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pommpey

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Wow. Plain to see now that although we are as good as relegated (and for us not to be, three or four other clubs need to be performing as bad as us if not worse, for the rest of the season, so good luck with that hope) but the mission now is 'how humiliating can our very quick return to the Championship actually be?'

Tonight we were typically gutless and toothless and played once again like a plucky (but fundamentally shit) Division One side playing against mighty Everton in the cup. That's a plucky Division One side which has jizzed £130m on some pretty substandard acquisitions.

Again - and I think people are starting to understand now - Wilder starts with his 'traditional, tried and tested' 5-3-2 which looking at a lot of people's 'who's gonna start?' line ups, he's done a job on your heads because everyone picks a 5-3-2 (or a 3-5-2 - although we hardly play 3-5-2 these days anyway) It doesn't work and with the slack handful of disappearing options I am baffled now as to why he or Knill feel it essential to revert to 'first principles' now after a quite simply disastrous season of failure and decline. This also after last week losing (ha, did we actually 'lose' anything, in fact?) Lundstram and then shifting Basham into midfield and being more balanced and combative in the middle of the park. Tonight we went back to what we are good at which is watching the opposition take the ball off us (or just simply surrender possession) and pass it round and through a pretty thin and pointless 'engine room'. Starting with Osborn - Ampadu - Burke was just asking for trouble. Burke can't play in that position and the other two are effectively championship class, so asking them to deal with Davies, Siggurdsson, Iwobi and Holgate (and those outside of them) is fucking stupidity personified. Quickly he then puts our top scorer into RCM, then LCM, then ... ooooh, somewhere in and around there and we still spend a lot of time being a practice/training team to play against for Everton. I am surprised Anchelotti didn't get the cones and bibs out. One decent pass and Didsy is a yard offside and nearly scores, Burke does his best to be just 'a nuisance' (because he's not a goalscorer) and that's it. Did Wilder up the ante in the second half to put pressure on Everton? No. Why should he? They weren't under pressure anyway, despite having some key players absent. All they had to do is what they'd done in the first half and play on our shocking lack of belief and confidence and press us into giving the ball up and put some stress on a heartstoppingly woeful Ramsdale. It's pretty formulaic stuff, and all opposition managers have to do - Dyche and Hodgson will do so, is watch, take notes and beat us. There won't be much in their brief that goes beyond:

1. They are shitting themselves every time they get the ball
2. Cover across and mark space. No one moves about much
3. Their midfield is piss weak and is different every game because of this
4. Their goalkeeper is a fucking bus/lorry/four cars and a school playground disaster
5. Just press. You'll get the ball off them
6. Their front two. Don't bother. They wont get the ball much and if they do, and if its McBurnie, it will hit his head and come to us

So, out of ten

Ramsdale 4/10: We need to get Verrips in. As much as we have spent on him, he's not good enough.
Baldock 5/10: His score is brought down by the play around him because as much as he tried to get up that flank, what can you do when there's fucking nothing moving to pass to or cross to?
Basham 6/10: Get's the higher mark because as ever, he seems to be the only player in red as white with any idea how to get forward, retain possession or be creative. And he's a fucking Centre Back. He needs to be in midfield.
Egan 6/10: Put some good stops and blocks in. Another high mark because again, he's playing two people's roles, covering for a fucking woeful:
Robinson C3/10PO: Yep. Protocol Droid. Robotic, slow, not at the game. What the fuck was he doing in the first half when as soon as that ball aimed at DCL was measured up, he drops 2m goalward to play him on - understandable if you haven't the legs to go up against a nimble attacker - but then completely fucking fucks it up and allows a striker such as he a free shot on goal ... with Ramsdale the only thing to beat? Second half he was just a glaring liability. IN fact, why am I giving him '3'? What did he do to earn that?
Stevens 3/10: He is simply struggling ... and for once in his defence, I think it's because of who is on his right hand flank. Like threepeeo.
Burke 5/10: What the tapdancing fuck is he doing staring RCM? Seen Full Metal Jacket? "Basic Military Journalism? Jeeeezuz H Christ, Joker! You gotta be fucking kidding me! What do you think you are, Micky fucking Spillane? You're not a writer ... you're a killer!" Similarly, Burke isn't a RCM. Bogle could be I suppose. I mean, he scored a fucking goal out of nothing last week from that very fucking position. Burke needs to be doing what he does best ... running about a lot and causing mayhem and missing sitters.
Ampadu 1/10: He's played everywhere now except up front and in goal. And today it showed he can't play CM in a three man midfield. At all, in fact. He's more lightweight than Norwood, and less productive. He was simply not even at the standard of the opposition players around him.
Osborn. 3/10: I like this little feller. But not in the PL. He tries, he really does. But he's not good enough.
McGoldrick 6/10: The only player with any guile and talent to try to take some control over our destiny. And what does Wilder do? Subs him for Norwood!
Brewster 2/10: Poor kid.

