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The players chased and harried and 'put a shift in'
It's just that their limitations are there for all to see.
Whether it's Robinson, Norwood, Burke or whoever, we don't have players who are good enough at this level.
Sadly, last season is showing it was a one off.
Even with JOC, we looked dire at the end of last season and it continued into this.
90% of the time, our work rate and commitment can't be questioned, but we lack the quality we need to win games.
I'm proud of what CWAK have achieved since they came in, and despite some questionable transfers, would trust them to continue regardless of the poor performances the players continue to put in. 'We lack that bit of quality' is something we often hear CW say, so he's fully aware of the problem. As are we.
I'm grateful for the effort the players put in, but it would take a remarkable transfer window to turn this around now.
 



If you feel bad think how the players must feel. I know you can blame them but its not good for the career, confidence or mental state to be in this situation. Just wish they would pull themselves out of it. You know they can do better.

We desperately need a crowd even if its 1000. It would have made all the difference today to know the fans are still behind them.
 
That's the thing, I'll never slag a player off if they are not good enough, if that happens it's not their fault they are on the pitch.

Charge of the light brigade comes to mind
At the same time, if Wilder is being told to bring players in on a wage cap of say £35k then his hands are tied.

As much as I understand it’s cheaper to pay wages and no transfer fee for experienced players, it is obviously not the strategy and that comes from the top so the route Wilder has gone down is big fees and low wages. It doesn’t work.
 
If you feel bad think how the players must feel. I know you can blame them but its not good for the career, confidence or mental state to be in this situation. Just wish they would pull themselves out of it. You know they can do better.

We desperately need a crowd even if its 1000. It would have made all the difference today to know the fans are still behind them.
They should feel bad!
They're the one's training every day to play a game we love and would give a bollock for to be able to be in their boots.
They're the one's being paid £20k per week to play football but they're the ones that can't even carry out the basics of the game like pass to one of your own team mates!
 
At the same time, if Wilder is being told to bring players in on a wage cap of say £35k then his hands are tied.

As much as I understand it’s cheaper to pay wages and no transfer fee for experienced players, it is obviously not the strategy and that comes from the top so the route Wilder has gone down is big fees and low wages. It doesn’t work.

Wilder ties his own hands by refusing to look at players beyond Dover.

Subatic from Monaco was available, an experienced keeper who has played at the top level. Him or Ramsdale? Him then use the 18 million elsewhere perhaps

How much is Welbeck on do we think? Would rather we signed him than Brewster then let him go if not a success
 
Wilder ties his own hands by refusing to look at players beyond Dover.

Subatic from Monaco was available, an experienced keeper who has played at the top level. Him or Ramsdale? Him then use the 18 million elsewhere perhaps

How much is Welbeck on do we think? Would rather we signed him than Brewster then let him go if not a success

Welbeck was quoted as being on around £100k a week.

Actually have a look at this

https://www.spotrac.com/epl/brighton-hove-albion/payroll/

says £50k but in 2014 he was on 3.9 million a year.

Now look at our alleged wages for the team

https://www.spotrac.com/epl/sheffield-united-fc/payroll/

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Wilder ties his own hands by refusing to look at players beyond Dover.

How much is Welbeck on do we think? Would rather we signed him than Brewster then let him go if not a success
There’s no proof for your first point. If Wilder found a decent overseas player within his ethos and wage structure I’m sure they’d be signed (Berge).

On the 2nd point, I agree. We’ve gone down the ‘low wages, big fee, young player’ route and we would have spent less/the same on experienced mercenaries who might have kept us up. That strategy can’t all be down to Wilder though, surely. The only reason I can think is that we didn’t want outliers in our wage structure on say £70k a week as it has the potential to piss the existing squad off.
 
There’s no proof for your first point. If Wilder found a decent overseas player within his ethos and wage structure I’m sure they’d be signed (Berge).

On the 2nd point, I agree. We’ve gone down the ‘low wages, big fee, young player’ route and we would have spent less/the same on experienced mercenaries who might have kept us up. That strategy can’t all be down to Wilder though, surely. The only reason I can think is that we didn’t want outliers in our wage structure on say £70k a week as it has the potential to piss the existing squad off.

