The McCabe Alternatives

[SwissBlade]

A lot of tiresome criticism has been directed at McCabe over the last 4 years. He hasn't done this, he hasn't done that or he's done this or he's done that. I think its fair to say that these subjects have been done to death on here, everything from Hotels to player sales to team management

The latest is that we apparently didn't do enough in the transfer window and people have pointed the finger at McCabe again telling him to sort it out, I read elsewhere someone saying that he should go if he doesn't sort it out.

It got me thinking. If McCabe turned around and listened to this and just backed out completely, leaving the club to sort itself out, then where would we be? What are the alternatives.

This scenario, assumes the current situation whereby there are no major investors lurking.

McCabe then has two options.

a) Desert the club leaving his money in, but concentrating on his other activities (like Dave Allen did)
b) demand his money (which I would assume he could only do by placing us into Administration)

So come on people, criticism is one thing, but what are the alternatives?

Its probably a case already that McCabe has taken option a to an extent, but these are "his" people, so who else could step into the fray...

Oh and as always, looking at S6 as an example, Dave Allen funded the pigs from his own pocket, but they hounded him out and nearly went to the wall completely because of the division that was between themselves and Allen.

 

[raul]

Be careful what you wish for.

 

[Cool Clint]

Be careful what you wish for.

come on give us more!

 

[sheffielder]

just a quick question before Mic says something.

Why would KM who owns the club put it into administration for money his company owes his company?

 

[SwissBlade]

just a quick question before Mic says something.

Why would KM who owns the club put it into administration for money his company owes his company?

I was struggling with this one, but how else would his company get the money otherwise if he couldn't get investment

 

[Tuns]

A lot of tiresome criticism has been directed at McCabe over the last 4 years. He hasn't done this, he hasn't done that or he's done this or he's done that. I think its fair to say that these subjects have been done to death on here, everything from Hotels to player sales to team management

The latest is that we apparently didn't do enough in the transfer window and people have pointed the finger at McCabe again telling him to sort it out, I read elsewhere someone saying that he should go if he doesn't sort it out.

It got me thinking. If McCabe turned around and listened to this and just backed out completely, leaving the club to sort itself out, then where would we be? What are the alternatives.

This scenario, assumes the current situation whereby there are no major investors lurking.

McCabe then has two options.

a) Desert the club leaving his money in, but concentrating on his other activities (like Dave Allen did)
b) demand his money (which I would assume he could only do by placing us into Administration)

So come on people, criticism is one thing, but what are the alternatives?

Its probably a case already that McCabe has taken option a to an extent, but these are "his" people, so who else could step into the fray...

Oh and as always, looking at S6 as an example, Dave Allen funded the pigs from his own pocket, but they hounded him out and nearly went to the wall completely because of the division that was between themselves and Allen.

Isn't he doing a and b already?

Deserting the club and letting it limp on without leadership or direction - presumably relying on the cyclical nature of football that at some point we will produce some half decent players/ldecent cheap signings and have a promotion/become saleable.

Getting at least some of his money back out through the Tevez payments.

 

[Bramley]

Isn't he doing a and b already?

Deserting the club and letting it limp on without leadership or direction - presumably relying on the cyclical nature of football that at some point we will produce some half decent players/ldecent cheap signings and have a promotion/become saleable.

Getting at least some of his money back out through the Tevez payments.

He's allegedly also getting his money back by charging 10% on the money he's put in. It suits him to keep us stumbling along as he slowly takes his money back out.

 

[sheffielder]

I was struggling with this one, but how else would his company get the money otherwise if he couldn't get investment

How would he get the money out of us if he put himself in administration. Sorry it makes no sense whatsover. Is he going to have to sell players to give himself the money back. Already done that. There is no logic at all considering that he could risk losing the club and property by someone in and paying to get us out of administration for a fraction of our worth

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[Isiah]

As you say Swiss this has been done to death and anyone outside Mr McCabe's inner sanctum can only form opinions based on impressions and guesswork, not fact, but here goes anyway.
First question - does anyone think Mr McCabe has actually lost money on the Blades?
Second question - is he really anything other than a financial speculator in the Blades?
Third question - how much of a contributor to our current plight is he?
Just a starter for 10 as they say, but let's see where the answers to those questions takes us - if anyone still has enough interest in this topic to bother that is.

 

[Rustyblade]

First.

I think you need to define what losing money is. He's put money into the club in the form of loans which are still on the books. He has not taken out any interest accumulated so far but it is, on paper, still there and growing. Whether or not he can ever get it back is another question.

Second.

He has definitely speculated, if not actually in then on the back of the Blades through the connection with property. In so far as the Scarborough group of companies is concerned including the investment in Fradi (always a property deal by the way) the assetts have decreased in value and left McCabe with a cash flow problem which, to the terminally cynical, he could be said to have partly solved by using cash generated from one part of the group to prop up others. It might represent a loss on paper and would definitely be a loss if he were to sell these assetts now but who is to say that, were he to hold onto them, they would not eventually represent a profit in the long term?

Third.

Where, as they say, does the buck stop? He has presided over a period during which we have sunk to such an extent that it can be argued that we are now in a worse position than when he took over. There are a lot of contributory factors to this but during all of it, his was the final say. It was his call. It is his call still. And it is, ultimately, his responsibility.

Of course, First and Second might be complete bollocks and only contribute towards proving once and for all time that I am still ignorant of the exact positioning of fundamental parts of my anatomy, namely my arse and my elbow.

 

[broomhillblade]

He's also getting his money back by charging 10% on the money he's put in. It suits him to keep us stumbling along as he slowly takes his money back out.

Interesting - please substantiate.

 

[beightonblade]

....................McCabe is in a win win position .....has been for some time ! ......... and what about the freehold ?