McBurnie 1/10: Simply fucking piss. At his usual pub football best, diving and bitching, heading the ball to the opposition and missing the best corner Norwood has put in since Egan's goal v Wolves last season. Waste of money.
Norwood 1/10: Dreadful. Mistake after mistake, outplayed and outclassed.
Mousset No Mark. Not sure he touched the fucking ball. That'll be him injured now until March.

Wilder 0/10: Staring to lose patience with CW. He is not helping himself, or us as a set of supporters of his club. He continues to play this way despite every scrap of evidence suggesting we are simply easy to beat doing so, even by weaker teams. He also needs to take into account that a lot of us have been 'chests out' and strutting our stuff for the past few years, and now a lot of us are glad there's a fucking lockdown of sorts on and we don't have to account for this dogshit to our workmates and colleagues. And - for all of you lot who say 'the team are missing the fans' can you imagine the shit a packed BDTBL would heap onto the narrowing shoulders of the players week after week watching this fucking pisswankcuntshit? You've all been there ... every side of the Lane chorusing boos as we succumb weakly like we did under Weir and Adkins. Right now, it's a blessing BDTBL is empty for them if you ask me. I don't think 90 minutes of supporters lifting the players would make any difference and the chants of 'Wilder out!' would have started by now. Also, where he is concerned, the only two things that are keeping him in his job are:

1. The last few seasons and his affinity as a Blade. Any other manager would have been binned long ago.
2. The shit state of that shower of bellends at S6. Imagine if they were in the upper playoffs/autos or even running away with the Championship at the moment? Imagine how you'd feel as a Blade getting turned over every week, likely relegated breaking all humiliating records and the squealers looking like comfortably replacing us as runaway champions?

Unless he has a fucking good think now and makes the changes - tactically, positionally and strategically - then I feel the ice under his feet is becoming desperately thin. His approach to this season has been shit, his signings have been shit and his dealing with this crisis has matched the Tories calamitous dealings with COVID19. Other teams are in a relegation fight and will fight to the end. The only thing we have to fight is our own dismal, humiliating decline.

And for fucks sake, please, no one entertain any comfort we'd 'come back up straight away'. That seemed vaguely likely when we fell out of the PL with Warnock, but with CW and this lot I don't even think we'd beat a Championship side, including that bunch of fuckers from south Barnsley.

pommpey
 
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Totally agree Pomps. I have been a “Wilder has earned the right to try again next season” advocate. However, the harsh reality is that this league is a brutal examination and he simply can’t cut it. So, we give him another season in the Championship and maybe (but I doubt it) we bounce back. So what? He can’t manage at this level. Take nothing away from what he has done from league 1 to the PL but it is clear that he is a clueless broken man. This squad is simply not good enough and he can’t even get them competing now. It was obvious that, at half time, he was setting up for a 0-0 draw - bloody embarrassment. Why McB and not Mousset?
 
What is the point in scribbling down, what I can only assume is alcohol fuelled, negative digs at each and everyone of both the players and management?
We lost to a team that managed to convert the one and only chance of the game. Was piss poor all round tonight but those fuckers are meant to be 2nd best as it stands!
We’re all drained and fed up... of course we are... but this shit just makes it worse!
 
What is the point in scribbling down, what I can only assume is alcohol fuelled, negative digs at each and everyone of both the players and management?
We lost to a team that managed to convert the one and only chance of the game. Was piss poor all round tonight but those fuckers are meant to be 2nd best as it stands!
We’re all drained and fed up... of course we are... but this shit just makes it worse!


Ooooh. Moral high ground alert.

Totally sober, son. If you can give me one positive aspect from today's game you'll have a point. But you can't and you don't.

We lost, again. We're bottom with record breaking effect. And we're likely already relegated. And you can't do anything about it.

