surely, if the remit is to continually slash the wage bill then why would the men in power sanction such wages in the first place? mccabe cant even sing the same hymn from his own hymn shee on that reckoning.
it could of course, just be a load of bollox. im finding it hard to believe we cant compete with the likes of doncaster and barnsley for wages on players like killa and harewood - yet we'll randomly spunk out wads of cash on montgomery's new deal, evans supposed wage etc

 

[lenners]

I'm not sure the quality of the squad is really so poor that Adams or any other manager would be powerless.
There are some decent players out there and on paper certainly better than 14 games without a win.

 

[alcoblade]

I'm not sure the quality of the squad is really so poor that Adams or any other manager would be powerless.
There are some decent players out there and on paper certainly better than 14 games without a win.

I agree with that. But for a number of reasons we're now devoid of confidence at it's no longer about Adams, for me.

I suspect he'll resign between now and the end of the season. I'm confident that the next manager, whoever he is, will have lost everyone's confidence within 6 months of that.

UTB

 

[vale87]

He's cost us a lot more than he's cost you lot. At least you might be going into League 1 with MA, we might not be now, with this cunt Gannon in charge. I don't think that Sheffield United will sack MA because they already have had a load of managers (is it 4 in the last 3 seasons??), and it would cost them more.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

He's cost us a lot more than he's cost you lot. At least you might be going into League 1 with MA, we might not be now, with this cunt Gannon in charge. I don't think that Sheffield United will sack MA because they already have had a load of managers (is it 4 in the last 3 seasons??), and it would cost them more.

Yes because going into League 1 with Adams still in charge is such an ideal scenario. You can have him back for all i care, Port Vale is probably his level.