He said that he's focused on a British squad. His right, but he's been wrong.

Is it that we can't find a decent overseas player within his ethos and wage structure or that we have and refuse to sign them? Both aren't great...

Yeah socialist wage structure for harmony sake... can understand it but not exactly paid off this season.
 



He said that he's focused on a British squad. His right, but he's been wrong.

Is it that we can't find a decent overseas player within his ethos and wage structure or that we have and refuse to sign them? Both aren't great...

Yeah socialist wage structure for harmony sake... can understand it but not exactly paid off this season.
I don’t know and neither do you on the British/overseas issue. It’s nonsense to suggest we don’t look overseas though, we just don’t sign them!
 
We desperately need a crowd even if its 1000. It would have made all the difference today to know the fans are still behind them.
Are the fans still behind them? Reading some of the shit on this forum says otherwise. It's a piss poor run we're on, even embarrassing, but some people need to have a look at themselves. Happy to support when we're in clover but when it turns the knives are out. Some of our fans aren't really fans are they.
 
Are the fans still behind them? Reading some of the shit on this forum says otherwise. It's a piss poor run we're on, even embarrassing, but some people need to have a look at themselves. Happy to support when we're in clover but when it turns the knives are out. Some of our fans aren't really fans are they.

I think if 1000 fans were allowed back in they would be singing and cheering as the majority know that our team responds to the fans being behind them. Its one of the reasons we are where we are. One of the many reasons. Lets face it everything else has failed so far. okay by the 80th minute they might be singing Wilder out but you never know. :)
 
We still don’t sign many from overseas but EVERY CLUB in the PL has an overseas scouting network. It’s impossible not to.

Do we? (not attacking you here)

Apart from JVW I don't see us having anyone employed in that position
 
Bereft of belief
You can sense as we hit the last 20 minutes the fear grips the team
We started gifting silly fouls inviting pressure.
No steady foot on the ball
Need to show some easier passes from a bit more offering a target for a pass.
Simple balls have disappeared from our play.Too often trying 25 30 yard diagonal through their 2 banks of players giving them the ball back too often
 
Do we? (not attacking you here)

Apart from JVW I don't see us having anyone employed in that position
We don’t need to employ people. I don’t think I’m ITK at all but all PL clubs employ the same network of scouts. My mates do it in Eastern Europe for the Blades and a host of other clubs. It’s not their only job but they work in Eastern Europe in football and do scouting, the reports go to all clubs.
 
I think if 1000 fans were allowed back in they would be singing and cheering as the majority know that our team responds to the fans being behind them. Its one of the reasons we are where we are. One of the many reasons. Lets face it everything else has failed so far. okay by the 80th minute they might be singing Wilder out but you never know. :)
That wasn't aimed at you by the way. If you believe that you'd better hope the 1000 isn't made up of the posters on here.
 
I Just want this season over. Barely gained one iota of joy from the team or the performances. It’s been crap.

Wilder said effort and commitment are a given, the bare minimum. But that’s literally all there has been this season, the bare minimum.
 
Are the fans still behind them? Reading some of the shit on this forum says otherwise. It's a piss poor run we're on, even embarrassing, but some people need to have a look at themselves. Happy to support when we're in clover but when it turns the knives are out. Some of our fans aren't really fans are they.
Oh come on! We’ve all been behind CW but the last 9 months have been abject - it transcends loyalty and gratitude for past performance. He’s out of his depth and I’d say that keeping him is just diminishing the record he has created. You’d have to be delusional to keep saying nothing is wrong that he can’t sort out.
 



Oh come on! We’ve all been behind CW but the last 9 months have been abject - it transcends loyalty and gratitude for past performance. He’s out of his depth and I’d say that keeping him is just diminishing the record he has created. You’d have to be delusional to keep saying nothing is wrong that he can’t sort out.
Was he out of his depth last season and the previous 3?
 

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