Which is why you need to tuck your fucking bottom lip in and face some reality.

pommpey
 
If you can give me one positive aspect from today's game you'll have a point.

The positive thread is really struggling this time but the one I like is that all four corner flags are still intact.

Also you keep missing in Ramsdale's case why does he keep sticking his tongue out and sucking it back in ?
 
Ooooh. Moral high ground alert.

Totally sober, son. If you can give me one positive aspect from today's game you'll have a point. But you can't and you don't.

We lost, again. We're bottom with record breaking effect. And we're likely already relegated. And you can't do anything about it.

Which is why you need to tuck your fucking bottom lip in and face some reality.

pommpey
I’m just saying ‘your take’ would carry more weight if it was subjective and contributed something of substance. But it doesn’t and you don’t!

It’s your bottom lip that’s hanging out... clearly highlighted by that post.
If you can tell me what good that overly critical post has achieved then I’ll take it all back. But you can’t so I won’t.

Like I said... we’re all down in the dumps... but that was a massive overreaction. Both teams were piss poor, it could’ve gone either way, they took their chance we didn’t.
That doesn’t justify the slating. It’s doing no good
 
Pommpey I may not fully agree with all of your original post. But it's had to argue against what you are saying. You definitely make valid points in a interesting way. My view is that the lack of form from Stevens and Fleck compared to last season really hurts us as a team. Add to this Ampadu Robinson Lowe and Brewster having no impact since being signed. It's a bad sign when Didsy is one of our better performers. Mousset is a waste of time and money. McBurnie is an average championship player. Time to assess for next season and bring in a few 22 or 23 year old midfielders that are strong enough and composed enough to pick a pass.
 
What is the point in scribbling down, what I can only assume is alcohol fuelled, negative digs at each and everyone of both the players and management?
We lost to a team that managed to convert the one and only chance of the game. Was piss poor all round tonight but those fuckers are meant to be 2nd best as it stands!
We’re all drained and fed up... of course we are... but this shit just makes it worse!
You’re not allowed to disagree with pommpey he’s a football genius....
 
What is the point in scribbling down, what I can only assume is alcohol fuelled, negative digs at each and everyone of both the players and management?
We lost to a team that managed to convert the one and only chance of the game. Was piss poor all round tonight but those fuckers are meant to be 2nd best as it stands!
We’re all drained and fed up... of course we are... but this shit just makes it worse!
I think I know what's happened here...

You clicked on the wrong site. This is the one where people post their thoughts and opinions about Sheffield United. Your opinions don't have to be the same as other people's, it's a mixed bag really.

If you go back to Google and be a bit more specific about what you want to read then you should be ok.

Try not to cry.
 

I’m just saying ‘your take’ would carry more weight if it was subjective and contributed something of substance. But it doesn’t and you don’t!

But you are criticising 'me', rather than 'my take', aren't you? So as far as subjectivity is concerned, you are firmly hoist by your own petard. I'm not the issue here (well, I am ... to you) and 'my take' is unchallenged. I respect anyone who takes my opinions on, but if you're on here having a shot at me because I exercise my right to an opinion and you're a bit weepy because Sheffield United are a steaming pile of freshly coiled dogshit with matches pushed into it (difficult to deny this) then maybe you need to start your own thread of waaa and boo-hoo and leave me the fuck alone?

It’s your bottom lip that’s hanging out... clearly highlighted by that post.

Not really. We're shit, and we've been shit for some time. If you disagree, let's see your working out. I know you failed to do this, but the challenge is there

If you can tell me what good that overly critical post has achieved then I’ll take it all back. But you can’t so I won’t.

I can, because this is a forum, and it is my opinion, and opinions are like arseholes. You know about about arseholes, don't you? Good.

Like I said... we’re all down in the dumps... but that was a massive overreaction. Both teams were piss poor, it could’ve gone either way, they took their chance we didn’t.
That doesn’t justify the slating. It’s doing no good

Why? D'you think any of the staff and players come on here and give a fat rat's cock what some twat on S24SU thinks? I'd be disappointed if they did.

What exactly should we do now we are several games into the 20-21 season, bottom of the PL, two points, desperately crap goal difference, playing like we don't know where the next set of points are coming from and losing game after game after game? Should we just stay silent? Should we stand outside and clap? Should we just up and down singing Jack Egan's song? Should we pray? What about whupping it out and knocking one off?

FYI, the team and Wilder deserve the slating. They are playing fucking dismally at the oment and their performances should be to you as they are to me, embarrassing.

