Monty loyalty

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Ok, ok, ok I give up. I am bored of this thread and hence am putting it to bed (on my part at least).

This thread was always meant to be taken with a pinch of salt. It was a tongue in cheek dig at Boo Radleys thread which questioned Killgallons commitment to Sheffield United because he was adamant on leaving. Boo argued that Killa was pulling out of tackles etc because his contract was up and he wanted to leave. I thought it was absolute nonsense that Kilgallon was putting in less effort than normal because his contract was up and to demostrate this I started this threat. I used the same perverse logic that Monty was not playing well, not committed retc becuase his contract is also up.

The funny thing is that I am actually a fan of Monty. I think he adds value to the team and can be a real asset when he is paired with the right midfielder. Monty was purely the fall guy and it was done for illustrative purposes. When people started to bite I found it funny and continued. Hence when Monty actually turned down a new contract I couldn't help but bring the issue up again and have a playful dig at Boo. I do not really think that Monty is not committed to United, quite the opposite. The irony is that he is one of the most committed players and hence it made it even more perverse.

It's a shame that I am having to explain this (as most people got it already) but I just wanted to say so (and hence offer explantion as to why I am not replying to posts anymore).

Most people got it on page 1 or 2. Its took you till page 11 to keep justifying the explanation of why you wrote the post, and in all those pages How many times did you repeat why?
Like has been said by many you seem to unable to understand your own posts. Also like said before don't flatter yourself on the fact you think you got lots of people biting,because if you care to check and review you will find you got drawn back in by so many people so many times and still you seem to be unable to explain certain things.
Remember this from page 7, (we are now on page 11).

Ollessendro; said:
Still i'm not really that fussed as this debate is pretty much over. Every other bugger has seen that my inflammatory, tongue in cheek comments for what they are and are no longer biting. Hence I am going to leave it at that. Go ahead and have the last word if you like .......

(And Monty is in conspiracy with myself of course!?)

And you still never explained the last bit
 

Most people got it on page 1 or 2. Its took you till page 11 to keep justifying the explanation of why you wrote the post, and in all those pages How many times did you repeat why?
Like has been said by many you seem to unable to understand your own posts. Also like said before don't flatter yourself on the fact you think you got lots of people biting,because if you care to check and review you will find you got drawn back in by so many people so many times and still you seem to be unable to explain certain things.
Remember this from page 7, (we are now on page 11).

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As i have mentioned in the past this has been one of the best posts i,ve seen but i don't understand why it can't end? I thought it was quite simple and started around the kiila loyalty post but turned out different. In the killa post people questioned his loyalty in not signing a new contract and his quality of play, many people thought he wasn't giving 100% for Sheffield United. This is clearly not the case with monty he always has and always will give 100% for sheffield united but the question i thought that was being asked by olle and rightly so, was the players loyalty in NOT signing a new contract for Sheffield United. Is this because he wants to cash in on a signing on fee to buy a new house? or is it because he will not take a pay cut because he is on premiership wages? There are lots of questions various people will want to ask but i think it is clear that all players aren't 100% loyal to the clubs they are at and if a better offer comes along they will take it because all footballers are grabbers and greedy bastards and Monty is no different. So my answer and conclusion to this post is NO Monty is not loyal just like everybody else.
 
As i have mentioned in the past this has been one of the best posts i,ve seen but i don't understand why it can't end? I thought it was quite simple and started around the kiila loyalty post but turned out different. In the killa post people questioned his loyalty in not signing a new contract and his quality of play, many people thought he wasn't giving 100% for Sheffield United. This is clearly not the case with monty he always has and always will give 100% for sheffield united but the question i thought that was being asked by olle and rightly so, was the players loyalty in NOT signing a new contract for Sheffield United. Is this because he wants to cash in on a signing on fee to buy a new house? or is it because he will not take a pay cut because he is on premiership wages? There are lots of questions various people will want to ask but i think it is clear that all players aren't 100% loyal to the clubs they are at and if a better offer comes along they will take it because all footballers are grabbers and greedy bastards and Monty is no different. So my answer and conclusion to this post is NO Monty is not loyal just like everybody else.

