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We were really undone by a poor, slow start, which we cannot repay again. As the match progressed I thought we played reasonably well in parts....Berge offers more than Norwood, Ramsdale was at fault for the second....but he will be fine......we NEED that striker.....but I think we all need to keep calm.
 



Yeah it was a crap first half - really worryingly bad at times.

But the second half was a lot better, still not great, but enough to prevent a full meltdown I hope.
 
No need to panic. Starting as we did was v disappointing but Wolves were also very good and we looked better in the second half. We can take some positives from the match in spite of the defeat.
 
When we needed pace and goals the gaffer brought on Goldie and Berge. Cant fathom that.
 
Cannot see how Ramsdale was at fault for the second, looked like 2 defenders collided, but I need to see it again.
 
2 strikers and a creative midfielder (considering Lundstram and Moose situations) . Also lets stick with that diamond we looked half decent with it.
 
Harsh to say Ramsdale was "at fault." I would say half the Prem's keepers stop that, half don't.

Without McGoldrick on the park our football is too direct. We play long balls and they don't stick.
We need our wing backs and our midfielders to be better, to make themselves available, to carry the ball up field, to retain possession in the opposition half.

Baldock is too negative in attack. He doesn't make positive runs, he checks back, he shies away from responsibility. On the occasions where he's forced into doing something you can see why he's not confident. The quality isn't there.

Lundstram - great in transitions and when the field opens up, however - in possession he's careless and his delivery from wide is mostly a waste of time.

When McGoldrick comes onto the park we're a different animal. He tracks the ball, makes himself available for passes, takes it on the turn, progresses us further up the park... this is great, but why are none of our midfielders taking any responsibility for this?

For me, Wilder's wrong if he thinks that bringing in an additional striker (particularly one like Brewster) is the answer.

We need Berge in the middle of the park now. He's our best player and we need him on the ball making those driving runs forward & dictating games.

On the right hand side we need more creativiy. Maybe this means bringing in another midfielder, maybe it means Bogle coming in for Baldock. I'm not sure.

At present, our play is far too one dimensional & too rigid. We need some fluidity. Players moving around, picking up spaces in between lines, mixing it up, not always going wide to work some pre-planned overload (they're becoming more predictable & easy to defend).

If we could afford him, Buendia could be the answer. But I don't think we're in that market. John Swift a cheaper alternative.
 
When we needed pace and goals the gaffer brought on Goldie and Berge. Cant fathom that.

Berge offers quality even though not pace as does McGoldrick. Know what you mean though, I'm sure we'll see more of Burke when he's had more time with us.
 
We were really undone by a poor, slow start, which we cannot repay again. As the match progressed I thought we played reasonably well in parts....Berge offers more than Norwood, Ramsdale was at fault for the second....but he will be fine......we NEED that striker.....but I think we all need to keep calm.
Until Berge came on we looked like a championship side. Billy, mcG, Fleck were rubbish, not up to it :mad:
 
Until Berge came on we looked like a championship side :mad:

I'd say worse than that 1st half, 2nd half more like prem side, but the damage was done - we simply didn't look ready for the season start.

Berge was magnificent for the time he was on - if he had done that for lets say 10 more minutes, he'd have been MoM

Get it sorted Wilder on the training ground.

UTB
 



I understand people saying we need pace and we do need it in the squad but out and out top speed wouldn’t have been the answer tonight as we had a lot of the ball in the final third but we took our time and played short passes to create the opportunity to cross which we did. However often the final ball was not of the required quality in the air apart from Berge’s for Mcburnie. At times we switched this up with low crosses which often didn’t beat the first man but when they did the defender was first to the ball what would’ve helped is an explosive striker whose quick over 5 yards rather than 50 to get across the front of the defender and get something on the ball that’s why I don’t think we saw Burke for example. Hopefully Brewster can be that man for us as it would compliment Mcburnie and how we play but I haven’t seen enough of him to say
 
Why was Ramsdale at fault for the 2nd Saiss got a free header from 8 yards out after JOC shoved Enda
I do think Ramsdale was flat footed, and not on his toes. Other than that I liked what I saw
 
We were excellent second half, but it'll be completely lost by our inability to create good chances from the many good position we picked up, and our dire set pieces. So many times we got behind the back three without creating anything of note. Pace is desperately needed up top or in one of the wide midfield positions.The good thing is an excellent side like Wolves still struggled with our shape second half.
 
We were really undone by a poor, slow start, which we cannot repay again. As the match progressed I thought we played reasonably well in parts....Berge offers more than Norwood, Ramsdale was at fault for the second....but he will be fine......we NEED that striker.....but I think we all need to keep calm.
Apart from not being ready for the kick off,We don’t create enough and the middle of the park is the problem,
 
Harsh to say Ramsdale was "at fault." I would say half the Prem's keepers stop that, half don't.

Without McGoldrick on the park our football is too direct. We play long balls and they don't stick.
We need our wing backs and our midfielders to be better, to make themselves available, to carry the ball up field, to retain possession in the opposition half.