But let's not be too critical, huh? Between now and May there's plenty of points and plenty of games. We're only eight points from the safe zone and they all have to fuck it up too.

pommpey
 
Your marks are (sadly) pretty accurate and reflect the game I watched, too.
The only difference I had was:
Brewster 0 - young, yes I know! In thirty-odd years of watching the Blades, I can't remember seeing a more passive, pointless display in 75 minutes of football. Nothing positive and a complete passenger who put in very little effort. Sorry, I know it's not all his fault and he'll (hopefully) learn, but wow!
McBurnie 0 (Are we allowed minus figures for being an embarrassing, fucking cheating cunt with the 'Grealish dive' and then grinning about it?) Usual jogging around, jumping under the ball, and feigning effort. I was genuinely distraught when I saw him appear for the second half. He epitomizes how we are perceived at the moment. Just an embarrassment. Get rid.
15 games in, CW can't survive this continuing. Sad, but innevitable.
UTB
 
But you are criticising 'me', rather than 'my take', aren't you? So as far as subjectivity is concerned, you are firmly hoist by your own petard. I'm not the issue here (well, I am ... to you) and 'my take' is unchallenged. I respect anyone who takes my opinions on, but if you're on here having a shot at me because I exercise my right to an opinion and you're a bit weepy because Sheffield United are a steaming pile of freshly coiled dogshit with matches pushed into it (difficult to deny this) then maybe you need to start your own thread of waaa and boo-hoo and leave me the fuck alone?



Not really. We're shit, and we've been shit for some time. If you disagree, let's see your working out. I know you failed to do this, but the challenge is there



I can, because this is a forum, and it is my opinion, and opinions are like arseholes. You know about about arseholes, don't you? Good.



Why? D'you think any of the staff and players come on here and give a fat rat's cock what some twat on S24SU thinks? I'd be disappointed if they did.

What exactly should we do now we are several games into the 20-21 season, bottom of the PL, two points, desperately crap goal difference, playing like we don't know where the next set of points are coming from and losing game after game after game? Should we just stay silent? Should we stand outside and clap? Should we just up and down singing Jack Egan's song? Should we pray? What about whupping it out and knocking one off?

FYI, the team and Wilder deserve the slating. They are playing fucking dismally at the oment and their performances should be to you as they are to me, embarrassing.

But let's not be too critical, huh? Between now and May there's plenty of points and plenty of games. We're only eight points from the safe zone and they all have to fuck it up too.

pommpey
It’s 100% not personal pommpey. I just read your report (like I always do) and just thought it was overly critical on this occasion.

I guess we all deal with what’s happening in our own way.
 
It’s 100% not personal pommpey. I just read your report (like I always do) and just thought it was overly critical on this occasion.

I guess we all deal with what’s happening in our own way.

We do. But like others on here, if you disagree, please disagree. Do it with 'your take' and some evidence. Simply retorting and saying 'ohhh. Don't be harsh' when we've serially been crap and (get this) not won a game for nearly six months is just ridiculous.

I expect them to fucking FIGHT. It's isn't a fight now for survival, it's a fight for the dignity of that black, red and white badge they wear and the club's name and nature.

pommpey
 
A few weeks ago there was a post match interview with Wilder (can't remember which) when he kept looking down and sticking his chin into the zipped-up neck of his jacket. If I was CEO/owner of the club I would have been fuming at his attitude. You could see then that his head had gone.
 
The only thing we are playing for now is pride well some of them are others I'm not so sure.

Ramsdale 5 loses a mark for dropping a cross, no fault for the goal, one save little else to do.
Baldock 6 tries but not much happening around him.
Basham 6 same as Baldock.
Egan 6 made some good tackles did ok against DCL
Robinson 1 fuck me this bloke makes Kean Bryan look decent. Bombscare
Stevens 3 another shit display but look what he is next to little wonder he is nervous and daren't get forrad
Ampadu 1 as weak as non alcoholic lager did fuck all all game
McGoldrick 6 moved to the left then the right and back in the middle never managed to get into the game but had no help at all
Osborn 3 he is a trier but that is it another Nick Montgomery
Norwood 1 fuck me can he get any worse?
Burke 5 pace to burn sadly his brain can't keep up with his feet. His only contribution was keeping the Everton defence a bit deeper.
Brewster 1 One good pass is not good enough, looks like a fish out of water and utterly clueless.
McBurnie 1 was utter shit, a pathetic dive his only real contrbution
Mousset 5 showed why he is our best striker just by his movement pity he can't get fit or last more than 30mins

Wilder 1 He has to change it somehow may as well go 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 play Bogle at RM and get Basham in the middle. Everton playing one man up front and we play 3 CB's FFS get an extra man in midfield or up front.
 