Well put Dave.
you see you summed it up quite well. Olle seems to have lost his own reasoning, not on why he started this thread but how he should respond to people who commented on it. You see he doesn't know whether to laugh at what people said or take what they said seriously. That's his 'get out clause'.
Your point about all players being greedy is a good one. and in this day and age think you are right players maybe aren't loyal to clubs but also are clubs loyal to them?
Recently on this forum someone mentioned the real reason Walker went back to Spurs. Its because SUFC were not paying the bonuses for wins clean sheats etc this was alleged. Now that young man has been with SUFC a number of years and they decided to sell and got a great deal with the loan back. how would any of us feel if the club we grew up loving had treated us like that? So that makes me believe that clubs and players are both to blame for the modern day lack of loyalty.
FB made a good point though that Monty is loyal to the point of playing to the end of his contract and to that end he kept to his word.
 
Well put Dave.
you see you summed it up quite well. Olle seems to have lost his own reasoning, not on why he started this thread but how he should respond to people who commented on it. You see he doesn't know whether to laugh at what people said or take what they said seriously. That's his 'get out clause'.

Remind me to put you down as poster of the year :rolleyes:. 20 odd contributions to this thread and you still haven't added anything witty, intelligent or interesting. Bravo.
 
Remind me to put you down as poster of the year :rolleyes:. 20 odd contributions to this thread and you still haven't added anything witty, intelligent or interesting. Bravo.

Yes that would be your opinion. you wish me to give a tit for tat reply like,
You have:o

So my question to you now is, All the people who gave serious replies you laughed at?
 
Well put Dave.
you see you summed it up quite well. Olle seems to have lost his own reasoning, not on why he started this thread but how he should respond to people who commented on it. You see he doesn't know whether to laugh at what people said or take what they said seriously. That's his 'get out clause'.
Your point about all players being greedy is a good one. and in this day and age think you are right players maybe aren't loyal to clubs but also are clubs loyal to them?
Recently on this forum someone mentioned the real reason Walker went back to Spurs. Its because SUFC were not paying the bonuses for wins clean sheats etc this was alleged. Now that young man has been with SUFC a number of years and they decided to sell and got a great deal with the loan back. how would any of us feel if the club we grew up loving had treated us like that? So that makes me believe that clubs and players are both to blame for the modern day lack of loyalty.
FB made a good point though that Monty is loyal to the point of playing to the end of his contract and to that end he kept to his word.
Lots of questions many people want to ask but we will never find out the truth.
How much has Monty been offered?
Does he just want a change?
Are united not being loyal to him?
Do united not really want him?
lots of questions, we will never get answers
 
Lots of questions many people want to ask but we will never find out the truth.
How much has Monty been offered?
Does he just want a change?
Are united not being loyal to him?
Do united not really want him?
lots of questions, we will never get answers

Right again dave.
So although most peolple agree in general that whichever wide way it is asked Monty is loyal.
Maybe the title of this thread should have been 'Is Monty giving his all for the club when playing'?
 
I'm still chuckling to myself that people are coming out and biting at this late stage. I should really stop posting, but while ever people getting wound up about this I can't help myself.


We should not take your replies seriously then because all this thread was a joke and you strung everyone along?
Your replies were not some thing you personally believed, is that what you are saying?
 
Did anyone hear Keith Edwards after game sunday on radio Sheff? He said the club should sign him up and give him what he wants.
 
The trouble is we have so few players for a solid foundation and he is the only consistant player at the moment. Harper was pathetic on sunday and he is offering nothing at the moment. Williamson is injured too much but if he could get fit, that pairing of Montgomery and Williamson has been best this season.
 
I know how much time the team have invested in monty over the last 18 months. He had his own development programme. His value to us has rocketed. I heard the only stumbling block is over the length of the contract. Monty wants 3 years but I think the club has a maximum 2 years rule in place.
 

Really? Christ no wonder players aren't wanting to stay!

Give him 3 years!
The bit about us only offering him 2 years and him wanting 3 comes from my usual source - the bit about us having a rule in place of no more than 3 yr contracts is my theory.
 