Baldock is too negative in attack. He doesn't make positive runs, he checks back, he shies away from responsibility. On the occasions where he's forced into doing something you can see why he's not confident. The quality isn't there.

Lundstram - great in transitions and when the field opens up, however - in possession he's careless and his delivery from wide is mostly a waste of time.

When McGoldrick comes onto the park we're a different animal. He tracks the ball, makes himself available for passes, takes it on the turn, progresses us further up the park... this is great, but why are none of our midfielders taking any responsibility for this?

For me, Wilder's wrong if he thinks that bringing in an additional striker (particularly one like Brewster) is the answer.

We need Berge in the middle of the park now. He's our best player and we need him on the ball making those driving runs forward & dictating games.

On the right hand side we need more creativiy. Maybe this means bringing in another midfielder, maybe it means Bogle coming in for Baldock. I'm not sure.

At present, our play is far too one dimensional & too rigid. We need some fluidity. Players moving around, picking up spaces in between lines, mixing it up, not always going wide to work some pre-planned overload (they're becoming more predictable & easy to defend).

If we could afford him, Buendia could be the answer. But I don't think we're in that market. John Swift a cheaper alternative.
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McG does make a difference but his passing and decision making tonight was very poor
 
Harsh to say Ramsdale was "at fault." I would say half the Prem's keepers stop that, half don't.

Without McGoldrick on the park our football is too direct. We play long balls and they don't stick.
We need our wing backs and our midfielders to be better, to make themselves available, to carry the ball up field, to retain possession in the opposition half.

Baldock is too negative in attack. He doesn't make positive runs, he checks back, he shies away from responsibility. On the occasions where he's forced into doing something you can see why he's not confident. The quality isn't there.

Lundstram - great in transitions and when the field opens up, however - in possession he's careless and his delivery from wide is mostly a waste of time.

When McGoldrick comes onto the park we're a different animal. He tracks the ball, makes himself available for passes, takes it on the turn, progresses us further up the park... this is great, but why are none of our midfielders taking any responsibility for this?

For me, Wilder's wrong if he thinks that bringing in an additional striker (particularly one like Brewster) is the answer.

We need Berge in the middle of the park now. He's our best player and we need him on the ball making those driving runs forward & dictating games.

On the right hand side we need more creativiy. Maybe this means bringing in another midfielder, maybe it means Bogle coming in for Baldock. I'm not sure.

At present, our play is far too one dimensional & too rigid. We need some fluidity. Players moving around, picking up spaces in between lines, mixing it up, not always going wide to work some pre-planned overload (they're becoming more predictable & easy to defend).

If we could afford him, Buendia could be the answer. But I don't think we're in that market. John Swift a cheaper alternative.
I'm a big fan of Mcgoldrick but thought he was average when he came on.
 
Partially agree. The bigger point I'm making is how do we get our midfield to do what he does? We can't keep relying on him.
Unless we specifically sign that type of player we won't as none play that way. Just as an aside, some of the stick Norwood's getting tonight is ridiculous. His delivery was horrific tonight but he's the only starting midfielder that constantly demands the ball to link up play. His general play was miles in front of Fleck and Lundstram tonight but it appears we need a new boo boy. Berge looked good when he came on.
 
Played a lot better in the second half but i disn't see no improvement from last season which should be our aim. Yes I know it's only the first game and yes it was wolves but we can't expect to get same results as last season with the same team. We lacked goals last term, and I think we might lack a bit less this term unless we get a decent striker who can make or get a goal from nothing. I'm sorry to say but 18mil for a keeper who was in a team that gets relegated baffles me especially when we need it more up front. Id rather take a gamble on another loan keeper or keepers we already had.
 
Apart from not being ready for the kick off,We don’t create enough and the middle of the park is the problem,
I totally agree. Yes we do need more alertness up front, but the problem is further back. Attacking midfield. By the time we get to the final third it’s up against 6/7/8 defenders. Balls whipped in, balls spat out again. We are numerically at a disadvantage in the final third.

Wolves first goal was an object lesson in how to attack. A fast break down the flank, the early ball in, and an even chance of scoring because the striker had room to create a space for himself and wasn’t outnumbered.
 
Not sure what's irked more - the result, the performance in first 25 mins or the amount of bedwetting I've seen.

1 result, first 20 Wolves were sharp, we were not. Felt the same half an hour into Middlesborough a couple of years ago
 



I totally agree. Yes we do need more alertness up front, but the problem is further back. Attacking midfield. By the time we get to the final third it’s up against 6/7/8 defenders. Balls whipped in, balls spat out again. We are numerically at a disadvantage in the final third.

Wolves first goal was an object lesson in how to attack. A fast break down the flank, the early ball in, and an even chance of scoring because the striker had room to create a space for himself and wasn’t outnumbered.
If I were the opposition, I’d be happy with our wingbacks and centre halves delivering our final ball most of the time. We have lost the ability to create centrally.
 

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