The most depressing thing for me is the attitude that seems to have crept into the club of 'did anyone expect us to beat these' the players, manager and quite a segment of the fanbase seems to have caught it, and it's looking harder to cure than covid

We should expect to beat everyone, realistic? No, but it's called a positive mindset, something we have lost since lockdown, wilder seems to have got into a mentality where his mission is just to avoid us getting tonked. No point stepping on a sporting field of any description if you expect to lose.

By trying to save us from embarrassment, he's walking us into being the biggest premier league embarrassments of all time.
 
Wow. Plain to see now that although we are as good as relegated (and for us not to be, three or four other clubs need to be performing as bad as us if not worse, for the rest of the season, so good luck with that hope) but the mission now is 'how humiliating can our very quick return to the Championship actually be?'

Tonight we were typically gutless and toothless and played once again like a plucky (but fundamentally shit) Division One side playing against mighty Everton in the cup. That's a plucky Division One side which has jizzed £130m on some pretty substandard acquisitions.

Again - and I think people are starting to understand now - Wilder starts with his 'traditional, tried and tested' 5-3-2 which looking at a lot of people's 'who's gonna start?' line ups, he's done a job on your heads because everyone picks a 5-3-2 (or a 3-5-2 - although we hardly play 3-5-2 these days anyway) It doesn't work and with the slack handful of disappearing options I am baffled now as to why he or Knill feel it essential to revert to 'first principles' now after a quite simply disastrous season of failure and decline. This also after last week losing (ha, did we actually 'lose' anything, in fact?) Lundstram and then shifting Basham into midfield and being more balanced and combative in the middle of the park. Tonight we went back to what we are good at which is watching the opposition take the ball off us (or just simply surrender possession) and pass it round and through a pretty thin and pointless 'engine room'. Starting with Osborn - Ampadu - Burke was just asking for trouble. Burke can't play in that position and the other two are effectively championship class, so asking them to deal with Davies, Siggurdsson, Iwobi and Holgate (and those outside of them) is fucking stupidity personified. Quickly he then puts our top scorer into RCM, then LCM, then ... ooooh, somewhere in and around there and we still spend a lot of time being a practice/training team to play against for Everton. I am surprised Anchelotti didn't get the cones and bibs out. One decent pass and Didsy is a yard offside and nearly scores, Burke does his best to be just 'a nuisance' (because he's not a goalscorer) and that's it. Did Wilder up the ante in the second half to put pressure on Everton? No. Why should he? They weren't under pressure anyway, despite having some key players absent. All they had to do is what they'd done in the first half and play on our shocking lack of belief and confidence and press us into giving the ball up and put some stress on a heartstoppingly woeful Ramsdale. It's pretty formulaic stuff, and all opposition managers have to do - Dyche and Hodgson will do so, is watch, take notes and beat us. There won't be much in their brief that goes beyond:

1. They are shitting themselves every time they get the ball
2. Cover across and mark space. No one moves about much
3. Their midfield is piss weak and is different every game because of this
4. Their goalkeeper is a fucking bus/lorry/four cars and a school playground disaster
5. Just press. You'll get the ball off them
6. Their front two. Don't bother. They wont get the ball much and if they do, and if its McBurnie, it will hit his head and come to us

