Anyone rate Henderson?

[super_pig]

i think he is a good player somewhere underneath.. i think he is as sick of quinns passes toward his neck as anyone else.. that's why he loses interest and starts fighting with centre backs.. in the second half last week when we played ball to feet i thought he looked useful.. it isn't his fault that the team kick the ball up in the air and play like shite when he is playing.. it is because lazy arse players like quinn and monty who think that a football is a hand grenade with the pin out see him as a convenient outlet.. (killa was as bad but he's gone soo..)

 

[LouTheBlade]

i think he is a good player somewhere underneath.. i think he is as sick of quinns passes toward his neck as anyone else.. that's why he loses interest and starts fighting with centre backs.. in the second half last week when we played ball to feet i thought he looked useful.. it isn't his fault that the team kick the ball up in the air and play like shite when he is playing.. it is because lazy arse players like quinn and monty who think that a football is a hand grenade with the pin out see him as a convenient outlet.. (killa was as bad but he's gone soo..)

I'm with superpig on this one. He gets criticism for throwing his arms about and giving as good as he gets with a centre back but what do you expect?! If he's constantly having to control/get to passes that are coming out of the sky he's got to throw his weight about. The first thing a centre half is going to do when he sees a long floating ball is start smashing through the back of him. The service he gets leaves him with little choice.

Once those lumped passes are tossed up the pitch its a battle of strength. I hope Darius plays for us for a long time and maintains his playing style as he wouldnt be as good a player without it. I play with the same aggression and like to see that in centre forwards. Thats my final word on this subject as i'm not persistently debating this with people who can't see the positives.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

I've seen worse in a Blades shirt...much worse!




Mind you I've seen better as well

 

[TonyAgana]

"Henderson reputation worries Ellis

Sheffield United assistant manager Sam Ellis fears Darius Henderson's no-nonsense approach has made him a target among Championship referees.

The Blades' leading scorer was shown a straight red card for apparently elbowing Nottingham Forest's Paul Morgan in Tuesday's 1-0 loss at the City Ground and has subsequently received a three-match ban.

Ellis told the Sheffield Star: "We do feel as if Darius was hard done by. I'm not talking about the incident itself because, like many people, I just didn't see it.

"The ref told the gaffer afterwards that he's been getting 'fed up' with Hendo, which might tell you a little bit about how he approached things.

"Darius has definitely got a reputation, though. There's no doubt about that."

 

[Houso]

Let's be honest, this isn't a thread about Henderson, it's a thread about how far we've slipped in our expectations. In the same way some of you've fallen in love with Monty, you now defend a footballing neanderthal who just about sums up our limitatons. If you like him, and you like his destroying game then good for you, personally I hate it. He isn't victimised by referees, he's so dumb he can't disguise his fouling game, which amounts to a large percentage of what he has to offer.

As was so eloquently aluded to by young Latters earlier, his hold up play isn't good, his mobility is piss poor and his lack of vision is plain to see. He's nothing more than a battering ram, a tactless oaf who gives more stick than he takes, and who fits perfectly into our skill less, talentless, attritional style.

Like I said, if you like Henderson and you like the style of football we play then enjoy it, they do tend to go hand in hand whereas me, I'd rather watch concrete set.

:gallop:

I'm curious Mardee. Isn't one of your favourite Blades Morgan? If so, how are he and Henderson all that different?

They're certainly from the same school if not the same class.

 

[Grecian2000]

I'm curious Mardee. Isn't one of your favourite Blades Morgan? If so, how are he and Henderson all that different?

They're certainly from the same school if not the same class.

Obviously I wouldn't dream of answering for Mary, but I would say the difference is the position they play.
I don't mind bruising CB's whose job is to break up play, if they can pass the ball then all well and good but it isn't a pre-requisite.

I rather like my CF's to be more than battering rams, with a nice turn of speed and the ability to skip past a man and create himself something if the rest of the team aren't laying it on a plate. Don't think Hendo can do this at all.

 

[alcoblade]

Hendo is the perfect example of fans using goals to solely define a forwards worth and lots are doing exactly the same with Ched. Hendo this season seems to have been promoted to almost godlike status because they goals have started to come yet last season he was just shit, total waste of money etc etc.

Fickle, fickle fans.

Bob, I really, really don't get your point. Hendo is far from a super striker - but your obsession with defending Evans is completely puzzling. Has he got photo's of you bending one up the secretary?

He's a striker who doesn't strike. Complicate it in as many ways as you like - he's offering nothing to our cause right now. Seriously, what's your point?

UTB

 

[Big Mart]

I'm curious Mardee. Isn't one of your favourite Blades Morgan? If so, how are he and Henderson all that different?

They're certainly from the same school if not the same class.

Don't have any favourite players mate, I think some of them are average and some are shite, can't think of a single one who's worth paying to watch.

As to Morgan versus Henderson well sorry but Henderson isn't in the same class. Morgan is a limited footaller, but he isn't as dishonest as the other lump. Morgan plays to the level of his abaility and does the stoppers job quite well, plus he looked comfortable in the Prem whereas Henderson has always been the same whether he was playing for us or agains us, shite.

