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It's a numbers game and modern football club owners don't want to see their investments losing money - unfortunately clubs are pretty much just businesses these days, I mean more so than they always have been.

For that reason I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Wilder out by new years if things haven't improved, that's not to say I agree with that.

That being said our position in the table is fair, I can't really argue with it.
 
Football is a ruthless business these days and there is no room for sentiment.

I would like CW to stay and fight for the club but I'm not the guy that has given CW upwards of £100 million.

I do feel it's only fair that questions are asked and although I don't agree with some of those guys who want to see a change of direction. I fully support their right to say it.

This isnt North Korea talk. If you want sanitised discussion then find another forum.
 
Football is a ruthless business these days and there is no room for sentiment.

I would like CW to stay and fight for the club but I'm not the guy that has given CW upwards of £100 million.

I do feel it's only fair that questions are asked and although I don't agree with some of those guys who want to see a change of direction. I fully support their right to say it.

This isnt North Korea talk. If you want sanitised discussion then find another forum.
Yes there is, when your best manager for generations is involved.
 
Football is a ruthless business these days and there is no room for sentiment.

I would like CW to stay and fight for the club but I'm not the guy that has given CW upwards of £100 million.

I do feel it's only fair that questions are asked and although I don't agree with some of those guys who want to see a change of direction. I fully support their right to say it.

This isnt North Korea talk. If you want sanitised discussion then find another forum.
I agree, everyone has their right to an opinion. It would be good if a few of the ‘Wilder Out’ camp would stick their heads above the parapet and come forward with a sensible suggestion on who could come in and do a better job with the resources available. All to see easy to stand on the sidelines throwing mud, much more difficult to put forward a plausible alternative. The reaction of some people has been an embarrassment.
 
Yes there is, when your best manager for generations is involved.

I agree that he has alot of credit in the bank. So he will get considerably longer to turn things around than any other manager has in years.

FWIW I think that CW would probably choose to resign before PA fired him.
 
I agree that he has alot of credit in the bank. So he will get considerably longer to turn things around than any other manager has in years.

FWIW I think that CW would probably choose to resign before PA fired him.
He was quite vocal about never being sacked earlier on sky. That's one way to keep that stat.
 
In my opinion you’re a bit late in the day and haven’t been soppy enough or reminisced about the last few years enough, to get the amount of likes that were available this morning.
 



With the pandemic, people can’t go to work, socialise and some can’t visit their families.

At the end of each week, all people have for entertainment is the football, and people are rightly fucked off with CW since we’ve lost virtually every game. It’s not even entertaining football, it’s wank, we look wank, and he’s changed fuck all.

Either we pick up before Christmas, or give it big Sam until the end of the season.
 
I don’t know what people’s expectations are. Whilst I agree with the sentiment about it being a numbers game. Name a realistic option, if we were daft enough to sack CW, who you think would be able to extract more points in the premier league than we currently have gained.
I want my club to show trust and belief in a management team that have showed that they have what it takes to be a success. The team are struggling for points at the moment but I don’t believe changing track now would serve us well. As I said trust and belief in the vision of where this management team want to take us. There will be ups and downs the club have been too reactionary in the past I hope that the powers that be have the gonads to stick with it this time to ride it the dip.

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I agree that he has alot of credit in the bank. So he will get considerably longer to turn things around than any other manager has in years.

FWIW I think that CW would probably choose to resign before PA fired him.

It's only right that after what Wilder has achieved at the club that he has a lot of credit in the bank. There is no doubt in my mind that had this run been under a new manager he would've been sacked after yesterday (if not earlier).
 
Does Wilder have about 50 accounts on here under different names? 😂😂

We've been a poor attacking team since Christmas and a poor team in general (with a couple of decent showings thrown in) since restart. This is an issue and there are no signs of Wilder addressing it other than "we'll do the same stuff and hope the players do better"

No versatility, no tactical tweaks, no variety, no creativity. Why can't that be questioned? We are currently a worse team than Norwich were (comfortably one of the ten worst top division teams in the last 50 years) despite spending over £100m

At what point do you question the approach of someone who keeps failing but won't adapt? 10 occasions? 20? 30? Never?