So, out of ten

Ramsdale 4/10: We need to get Verrips in. As much as we have spent on him, he's not good enough.
Baldock 5/10: His score is brought down by the play around him because as much as he tried to get up that flank, what can you do when there's fucking nothing moving to pass to or cross to?
Basham 6/10: Get's the higher mark because as ever, he seems to be the only player in red as white with any idea how to get forward, retain possession or be creative. And he's a fucking Centre Back. He needs to be in midfield.
Egan 6/10: Put some good stops and blocks in. Another high mark because again, he's playing two people's roles, covering for a fucking woeful:
Robinson C3/10PO: Yep. Protocol Droid. Robotic, slow, not at the game. What the fuck was he doing in the first half when as soon as that ball aimed at DCL was measured up, he drops 2m goalward to play him on - understandable if you haven't the legs to go up against a nimble attacker - but then completely fucking fucks it up and allows a striker such as he a free shot on goal ... with Ramsdale the only thing to beat? Second half he was just a glaring liability. IN fact, why am I giving him '3'? What did he do to earn that?
Stevens 3/10: He is simply struggling ... and for once in his defence, I think it's because of who is on his right hand flank. Like threepeeo.
Burke 5/10: What the tapdancing fuck is he doing staring RCM? Seen Full Metal Jacket? "Basic Military Journalism? Jeeeezuz H Christ, Joker! You gotta be fucking kidding me! What do you think you are, Micky fucking Spillane? You're not a writer ... you're a killer!" Similarly, Burke isn't a RCM. Bogle could be I suppose. I mean, he scored a fucking goal out of nothing last week from that very fucking position. Burke needs to be doing what he does best ... running about a lot and causing mayhem and missing sitters.
Ampadu 1/10: He's played everywhere now except up front and in goal. And today it showed he can't play CM in a three man midfield. At all, in fact. He's more lightweight than Norwood, and less productive. He was simply not even at the standard of the opposition players around him.
Osborn. 3/10: I like this little feller. But not in the PL. He tries, he really does. But he's not good enough.
McGoldrick 6/10: The only player with any guile and talent to try to take some control over our destiny. And what does Wilder do? Subs him for Norwood!
Brewster 2/10: Poor kid.

McBurnie 1/10: Simply fucking piss. At his usual pub football best, diving and bitching, heading the ball to the opposition and missing the best corner Norwood has put in since Egan's goal v Wolves last season. Waste of money.
Norwood 1/10: Dreadful. Mistake after mistake, outplayed and outclassed.
Mousset No Mark. Not sure he touched the fucking ball. That'll be him injured now until March.

Wilder 0/10: Staring to lose patience with CW. He is not helping himself, or us as a set of supporters of his club. He continues to play this way despite every scrap of evidence suggesting we are simply easy to beat doing so, even by weaker teams. He also needs to take into account that a lot of us have been 'chests out' and strutting our stuff for the past few years, and now a lot of us are glad there's a fucking lockdown of sorts on and we don't have to account for this dogshit to our workmates and colleagues. And - for all of you lot who say 'the team are missing the fans' can you imagine the shit a packed BDTBL would heap onto the narrowing shoulders of the players week after week watching this fucking pisswankcuntshit? You've all been there ... every side of the Lane chorusing boos as we succumb weakly like we did under Weir and Adkins. Right now, it's a blessing BDTBL is empty for them if you ask me. I don't think 90 minutes of supporters lifting the players would make any difference and the chants of 'Wilder out!' would have started by now. Also, where he is concerned, the only two things that are keeping him in his job are:

1. The last few seasons and his affinity as a Blade. Any other manager would have been binned long ago.
2. The shit state of that shower of bellends at S6. Imagine if they were in the upper playoffs/autos or even running away with the Championship at the moment? Imagine how you'd feel as a Blade getting turned over every week, likely relegated breaking all humiliating records and the squealers looking like comfortably replacing us as runaway champions?

Unless he has a fucking good think now and makes the changes - tactically, positionally and strategically - then I feel the ice under his feet is becoming desperately thin. His approach to this season has been shit, his signings have been shit and his dealing with this crisis has matched the Tories calamitous dealings with COVID19. Other teams are in a relegation fight and will fight to the end. The only thing we have to fight is our own dismal, humiliating decline.

And for fucks sake, please, no one entertain any comfort we'd 'come back up straight away'. That seemed vaguely likely when we fell out of the PL with Warnock, but with CW and this lot I don't even think we'd beat a Championship side, including that bunch of fuckers from south Barnsley.

pommpey
Hard to say this, but I agree with that whole post. absolutely love CW for what he's done, but I'm as unhappy as a blade now as I've ever been. I don't care if you're in L1 or The PL, getting turned over weekly is shit and feels shit.

Like you alluded to, I'm embarrassed at the moment. People are asking me WTF is going on and I can't even be arsed to try and defend it, any of it. Fact is we've spent £130m in two seasons. Maybe we would still be relegated but we should at least have some quality to show for it? Not bulk bought shite!
 