The bit about us only offering him 2 years and him wanting 3 comes from my usual source - the bit about us having a rule in place of no more than 3 yr contracts is my theory.

So as regards above, if that is the case the tongue in cheek thread starter has been proved wrong.
It clearly shows that Monty wants to be loyal to the club he loves working for but they don't want to be loyal to him.
 
So as regards above, if that is the case the tongue in cheek thread starter has been proved wrong.
It clearly shows that Monty wants to be loyal to the club he loves working for but they don't want to be loyal to him.

You are still going on about this???! :rolleyes:

and even after all this time (and a hundred explantions) you still don't get it!!!??? You really are a cad Boo Radley :D:D:D
 
You are still going on about this???! :rolleyes:

and even after all this time (and a hundred explantions) you still don't get it!!!??? You really are a cad Boo Radley :D:D:D

I find it amazing that someone who started a thread then resorts to name calling yet doesn't seem to be able to reply to all posters who have asked questions of him and decides to cry off and call foul when we seem to be getting near the answer.
This has been a good read and discussion and it seems disrespectful of you to try petty points scoring.
 
Lot of discussion in the hendo post about either Middlesborough or QPR Are these just rumours or does anyone know anything solid?
 
Lot of discussion in the hendo post about either Middlesborough or QPR Are these just rumours or does anyone know anything solid?

I mentioned Middlesbrough, but I haven't heard anything. I know they have been interested him in the past, the start of this season in fact, I don't know if they still are. But he does strike me as Strachan's type of player.
 
I mentioned Middlesbrough, but I haven't heard anything. I know they have been interested him in the past, the start of this season in fact, I don't know if they still are. But he does strike me as Strachan's type of player.
I can see where you are coming from with that.
If the one player who has offered so much in terms of consistancy and loyalty and continues to do so this season is allowed to leave then the football club is in deep shit.
 
It'll be symbolic of our current situation if we see Monty leave us. As it will be if Geary leaves, same with Morgan (and there have been rumours).

It's vital that we retain players like this, if we don't our identity will be lost even further. It's been bad enough putting up with endless average loanees. Letting players like Monty go would take the piss.
 
Monty will leave us in the summer I have no doubt about that. I think if Leeds get promoted he will sign for them, if they dont come up he will join Neil at QPR
 
QPR's definately a possibility with Warnock and the amount of money they've got. They'll be a good bet for promotion next season.
 
I'd imagine all of the players mentioned here, as candidates who could be on their way, are all currently earning far more than our self-imposed wage limit. If any of them are to extend their contracts, they will be taking a huge pay-cut and should be commended if they do.
 
I think he would add a different quality to the QPR midfield which they are currently lacking. As good as Leigertwood is as a DM he doesn't seem to have the same work rate and 'battling' qualities posessed by Montgomery.

It will be a shame to see him leave as over the seasons he has contributed a lot to United but unfortunately the club appear to be no longer able to afford to retain his registration.
 
According to most accounts Monty was the best player for united again last night.
When all hope is gone he continues to play to the written ethics of football and give of his best. Those ethics define true professionalism and he is the epitome of those ethics.
 
It'll be symbolic of our current situation if we see Monty leave us. As it will be if Geary leaves, same with Morgan (and there have been rumours).

It's vital that we retain players like this, if we don't our identity will be lost even further. It's been bad enough putting up with endless average loanees. Letting players like Monty go would take the piss.

'Blades way' That term has been used a lot in the last few years, What was that term supposed to mean? Can someone give me a definition of that?
 

I know how much time the team have invested in monty over the last 18 months. He had his own development programme. His value to us has rocketed. I heard the only stumbling block is over the length of the contract. Monty wants 3 years but I think the club has a maximum 2 years rule in place.

And the fact that we've invested thousands of man hours in this chimp yet he still can't control a football means what? Does it mean that we can't get rid because we want a return? That we feel obliged to offer him a contract just because he's stayed "loyay" purely down to the fact that no one else is stupid enough to sign him?

Let the useless twat leave, in fact kick him out the door. We as a club will never progress while we have players of this calibre in the squad.
 

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