Like I said, if you like watching the stuff being dished up then keep right on singing that type of players praises, personally I find it all very boring.

:gallop:

 

[Houso]

Don't have any favourite players mate, I think some of them are average and some are shite, can't think of a single one who's worth paying to watch.

As to Morgan versus Henderson well sorry but Henderson isn't in the same class. Morgan is a limited footaller, but he isn't as dishonest as the other lump. Morgan plays to the level of his abaility and does the stoppers job quite well, plus he looked comfortable in the Prem whereas Henderson has always been the same whether he was playing for us or agains us, shite.

Like I said, if you like watching the stuff being dished up then keep right on singing that type of players praises, personally I find it all very boring.

:gallop:

In terms of your last paragraph, I'd prefer to blame the organ grinder rather than the monkey.

As for Hendo vs Morgan, you could argue that both do their jobs to the best of their abilities. Morgs stops goals. Hendo scores goals.

Personally, I dislike that argument as it's not as simple as that. Morgs should be praised for organised the team, but he should be criticised for giving away silly fouls and relying on the hoof too much. Hendo should be praised for holding the ball up and putting in effort, but should be criticised for occasional misses and for constant indiscipline.

Fact is, (or more to the point, my belief is), they both suffer from the manager. Blackwell tells Morgs to boot it whenever he has it, and he also tells Hendo to rough for oppo defence up.

Don't get me wrong, I think Morgs is more important than Hendo, but it would be very unfair to let one off for his failings, and lynch the other for very similar crimes.

 

[Latters]

In terms of your last paragraph, I'd prefer to blame the organ grinder rather than the monkey.

As for Hendo vs Morgan, you could argue that both do their jobs to the best of their abilities. Morgs stops goals. Hendo scores goals.

Personally, I dislike that argument as it's not as simple as that. Morgs should be praised for organised the team, but he should be criticised for giving away silly fouls and relying on the hoof too much. Hendo should be praised for holding the ball up and putting in effort, but should be criticised for occasional misses and for constant indiscipline.

Fact is, (or more to the point, my belief is), they both suffer from the manager. Blackwell tells Morgs to boot it whenever he has it, and he also tells Hendo to rough for oppo defence up.

Don't get me wrong, I think Morgs is more important than Hendo, but it would be very unfair to let one off for his failings, and lynch the other for very similar crimes.

I wouldn't say Morgs is particularly guilty of hoofing it any more often than he needs to. He often takes the ball down and looks for a pass. Just because he's "a rough 'un from Barnsley" may mean he gets perceived as a big boot player with one string to his bow, aggression, but I think he has far more attributes than he's given credit for. Henderson in my opinion, however, not so.

 

[Houso]

I wouldn't say Morgs is particularly guilty of hoofing it any more often than he needs to. He often takes the ball down and looks for a pass. Just because he's "a rough 'un from Barnsley" may mean he gets perceived as a big boot player with one string to his bow, aggression, but I think he has far more attributes than he's given credit for. Henderson in my opinion, however, not so.

You kind of miss my point. I'm a big fan of Morgan and think he's an integral part of the team. But I think he is often guilty of sins due to the manager in the same way that Henderson is.

 

[lenners]

But I'm comparing début seasons; Hendo got 6 goals and was being played every match and wasn't being brought off after 60 mins.

Just wanting a fair comparison.

He wouldn't have been taken off after 60 minutes because he remained worthy of being on the pitch.
That is the fair comparison.
I know you bizarrely cling to your fantasy in the face of all the evidence but trust me Bob, when I told you he was shit after a couple of months he was.
When I tell you he's still shit after six months he's still shit.
The tragedy remains that we have to pay him our top wages, hundreds of thousands of pounds, when we've sold players with ten times his talent.
He embodies a lot that's wrong with football these days. He's probably had around £500,000 out of us so far which is frightening for a club £48m in debt.
I hope he suddenly scores 15 goals between now and the end of the season including a hat-trick at Wembley but he's showing all the signs of turning into our very own version of Francis Jeffers, minus the various sicknotes.

 

[alcoblade]

but he's showing all the signs of turning into our very own version of Francis Jeffers, minus the various sicknotes......

....and plus around £500,000 each year.

UTB

 

[Blade]

i like the way ellis talks of him needing to learn to be more disciplined as if he's a young kid rather than an experienced player who's played for over 10 years at various levels up to the premiership. He hasn't learnt by now and shows no signs of trying to. We should have known what we were getting when we signed him, his disciplinary record has never been good.

The most worrying thing is that Blackwell's tactics rely on him so heavily both in terms of how we attack/kick it at him all game and also in getting him back for defensive duties. It worries me that we rely on a player that is almost certain to miss more games a season through injury or suspension than we can afford. Blackwell has been talking of stability and the ability to put together the same 11 week in week out for nearly 3 months now (seems like years) yet his decisions themselves make that very difficult.