The most depressing thing for me is the attitude that seems to have crept into the club of 'did anyone expect us to beat these' the players, manager and quite a segment of the fanbase seems to have caught it, and it's looking harder to cure than covid

We should expect to beat everyone, realistic? No, but it's called a positive mindset, something we have lost since lockdown, wilder seems to have got into a mentality where his mission is just to avoid us getting tonked. No point stepping on a sporting field of any description if you expect to lose.

By trying to save us from embarrassment, he's walking us into being the biggest premier league embarrassments of all time.
Agreed the way we are approaching games seems to be not to go out and win but to just compete nothing more. All teams have to do is press us and wait for the inevitable defensive mistake. Everton were poor and missing their best players and we gifted them two 1st half chances which they missed or as a contest it would have been all over by half time. The way things are I can't see us winning all season not a chance that we will better Derby's all time low points tally. Depressing times.
 
Good report.

For me the shocking lack of leadership on the pitch is horrendous.

e.g. Stevens swings a lazy left boot at goal and the ball goes high and wide. Stevens shrugs, shakes head, spits and lazily jogs back up pitch.

Not one fucker bawls him out!!!

I can give multiple other examples throughout the game.

Get ready for Bristol Rovers.
 
Wow. Plain to see now that although we are as good as relegated (and for us not to be, three or four other clubs need to be performing as bad as us if not worse, for the rest of the season, so good luck with that hope) but the mission now is 'how humiliating can our very quick return to the Championship actually be?'

Tonight we were typically gutless and toothless and played once again like a plucky (but fundamentally shit) Division One side playing against mighty Everton in the cup. That's a plucky Division One side which has jizzed £130m on some pretty substandard acquisitions.

Again - and I think people are starting to understand now - Wilder starts with his 'traditional, tried and tested' 5-3-2 which looking at a lot of people's 'who's gonna start?' line ups, he's done a job on your heads because everyone picks a 5-3-2 (or a 3-5-2 - although we hardly play 3-5-2 these days anyway) It doesn't work and with the slack handful of disappearing options I am baffled now as to why he or Knill feel it essential to revert to 'first principles' now after a quite simply disastrous season of failure and decline. This also after last week losing (ha, did we actually 'lose' anything, in fact?) Lundstram and then shifting Basham into midfield and being more balanced and combative in the middle of the park. Tonight we went back to what we are good at which is watching the opposition take the ball off us (or just simply surrender possession) and pass it round and through a pretty thin and pointless 'engine room'. Starting with Osborn - Ampadu - Burke was just asking for trouble. Burke can't play in that position and the other two are effectively championship class, so asking them to deal with Davies, Siggurdsson, Iwobi and Holgate (and those outside of them) is fucking stupidity personified. Quickly he then puts our top scorer into RCM, then LCM, then ... ooooh, somewhere in and around there and we still spend a lot of time being a practice/training team to play against for Everton. I am surprised Anchelotti didn't get the cones and bibs out. One decent pass and Didsy is a yard offside and nearly scores, Burke does his best to be just 'a nuisance' (because he's not a goalscorer) and that's it. Did Wilder up the ante in the second half to put pressure on Everton? No. Why should he? They weren't under pressure anyway, despite having some key players absent. All they had to do is what they'd done in the first half and play on our shocking lack of belief and confidence and press us into giving the ball up and put some stress on a heartstoppingly woeful Ramsdale. It's pretty formulaic stuff, and all opposition managers have to do - Dyche and Hodgson will do so, is watch, take notes and beat us. There won't be much in their brief that goes beyond:

1. They are shitting themselves every time they get the ball
2. Cover across and mark space. No one moves about much
3. Their midfield is piss weak and is different every game because of this
4. Their goalkeeper is a fucking bus/lorry/four cars and a school playground disaster
5. Just press. You'll get the ball off them
6. Their front two. Don't bother. They wont get the ball much and if they do, and if its McBurnie, it will hit his head and come to us

