Mickey Adams

[Deleted member 875]

When i first heard his name mooted i wasn't all that keen to be honest, but looking at the facts.

Born and bred Sheffield United, boyhood supporter and still a self-confessed Sheffield United. Never had the opportunity to serve the club he loves, but will understand the club, what its all about, what the supporters want.

Has served his managerial apprenticeship with Fulham and Brighton achieving promotion and being the catalyst for both teams moving up the Divisions. Took a skint Leicester from the Championship to the Premiership at the first attempt.

Has been managing and doing well in his current role by turning an poor Port Vale side in to League Leaders.

Has knowledge of the lower divisions, and should be able to bring in some quality players at cheap prices.

Has the knowledge and experience to pull together an average but underperforming squad of players together and to get the most of them.

Has experience of working under financial pressure and delivering results.

Ticks a lot of boxes for me.

 

[parisblade]

Totally agree Brownie.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

Yep I'm with you Brownie. SOD plays a nice brand of football but when it comes to achievements on paper Micky Adams is well in front.

As I said somewhere else, you cant argue with facts. The credentials are there.....his CV is very good.

 

[Robbie]

Not forgetting his achievements in relegating Brentford and Leicester twice (granted the first one was only partly due to him),

The Leicester side he got promoted, were a very good team and should have been promoted.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

The Leicester side he got promoted, were a very good team and should have been promoted.

Leaving aside the administration side of things which potentially cost a certain team promotion !!

 

[Robbie]

Leaving aside the administration side of things which potentially cost a certain team promotion !!

Well.... whatever we feel about them not being deducted points, the current system that is used of being deducted 10 points, would not have been sufficient to give us that second spot.

 

[Bramley]

He's got a good record, he's a Blade and he'll go over and above to get success here. In the face of adversity I see no better option.

 

[JJ Sefton]

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You can add appearing in a Jennifer Rush video to the list.

 

[lenners]

Don't think Adams would be a disaster but is he the man to stamp a proper footballing culture on the club, from top to bottom?
Can't argue that he wouldn't be up for getting stuck into the job but if it's going to be Battling Blades and the Blades Way again you can guarantee many more fans are off out the door.
It doesn't work long term and it's had its time as United's tired old stereotype.

 

[raul]

You'd have thought our manager at the time would have had something to say on the subject wouldn't you Fleety? And who can forget their exciting left-winger at that time? Jordan something or other.

 

[Robbie]

but if it's going to be Battling Blades and the Blades Way again you can guarantee many more fans are off out the door..

I can see your point on this, but if you class him in the same bracket as NW - then he raised our attendance over double.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

Not forgetting his achievements in relegating Brentford and Leicester twice (granted the first one was only partly due to him),

The Leicester side he got promoted, were a very good team and should have been promoted.

Leicester were as good as down when he took over! Bassett was in charge for the larger part of the season with Adams as no.2, then he got the job as Leicester went down. They bounced back under Adams and then came back after he was allowed to sign such world beaters as Paul Dickov and Lilian Nalis

The side he got promoted wasnt a good side at all. They were a bunch of misfits, many of whom had been there from before.

No one is saying you cant prefer SOD, but whether you like it or not Micky Adams has achieved more. Its in the record books.

 

[super_pig]

>but if you class him in the same bracket as NW
i think that was mainly caused by the decent side we had at the turn of the century.. brown, maccall, tonge.. noddy.. that was a decent passing outfit TBF

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Well.... whatever we feel about them not being deducted points, the current system that is used of being deducted 10 points, would not have been sufficient to give us that second spot.

It's not as simple as just deducting 10 points from their end of season total though, although a transfer ban was applied, they basically went through the season as if nothing had happened. They had a fair few relatively big name players that remained and had they lost points, penalties had been applied, maybe players would have left etc etc

 

[nicknack]

There are lots of managers who do well at one club, but fail afterwards. So if i were appointing, i'd look for a manager who has been successful at more than one club. It's just a safer bet. Not many of the potential candidates fit that bill, SOD included. Mickey Adams does.

 

[lenners]

I can see your point on this, but if you class him in the same bracket as NW - then he raised our attendance over double.

He seems a much nicer bloke than NW and I think success at the Lane would genuinely mean a lot more to him than NW.
But we've got to lay foundations for long term success based on getting away from small-minded Battling Blades bobbins.
From what I've seen of SOD he could do that. Less sure with Adams.
That said, if it's not SOD, Adams looks the best bet.

 

[davidpinder]

We don't need a manager to get us promotion we need one to get us out of a relegation battle and turn results like Barnsley, scunny, donny, watford, coventry etc into wins and draws.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

It's not as simple as just deducting 10 points from their end of season total though, although a transfer ban was applied, they basically went through the season as if nothing had happened. They had a fair few relatively big name players that remained and had they lost points, penalties had been applied, maybe players would have left etc etc

Plus, we were putting out our reserve team in some league games near the end of the season to save players for the cup/play-offs. We wouldn't have done that if we'd been within 2 points of Leicester.

For example our team for the 1-0 Away defeat at Wimbledon:-
Sheff Utd: Kenny, Cas, Murphy, Page, Doane ( Tonge, 59 ) , Javary ( Ndlovu, 84 ) , Rankine, Morrison, Montgomery, Peschisolido, Windass ( Asaba, 84 )
Subs not used: McCall, Kabba,

 

[Robbie]

Leicester were as good as down when he took over! .