Stop getting your knickers in a twist and look at the facts. Wilder needs to get his head out of his arse and adapt his strategy to his available players or he'll probably get fired 🤷‍♂️
 
Does Wilder have about 50 accounts on here under different names? 😂😂

We've been a poor attacking team since Christmas and a poor team in general (with a couple of decent showings thrown in) since restart. This is an issue and there are no signs of Wilder addressing it other than "we'll do the same stuff and hope the players do better"

No versatility, no tactical tweaks, no variety, no creativity. Why can't that be questioned? We are currently a worse team than Norwich were (comfortably one of the ten worst top division teams in the last 50 years) despite spending over £100m

At what point do you question the approach of someone who keeps failing but won't adapt? 10 occasions? 20? 30? Never?

Stop getting your knickers in a twist and look at the facts. Wilder needs to get his head out of his arse and adapt his strategy to his available players or he'll probably get fired 🤷‍♂️
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With the pandemic, people can’t go to work, socialise and some can’t visit their families.

At the end of each week, all people have for entertainment is the football, and people are rightly fucked off with CW since we’ve lost virtually every game. It’s not even entertaining football, it’s wank, we look wank, and he’s changed fuck all.

Either we pick up before Christmas, or give it big Sam until the end of the season.
Change the CW to Gary Monk and it looks like it's come direct from Talkpork . Return to the dark side.
 
I don't want to see Wilder go but I would like to see some signs that he realises what a problem we have and knows what he is going to do about it.
I suspect that something is going on that we don't know about because he looks well out of sorts as well as the team.
 
Does Wilder have about 50 accounts on here under different names? 😂😂

We've been a poor attacking team since Christmas and a poor team in general (with a couple of decent showings thrown in) since restart. This is an issue and there are no signs of Wilder addressing it other than "we'll do the same stuff and hope the players do better"

No versatility, no tactical tweaks, no variety, no creativity. Why can't that be questioned? We are currently a worse team than Norwich were (comfortably one of the ten worst top division teams in the last 50 years) despite spending over £100m

At what point do you question the approach of someone who keeps failing but won't adapt? 10 occasions? 20? 30? Never?

Stop getting your knickers in a twist and look at the facts. Wilder needs to get his head out of his arse and adapt his strategy to his available players or he'll probably get fired 🤷‍♂️

That's the crazy thing for me, it should surely be no surprise that people are questioning Wilder when you look at the facts of our current situation. If there were calls for Wilder to go after 3 defeats I could understand the replys, but Wilder's last 13 matches are worse than under David Weir (W1 D1 L11 vs W1 D2 L10)!

We all care and desperately want Wilder to turn things around, but there will always come a point when his past record means nothing, especially when a record breaking relegation look a very likely possibility.
 
That's the crazy thing for me, it should surely be no surprise that people are questioning Wilder when you look at the facts of our current situation. If there were calls for Wilder to go after 3 defeats I could understand the replys, but Wilder's last 13 matches are worse than under David Weir (W1 D1 L11 vs W1 D2 L10)!

We all care and desperately want Wilder to turn things around, but there will always come a point when his past record means nothing, especially when a record breaking relegation look a very likely possibility.
If he acknowledges that things have ended and that we need to at least attempt new things then keep him and rebuild.

If we continue this insipid nonsense with multiple players out of position or being asked to do things they aren't capable of in the name of 'the syatem' then he'll not make it till the end of the season
 
I’d love it if we actually decided to do things differently and stuck with a manager long term. Like Burnley and Dyche, yes they were relegated, so might we, but the stability allowed them to come back stronger.
 



With the pandemic, people can’t go to work, socialise and some can’t visit their families.

At the end of each week, all people have for entertainment is the football, and people are rightly fucked off with CW since we’ve lost virtually every game. It’s not even entertaining football, it’s wank, we look wank, and he’s changed fuck all.

Either we pick up before Christmas, or give it big Sam until the end of the season.
Big fckin Sam , FFS
 

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