The bottom line for him just about stays the same ..... no investment lower league... mega investment higher league.... he shud just fook off !

 

[Bramley]

I can't purely conjecture!

 

[dingledog]

....................McCabe is in a win win position .....has been for some time ! ......... and what about the freehold ?

The bottom line for him just about stays the same ..... no investment lower league... mega investment higher league.... he shud just fook off !

And I for one would buy him a single megatrain ticket to London.

He has a lot to answer for, unfortunalty he doesnt appear to be able to tell the truth to the supporters anymore, he treats us with contempt. Bu appointing a 'new' chairman does he really think he can make us think its no longer his responsibility.

I am sure he is a lovely man and loves his kids and grandkids and wife etc, but he has certainly alianated thousands of blades supporters.

 

[Isiah]

Thanks Rusty - good to get a reasoned response.
I agree it is difficult to define but my best stab at whether he has made or lost on the Blades would rely on being able to identify all Blades related activities undertaken by the Scarborough group including property development/improvement ( Bramall Lane, the Hotel etc.) since he took over as Chariman. My gut feel is that he is probably in the black overall.
On the speculation point I don't think you need to be terminally cynical to propose that cash generated by the football side of his interests has provided much needed cash flow to other areas more badly hit by the property slump. I agree that the Fradi venture was all about property and wonder whether he would have been able to secure the deal on the terms he did without presenting his football credentials. Again without more info. it has to be a guess but he doesn't seem to have come out of that particular deal too badly.
Finally, I also believe that his is the ultimate responsibilty for the position the football club is now in and whilst I don't think it reasonable to speculate on all the possible if only permutations, I do think it reasonable that he should take a proportion of the hit and hope that, in the event of any serious investment opportunities surfacing, he does not hold out for repayment of all that is currently listed as "owing" to him by the football club.

 

[broomhillblade]

'The McCabe Alternative' - sounds like a good title for a novel and/or film.

Taking a leaf from the Bourne novels and films we could have:

* The McCabe Identity
* The McCabe Supremacy
* The McCabe Ultimatum
* The McCabe Legacy
* The McCabe Betrayal
* The McCabe Sanction
* The McCabe Deception
* The McCabe Objective

Spooky!

 

[Rattly Noise]

Really though, if McCabe is just in it for the money, wouldn't he make more if we were in the Premier League than in League One? Seriously he doesn't want us to go down, he'll lose money. More than he's lost already. He's gambled and right now we're losing. A couple of lucky breaks and we can be winning again.

 

[alcoblade]

Interesting - please substantiate.

It's in the accounts. He claims it's only paper money and not being charged. Difficult to know what to make of that.

 

[SwissBlade]

Really though, if McCabe is just in it for the money, wouldn't he make more if we were in the Premier League than in League One? Seriously he doesn't want us to go down, he'll lose money. More than he's lost already. He's gambled and right now we're losing. A couple of lucky breaks and we can be winning again.

True and he's also a Blade

 

[Worksop II]

It's in the accounts. He claims it's only paper money and not being charged. Difficult to know what to make of that.

Do you have one of those Large Whiskey Bottles or a Tin where you chuck you spare change ?

This "interest not taken" is McCabes Whiskey Bottle

 

[Blade58]

A lot of tiresome criticism has been directed at McCabe over the last 4 years. He hasn't done this, he hasn't done that or he's done this or he's done that. I think its fair to say that these subjects have been done to death on here, everything from Hotels to player sales to team management

The latest is that we apparently didn't do enough in the transfer window and people have pointed the finger at McCabe again telling him to sort it out, I read elsewhere someone saying that he should go if he doesn't sort it out.

It got me thinking. If McCabe turned around and listened to this and just backed out completely, leaving the club to sort itself out, then where would we be? What are the alternatives.

This scenario, assumes the current situation whereby there are no major investors lurking.

McCabe then has two options.

a) Desert the club leaving his money in, but concentrating on his other activities (like Dave Allen did)
b) demand his money (which I would assume he could only do by placing us into Administration)

So come on people, criticism is one thing, but what are the alternatives?

Its probably a case already that McCabe has taken option a to an extent, but these are "his" people, so who else could step into the fray...

Oh and as always, looking at S6 as an example, Dave Allen funded the pigs from his own pocket, but they hounded him out and nearly went to the wall completely because of the division that was between themselves and Allen.

No more money from KM
The club has to be self financed
TB and Steer to run the football club, enabling him to distance himself from the club
No vision
No apparant business plan, except of course to sell anything that is an asset
Season on season the quality of the squad deteriorates


One could argue that he has already left the club to sort itself out

 

[axel smeets]

I wouldn't believe a word that came out of that man's gob ever again. He came along, did a great job with Warnock turning us around when we could have gone down the same route as the filth from S6.
Then he got billy big time, bringing in Bryan Robson and let him spend more money than we had spent in the prem. That man has strung us all along with the bullshit about 'the Blades way', talking again about no more loan signings.....

Well, what a state we're in. The squad is still packed with loan signings. Why could this be? Is it because we've fucking sold everything of value, and when there's nowt left, all that remains is a League One side?

We Blades didn't ask the world from him, not stupid Abramovich style investment, just a competitive team made up of players that belonged to us. He delivered from 2000-2007, but then thought Bryan Robson was capable of taking us up. Was he on the evo - stick that particular afternoon? BTW while I'm at it, Terry Robinson deserves a lot of the stick for the place we're in now, a fucking cancer he was.

The chairman does not pick the team, play in a red and white shirt, take the penalties or score the goals, but he appoints the men whose job it is to ensure that SUFC remains competitive. In that department, over the last 4 years, he has failed miserably.

 

[puppet]

True and he's also a Blade

nah hes not