Hence it was only partly due to him

They bounced back under Adams and then came back after he was allowed to sign such world beaters as Paul Dickov and Lilian Nalis .

Paul Dickov got 17 league goals that season, (Nalis signed in the summer of 03, when they got promoted)
Brian Deane, Ian Walker, Matty Elliot, Muzzy Izzet, Andrew Impey, Scowcroft, Alan Rogers, Frank Sinclair, Gerry Taggart, we're all part of that promotion winning team, and at that time - it was a good team.

No one is saying you cant prefer SOD, but whether you like it or not Micky Adams has achieved more. Its in the record books.

Adams has achieved more relegations, it's in the record books.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

We don't need a manager to get us promotion we need one to get us out of a relegation battle and turn results like Barnsley, scunny, donny, watford, coventry etc into wins and draws.

Totally agree dp. We cant look long term until we sort this mess out first. Its like an unemployed person with overdue bills saying that they plan to build an extension and hot tub onto their house.

One thing at a time please.

 

[Micalijo]

He seems a much nicer bloke than NW and I think success at the Lane would genuinely mean a lot more to him than NW.
But we've got to lay foundations for long term success based on getting away from small-minded Battling Blades bobbins.
From what I've seen of SOD he could do that. Less sure with Adams.
That said, if it's not SOD, Adams looks the best bet.

The look on Warnock's face when Unsworth notched v Hull is enough to cast very serious doubt on your first comment for me. Just not with you at all on that one.

 

[Bramley]

Pinched from a Vale fan on another board...

Micky only kept his job last season because of a good league cup run??!!!! Give over man. Thats the biggest load of crap ive heard, any Vale fan in their right mind will tell you that.
We dont play hoof ball either, ask so called carpet football experts Crewe who got passed off the park. Ask QPR when we blitzed them 3-1 and passed them silly. Its a myth that a Micky Adams side plays hoof ball. We mix it up quite a lot and can be a very good footballing team on our day but we have a tremendous unit and work ethic.

Micky is seen as "God" at Vale. We love him and would be devastated if he left. He has stated when he joined us though that the ONLY club he would seriously consider would be you lot. So, as a Vale fan i have a very bad feeling he will leave us.

If you do get Micky im sure he will be a success. When he joined us he stated that Port Vale need Micky Adams but Micky Adams needs Port Vale. Hes grasped his chance again and will be a top top manager for years to come.

I hope to god he stays with us because if he doesnt our massive loss will be your massive gain.

and...

Adams has had no money to sign players apart from a few shrewd free transfers. He has turned players who you would have laughed if you were told were professional players into promotion favourites, and one of the worst won player of the season last year! I think he would do well for you, however Im praying that SOD is your man!

Sounds like the man to me.

Come on Birch, get the fella in.

WE ARE BLADES!

 

[SteelCity Blade]

The look on Warnock's face when Unsworth notched v Hull is enough to cast very serious doubt on your first comment for me. Just not with you at all on that one.

He was delighted for himself. He looks after no.1 mic dont be fooled. I'm with len on that one amazingly!

 

[Micalijo]

He was delighted for himself. He looks after no.1 mic dont be fooled. I'm with len on that one amazingly!

Shock horror, family man looking after his family. Totally disagree Steel but fair enough.

Is it really that bad that he wanted a new contract/bonus' etc etc? You can't expect different behavious just because he had childhood ties with the club.

I'm not talking about his personality which might be unpleasant to some but he was buzzing after that game and he was like a fan when that goal went in imo.

 

[lenners]

The look on Warnock's face when Unsworth notched v Hull is enough to cast very serious doubt on your first comment for me. Just not with you at all on that one.

The only thing that mattered to Neil Warnock was Neil Warnock.
He didn't seem so excited about taking United up when he was in the frame to go to Portsmouth half way through the season.
Adams seems a much more genuine bloke to me.

 

[Robbie]

He didn't seem so excited about taking United up when he was in the frame to go to Portsmouth half way through the season.

I can't agree with this, he gets offered the chance to go to Portsmouth, a PL club, reportedly offering over double his wages etc, turns them down and he is still seen in a bad light for it.

 

[Micalijo]

More to point Robbie, he gets lambasted for even thinking about another job, seemingly because he's a Blade and cannot therefore look after his family - ie maximise his earnings. - at the expense of unsettling SUFC

 

[Robbie]

More to point Robbie, he gets lambasted for even thinking about another job, seemingly because he's a Blade and cannot therefore look after his family - ie maximise his earnings. - at the expense of unsettling SUFC

After they'd allowed him to go speak to them anyway.....

 

[SteelCity Blade]

Shock horror, family man looking after his family. Totally disagree Steel but fair enough.

Is it really that bad that he wanted a new contract/bonus' etc etc? You can't expect different behavious just because he had childhood ties with the club.

I'm not talking about his personality which might be unpleasant to some but he was buzzing after that game and he was like a fan when that goal went in imo.

I never said he cant be pleased for himself or look after his family....whatever....but the way he talks about the club now (simply because of his relationship with McCabe) is not what I would see as something that comes from a true Blade. The man has a massive ego and that goal would have meant more to his ego/wallet than it would to any love he has for SUFC.

 

[Micalijo]

The only thing that mattered to Neil Warnock was Neil Warnock.
He didn't seem so excited about taking United up when he was in the frame to go to Portsmouth half way through the season.
Adams seems a much more genuine bloke to me.

Why not talk to someone offering you loads more money?

I really cannot believe this.

Let's pick this up again when the next Utd manager gets us 92 points in the second tier.