So, out of ten

Ramsdale 4/10: We need to get Verrips in. As much as we have spent on him, he's not good enough.
Baldock 5/10: His score is brought down by the play around him because as much as he tried to get up that flank, what can you do when there's fucking nothing moving to pass to or cross to?
Basham 6/10: Get's the higher mark because as ever, he seems to be the only player in red as white with any idea how to get forward, retain possession or be creative. And he's a fucking Centre Back. He needs to be in midfield.
Egan 6/10: Put some good stops and blocks in. Another high mark because again, he's playing two people's roles, covering for a fucking woeful:
Robinson C3/10PO: Yep. Protocol Droid. Robotic, slow, not at the game. What the fuck was he doing in the first half when as soon as that ball aimed at DCL was measured up, he drops 2m goalward to play him on - understandable if you haven't the legs to go up against a nimble attacker - but then completely fucking fucks it up and allows a striker such as he a free shot on goal ... with Ramsdale the only thing to beat? Second half he was just a glaring liability. IN fact, why am I giving him '3'? What did he do to earn that?
Stevens 3/10: He is simply struggling ... and for once in his defence, I think it's because of who is on his right hand flank. Like threepeeo.
Burke 5/10: What the tapdancing fuck is he doing staring RCM? Seen Full Metal Jacket? "Basic Military Journalism? Jeeeezuz H Christ, Joker! You gotta be fucking kidding me! What do you think you are, Micky fucking Spillane? You're not a writer ... you're a killer!" Similarly, Burke isn't a RCM. Bogle could be I suppose. I mean, he scored a fucking goal out of nothing last week from that very fucking position. Burke needs to be doing what he does best ... running about a lot and causing mayhem and missing sitters.
Ampadu 1/10: He's played everywhere now except up front and in goal. And today it showed he can't play CM in a three man midfield. At all, in fact. He's more lightweight than Norwood, and less productive. He was simply not even at the standard of the opposition players around him.
Osborn. 3/10: I like this little feller. But not in the PL. He tries, he really does. But he's not good enough.
McGoldrick 6/10: The only player with any guile and talent to try to take some control over our destiny. And what does Wilder do? Subs him for Norwood!
Brewster 2/10: Poor kid.

McBurnie 1/10: Simply fucking piss. At his usual pub football best, diving and bitching, heading the ball to the opposition and missing the best corner Norwood has put in since Egan's goal v Wolves last season. Waste of money.
Norwood 1/10: Dreadful. Mistake after mistake, outplayed and outclassed.
Mousset No Mark. Not sure he touched the fucking ball. That'll be him injured now until March.

Wilder 0/10: Staring to lose patience with CW. He is not helping himself, or us as a set of supporters of his club. He continues to play this way despite every scrap of evidence suggesting we are simply easy to beat doing so, even by weaker teams. He also needs to take into account that a lot of us have been 'chests out' and strutting our stuff for the past few years, and now a lot of us are glad there's a fucking lockdown of sorts on and we don't have to account for this dogshit to our workmates and colleagues. And - for all of you lot who say 'the team are missing the fans' can you imagine the shit a packed BDTBL would heap onto the narrowing shoulders of the players week after week watching this fucking pisswankcuntshit? You've all been there ... every side of the Lane chorusing boos as we succumb weakly like we did under Weir and Adkins. Right now, it's a blessing BDTBL is empty for them if you ask me. I don't think 90 minutes of supporters lifting the players would make any difference and the chants of 'Wilder out!' would have started by now. Also, where he is concerned, the only two things that are keeping him in his job are:

1. The last few seasons and his affinity as a Blade. Any other manager would have been binned long ago.
2. The shit state of that shower of bellends at S6. Imagine if they were in the upper playoffs/autos or even running away with the Championship at the moment? Imagine how you'd feel as a Blade getting turned over every week, likely relegated breaking all humiliating records and the squealers looking like comfortably replacing us as runaway champions?

Unless he has a fucking good think now and makes the changes - tactically, positionally and strategically - then I feel the ice under his feet is becoming desperately thin. His approach to this season has been shit, his signings have been shit and his dealing with this crisis has matched the Tories calamitous dealings with COVID19. Other teams are in a relegation fight and will fight to the end. The only thing we have to fight is our own dismal, humiliating decline.

And for fucks sake, please, no one entertain any comfort we'd 'come back up straight away'. That seemed vaguely likely when we fell out of the PL with Warnock, but with CW and this lot I don't even think we'd beat a Championship side, including that bunch of fuckers from south Barnsley.

pommpey

Can't disagree with much pomps. I am in agreement with you on the formation and Bash being in midfield, but my question is, will we be any better in a 4-4-2 or 4-3-2-1?

We can't pass our way out of a press, we can't create enough chances, would a change of formation really matter?
 

Have a like. I love the sentiment, and lots of good points in there.

Including this word

fucking pisswankcuntshit

Genius.

😂😂😂😂😂😄
 

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